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Post by piglet on May 1, 2024 14:37:12 GMT
GB news was born because the main channels are not balanced, at all. GB news presents both sides of an argument, it takes pains to do so, no matter how ridiculous. Its so sad that the application of common sense now is tagged as right wing.
A symptom of something very bad.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 1, 2024 15:29:23 GMT
Strange, how a small handful of right wing populists accuse our BBC of been biased, yet defend the most politically biased news channel on UK TV. Even more odd when you consider which is the UK's most watched news, and the worlds most trusted, and when you also consider the viewing figures of GB News. I mean their assertions simply dont add up Strange how the only people who claim that the BBC isn't left wing are... The left wing.
Similarly strange how the only people who claim that GB News is right wing populist are... The left wing.
Methinks the left doth protest too much.
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Post by Pacifico on May 1, 2024 16:04:47 GMT
Strange, how a small handful of right wing populists accuse our BBC of been biased, yet defend the most politically biased news channel on UK TV. Even more odd when you consider which is the UK's most watched news, and the worlds most trusted, and when you also consider the viewing figures of GB News. I mean their assertions simply dont add up I was listening to the GB News discussion this afternoon about asylum seekers and the first removal to Rwanda. The entire program including the guests was rubbishing the plan and attacking the Government for stoking up the immigration issue. Who do you think GB News is biased towards?
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Post by sandypine on May 1, 2024 16:48:30 GMT
Strange, how a small handful of right wing populists accuse our BBC of been biased, yet defend the most politically biased news channel on UK TV. Even more odd when you consider which is the UK's most watched news, and the worlds most trusted, and when you also consider the viewing figures of GB News. I mean their assertions simply dont add up They are different entities. The BBC is predicated on informing the populace, accurately and impartially with representation from all sides as required. Religion is given significant air time even when there is no scientific basis for any of their beliefs. The BBC's own statements state clearly what they should be doing "to be a universal public service in the UK that informs, educates and entertains all audiences, and that sustains the UK’s creative economy, culture and democracy." Inform is to pass on particular facts and educate is to give intellectual, moral, and social instruction to (someone), typically at a school or university: Sustain of course means strengthen or support physically or mentally: as regards the UK's culture and democracy I would have thought those are easily defined in broad terms. GB news has no such mission statement as far as I know and its own editorial stance can be anything it wants as long as it gives due impartiality to all aspects of its reporting.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 1, 2024 19:08:16 GMT
Strange, how a small handful of right wing populists accuse our BBC of been biased, yet defend the most politically biased news channel on UK TV. Even more odd when you consider which is the UK's most watched news, and the worlds most trusted, and when you also consider the viewing figures of GB News. I mean their assertions simply dont add up Even stranger how the left can't see the biased BBC bullshit for what it really is.
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Post by witchfinder on May 1, 2024 19:12:59 GMT
The BBC is a publicly funded state broadcaster which HAS TO cater for all sections of society, hence the reason why you find farming and countryside programmes, and the reason why religion / faiths are catered for, and the reason why the BBC carries a lot of public information and community focused output.
GB News is not really a news station, because unlike BBC, SKY or ITN, it is a running commentary on the news with strong opinion, led almost entirely by Tory and ex Tory MPs, the station does not hide its right wing bias, and its evident to anyone who watches it for 5 minutes.
BBC News is the most watched news in the UK, and GB News is the least watched of the British TV news outlets, people want objective news, not a biased view of the world. People want to be informed so that they can make their own minds up, not be brainwashed.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 1, 2024 20:32:35 GMT
...the station does not hide its right wing bias, and its evident to anyone who watches it for 5 minutes... Just as the BBC's left wing bias is patently evident to anyone that's not a rabid lefty.
But back to the plot: If, as you say, GB News does not hide its right wing bias then everyone knows what they're getting: Opinion.
And I don't see a problem with that, after all every media article is offering opinion since they all put their spin on events.
...People want to be informed so that they can make their own minds up, not be brainwashed.
And now you're contradicting yourself: Again if, as you say, GB News does not hide its right wing bias then everyone knows what they're getting is an opinion and therefore they can't possibly be brainwashed.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2024 20:51:26 GMT
...the station does not hide its right wing bias, and its evident to anyone who watches it for 5 minutes... Just as the BBC's left wing bias is patently evident to anyone that's not a rabid lefty.
But back to the plot: If, as you say, GB News does not hide its right wing bias then everyone knows what they're getting: Opinion.
And I don't see a problem with that, after all every media article is offering opinion since they all put their spin on events.
...People want to be informed so that they can make their own minds up, not be brainwashed.
And now you're contradicting yourself: Again if, as you say, GB News does not hide its right wing bias then everyone knows what they're getting is an opinion and therefore they can't possibly be brainwashed. The Left could well be indoctrinated to believe the bullshit they post. Perhaps they convince themselves with their repetition to the point they brainwash themselves. This would explain why they're totally detached from rational objective reasoning.
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Post by Pacifico on May 1, 2024 21:10:47 GMT
The BBC is a publicly funded state broadcaster which HAS TO cater for all sections of society, hence the reason why you find farming and countryside programmes, and the reason why religion / faiths are catered for, and the reason why the BBC carries a lot of public information and community focused output. That does not mean it is unbiased So what is the issue? and the Daily Mail is the most read newspaper - so what is your point?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 2, 2024 6:12:04 GMT
So, in summary: The only people who maintain that the BBC isn't left wing are the lefties.
And lefties get triggered by GB News because it's not left wing.
There, I think that's about it.
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Post by sheepy on May 2, 2024 6:19:01 GMT
Strange, how a small handful of right wing populists accuse our BBC of been biased, yet defend the most politically biased news channel on UK TV. Even more odd when you consider which is the UK's most watched news, and the worlds most trusted, and when you also consider the viewing figures of GB News. I mean their assertions simply dont add up You seem a little mixed up, populists are not Left or Right wing, that is the Westminster party voters, although it doesn't matter what they say they are, they get the same thing anyway.
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Post by witchfinder on May 2, 2024 9:26:50 GMT
My only issue is that I do not accept that the BBC is politically biased, or the utterly ridiculous idea that GB News was created BECAUSE other news broadcasters are biased.
I see the allegations, and I read the accusations, but its just bitterness on the part of people who do not like whats been reported.
Its worth pointing out that as an entity, its actually impossible for the BBC to be biased, as different sections of the BBC are produced, edited and controled by different groups of people. Even different news and current affairs programmes have differing editors and producers.
Conspiracy theories
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 2, 2024 9:31:25 GMT
My only issue is that I do not accept that the BBC is politically biased, or the utterly ridiculous idea that GB News was created BECAUSE other news broadcasters are biased. I see the allegations, and I read the accusations, but its just bitterness on the part of people who do not like whats been reported... Oh the irony!
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 2, 2024 10:01:29 GMT
Channel 4 News is the other totally biased broadcaster. Their News broadcasts are a full party political broadcast by extreme woke idiots. For example on immigration, the broadcaster must include other significant points of view (see Ofcom's rules in the link to this ruling). I happen to know through my extensive research that a significant point of view is send them all back. A lot of people in the UK want mass deportation. Now spot that view on Channel 4. I challenge you to find one person in the last ten years who has given that point of view in an interview. I read it in nearly every string of comments on immigration.
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Post by sandypine on May 2, 2024 10:35:40 GMT
My only issue is that I do not accept that the BBC is politically biased, or the utterly ridiculous idea that GB News was created BECAUSE other news broadcasters are biased. I see the allegations, and I read the accusations, but its just bitterness on the part of people who do not like whats been reported. Its worth pointing out that as an entity, its actually impossible for the BBC to be biased, as different sections of the BBC are produced, edited and controled by different groups of people. Even different news and current affairs programmes have differing editors and producers. Conspiracy theories It is not just possible it is written into their recruitment policies "The purpose of this policy is to facilitate the recruitment of individuals who match the specifications of BBC vacancies, in a way which is fair, cost-effective and reflects the BBC’s commitment to Equality and diversity." Equality and Diversity are political targets and very little to do with talent.
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