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Post by Vinny on Jun 21, 2024 18:08:54 GMT
They're definitely anti Islam, but Islam is not a race.
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Post by sandypine on Jun 21, 2024 19:04:53 GMT
They're definitely anti Islam, but Islam is not a race. That is because Islam works against all the values that Britain First embrace. I had not read much about them and produced by them but looking through their principles, ideology and policies there is not much there I would disagree with, so it is little surprise that no one can find anything that makes them far right, racist or fascist. |
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Post by aristaeus on Jun 22, 2024 20:59:26 GMT
They're definitely anti Islam, but Islam is not a race. That is because Islam works against all the values that Britain First embrace. I had not read much about them and produced by them but looking through their principles, ideology and policies there is not much there I would disagree with, so it is little surprise that no one can find anything that makes them far right, racist or fascist. I've already explained to you how they're fascist. Even if you disagree with that, they're a spin off from the BNP. If you find yourself saying"I don't disagree with their policies", then you need to take a hard look at yourself. But yes, Britain First is definitely fascist, and I don't throw that label around lightly. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 22, 2024 21:18:14 GMT
That is because Islam works against all the values that Britain First embrace. I had not read much about them and produced by them but looking through their principles, ideology and policies there is not much there I would disagree with, so it is little surprise that no one can find anything that makes them far right, racist or fascist. I've already explained to you how they're fascist. Even if you disagree with that, they're a spin off from the BNP. If you find yourself saying"I don't disagree with their policies", then you need to take a hard look at yourself. But yes, Britain First is definitely fascist, and I don't throw that label around lightly. Fascism is a far-right form of government in which most of the country's power is held by one ruler or a small group, under a single party. Fascist governments are usually totalitarian and authoritarian one-party states |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 22, 2024 22:54:49 GMT
That is because Islam works against all the values that Britain First embrace. I had not read much about them and produced by them but looking through their principles, ideology and policies there is not much there I would disagree with, so it is little surprise that no one can find anything that makes them far right, racist or fascist. I've already explained to you how they're fascist. Even if you disagree with that, they're a spin off from the BNP. If you find yourself saying"I don't disagree with their policies", then you need to take a hard look at yourself. But yes, Britain First is definitely fascist, and I don't throw that label around lightly. Well why do you not point out the policies that are both fascist and unacceptable, I have tried to indicate why they do not appear that way to me in the examples you gave. Once again you mention 'history' as somehow defining something in the here and now. That makes Labour anti EU and brings clause 4 back into play, but wait clause 4 was removed so it it no longer plays a part. It seems some parties can move on but others will always have their antecedents cast up. What the BNP said in the 90s is no longer relevant to what Britain First propose. If you do not throw it around lightly put your finger on specifics. Some form of rebirth seems at odds with what Labour have gone through two rebirths in the last few decades. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 26, 2024 17:47:01 GMT
I'm not exactly familiar with Britain First, are they contesting the election? They're not standing in this constituency and as far as I'm aware they never have, yet you would have thought this constituency, a traditionally centre right constituency who are disillusioned with the Tories was the perfect hunting ground for Britain First. Yet not a sniff.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 27, 2024 14:35:03 GMT
I'm not exactly familiar with Britain First, are they contesting the election? They're not standing in this constituency and as far as I'm aware they never have, yet you would have thought this constituency, a traditionally centre right constituency who are disillusioned with the Tories was the perfect hunting ground for Britain First. Yet not a sniff. Nope. hopenothate.org.uk/2024/05/30/britain-first-general-election-2024/ |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 27, 2024 16:18:22 GMT
I'm not exactly familiar with Britain First, are they contesting the election? They're not standing in this constituency and as far as I'm aware they never have, yet you would have thought this constituency, a traditionally centre right constituency who are disillusioned with the Tories was the perfect hunting ground for Britain First. Yet not a sniff. Nope. hopenothate.org.uk/2024/05/30/britain-first-general-election-2024/It seems HnH are crowing over their long campaign against Britain First calling them fascist and racist yet the evidence for that seems singularly lacking. We know they call Reform far right and have active campaigns of hate against many individuals and groups which seems a very specific irony on their own self righteous stance and their mission statement enshrined in their name. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 27, 2024 16:25:11 GMT
Well I posted that for factual info on the participation of Britain First in the election after Redsky's question, rather than the opinion contained in the article.
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Post by sandypine on Jun 27, 2024 18:07:35 GMT
Well I posted that for factual info on the participation of Britain First in the election after Redsky's question, rather than the opinion contained in the article. It was factual information as regards Britain First from the group that have spent as much time effort and money as they can hating Britain First and smearing them as racists and fascists. I know what you were doing and all I was doing was returning to your question in the OP. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 20:12:26 GMT
Well I posted that for factual info on the participation of Britain First in the election after Redsky's question, rather than the opinion contained in the article. It was factual information as regards Britain First from the group that have spent as much time effort and money as they can hating Britain First and smearing them as racists and fascists. I know what you were doing and all I was doing was returning to your question in the OP. Hnh is basically a paid up far-left "charity" that never challenges the establishment and actively smears anyone or anything that isn't a globalist. It's like saying paid up rent-a-mobs who violently attack anyone who challenges the establishment are anti-fascist, when in reality they're operating as fascists. It's quite the magician's trick. |
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