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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 19, 2024 19:37:24 GMT
I always said, one thing that will ensure the survival of trade unions are bad employers. But I was wrong. Thanks to the gig economy and mass immigration there has never been a better time to be a bad employer and even with a Labour government that's not going to change. The reason companies like Amazon, Boo Hoo, Sports Direct etc, make a fortune is not because of the lack of trade union representation, it's because there is a massive glut of low skilled labour in the workplace which keeps shop floor pay down. This is why employers like the aforementioned companies support mass immigration. It is because the dole forces them to apply for these jobs. A firm like that would look pretty damn stupid without any staff. Unfortunately mass immigration will ensure that never happens. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 19, 2024 19:40:46 GMT
I know you are full of nonsense. You don't have to remind me. Write that out and send it to yourself by mail..with a Chinese stamp. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 19, 2024 19:47:59 GMT
Vehicle recovery companies do little to stop breakdowns but the drivers that join are better off when they break down . Unions are not the answer but they are a part of it . I was a member of the ISTC (Iron and Steel Trades Confederation) for two or three years. It folded years ago. I was interested in helping people who needed help, and I spent a lot of time driving around during the evenings to see people, to help form fill and offer advice, and I spoke at industrial tribunals in Birmingham. I quite enjoyed it, but unfortunately the union officers in my opinion, were too militant, they were always looking for a fight and I got bored with it so I moved on. Indeed I’ve had some experiences with unions that made me lose faith but I’ve had some good ones too. I still pay retired subs . Unions made apprenticeships better , protected members , provided collective bargaining and at the same time were corrupt, crawling with reds ( ironically..) , often too militant and seemed more interested in workers collectives in Chile than its members sometimes . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 19, 2024 21:11:26 GMT
It is because the dole forces them to apply for these jobs. A firm like that would look pretty damn stupid without any staff. Unfortunately mass immigration will ensure that never happens. Once upon a time we did not need to force people to get jobs. The government paid the dole and you decided if you wanted to take a job. The job centres were only there is you wanted a job. The reason you would have wanted a job though was the jobs paid a lot more than the dole, although it was perfectly possible to live off the dole if there were no suitable jobs.
I think the reason they have to force people is several factors. The jobs pay less money then they used to, the jobs are shittier, like a lot of people complain of a nasty social environment and bullying at work, and then you have to work with those types from abroad and see their cocky attitudes since they are the untouchable and they know it, and then what you have now is too many manageresses. A lot of people hate manageresses and would much rather a manger, and that counts for women too. Women know what bitches their fellow sex can be, where men are overall fairer. OK I know that is highly un-PC, but that's how we are. Women are micromanagers, and to make matters worse its the bitches that go for the management jobs. The best type of manager in my view is the manager who is so good at the job he is managing people to do that he gains the respect through his expertise. It was like teachers at school. The really smart ones were worth listening to and you could hear a pin drop. The stupid cows could never maintain control.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 19, 2024 21:13:49 GMT
I know you are full of nonsense. You don't have to remind me. Write that out and send it to yourself by mail..with a Chinese stamp. I like China Post. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 19, 2024 21:29:52 GMT
Unfortunately mass immigration will ensure that never happens. Once upon a time we did not need to force people to get jobs. The government paid the dole and you decided if you wanted to take a job. The job centres were only there is you wanted a job. The reason you would have wanted a job though was the jobs paid a lot more than the dole, although it was perfectly possible to live off the dole if there were no suitable jobs.
I think the reason they have to force people is several factors. The jobs pay less money then they used to, the jobs are shittier, like a lot of people complain of a nasty social environment and bullying at work, and then you have to work with those types from abroad and see their cocky attitudes since they are the untouchable and they know it, and then what you have now is too many manageresses. A lot of people hate manageresses and would much rather a manger, and that counts for women too. Women know what bitches their fellow sex can be, where men are overall fairer. OK I know that is highly un-PC, but that's how we are. Women are micromanagers, and to make matters worse its the bitches that go for the management jobs. The best type of manager in my view is the manager who is so good at the job he is managing people to do that he gains the respect through his expertise. It was like teachers at school. The really smart ones were worth listening to and you could hear a pin drop. The stupid cows could never maintain control.
BvL, the days when the government paid dole and people decided whether they wanted the the job or not, was fifty, sixty years ago. And back then the reason people could pick and choose was because there were more jobs than people. As you know, mass immigration has changed all that, today it's the other way around. We now have a huge pool of unskilled/low skilled largely migrant labour in the workplace which for some reason trade unions support and industry loves because it keeps shop floor pay down. And unfortunately thanks to the EU and Blair who was Labours first real champagne socialist, it's not going to change. Anyone who thinks Labour are the working mans party are either clueless or kidding themselves. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 19, 2024 21:30:43 GMT
Write that out and send it to yourself by mail..with a Chinese stamp. I like China Post. Nope. You love it . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 19, 2024 21:47:36 GMT
Once upon a time we did not need to force people to get jobs. The government paid the dole and you decided if you wanted to take a job. The job centres were only there is you wanted a job. The reason you would have wanted a job though was the jobs paid a lot more than the dole, although it was perfectly possible to live off the dole if there were no suitable jobs.
I think the reason they have to force people is several factors. The jobs pay less money then they used to, the jobs are shittier, like a lot of people complain of a nasty social environment and bullying at work, and then you have to work with those types from abroad and see their cocky attitudes since they are the untouchable and they know it, and then what you have now is too many manageresses. A lot of people hate manageresses and would much rather a manger, and that counts for women too. Women know what bitches their fellow sex can be, where men are overall fairer. OK I know that is highly un-PC, but that's how we are. Women are micromanagers, and to make matters worse its the bitches that go for the management jobs. The best type of manager in my view is the manager who is so good at the job he is managing people to do that he gains the respect through his expertise. It was like teachers at school. The really smart ones were worth listening to and you could hear a pin drop. The stupid cows could never maintain control.
BvL, the days when the government paid dole and people decided whether they wanted the the job or not, was fifty, sixty years ago. And back then the reason people could pick and choose was because there were more jobs than people. As you know, mass immigration has changed all that, today it's the other way around. We now have a huge pool of unskilled/low skilled largely migrant labour in the workplace which for some reason trade unions support and industry loves because it keeps shop floor pay down. And unfortunately thanks to the EU and Blair who was Labours first real champagne socialist, it's not going to change. Anyone who thinks Labour are the working mans party are either clueless or kidding themselves. I see our politicians as enemy combatants. They are thieving from us and giving all their mates £200k PA diversity management jobs where they sit in their offices and play with their dicks. Before we were attacked the country was wealthy and owned a lot of stuff. Now it is all sold off to foreign firms. Nothing is owned by us now. Even all the water works are foreign owned. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 19, 2024 21:53:38 GMT
I see our politicians as enemy combatants. They are thieving from us and giving all their mates £200k PA diversity management jobs where they sit in their offices and play with their dicks. Before we were attacked the country was wealthy and owned a lot of stuff. Now it is all sold off to foreign firms. Nothing is owned by us now. Even all the water works are foreign owned. BvL, for some reason you remind me of this chap...  |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 20, 2024 1:45:07 GMT
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 22, 2024 0:19:22 GMT
I've come into contact with 1000s of different companies and the saying is true "if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys".
The main problem I see in the workforce is the over use of agency workers. You should only be able to use agency workers to provide holiday and sick cover. Everybody else should be employed on either a permanent contract or a 6 / 12 month contract. I've worked for several companies that refuse to recruit externally, and will use agency work as an extended job interview.
I'd bet my last pound that people are choosing to go on the sick because the only work they can find is agency work, where you are often treated like shit because the employer knows that if you complain they can just ask for somebody else the next day.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 22, 2024 16:55:50 GMT
That's what's wrong with this country today, a minority of authoritarian lefties are writing the agenda and I'm not talking about Labour I'm talking about the largely unelected political establishment. Anyone who has a less than positive opinion of BLM, woke, net zero, diversity, any minority, rainbow flags, gender ideology etc etc, is accused of hate crimes and shouted down as a far right extremist contrary opinions will not be tolerated, and this is breeding resentment. For the life of me I cant imagine why anyone would think there is not trouble ahead. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 22, 2024 17:19:12 GMT
I've come into contact with 1000s of different companies and the saying is true "if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys". The main problem I see in the workforce is the over use of agency workers. You should only be able to use agency workers to provide holiday and sick cover. Everybody else should be employed on either a permanent contract or a 6 / 12 month contract. I've worked for several companies that refuse to recruit externally, and will use agency work as an extended job interview. I'd bet my last pound that people are choosing to go on the sick because the only work they can find is agency work, where you are often treated like shit because the employer knows that if you complain they can just ask for somebody else the next day. The problem is, thanks to the EU, Blair, and open borders, there are a lot of monkeys in the workplace. I'm not trying to be unkind, but it's true. You mention agency workers and I agree some industries do make far too much use of agency workers, or temps because they're cheap and convenient, and they are in some cases exploited. A quick anecdote; We would sometimes employ temps, before they were allowed onto the power station they would have to complete an eight hour or all day health & safety briefing (Which they were paid for) But sometimes they either struggled with, or couldn't speak English at which point they were escorted off site and the agency was sent a rocket. But the agency would have hundreds of people like this on their books, people who I'll be honest I often felt sorry for, but in my opinion they should not have been in this country in the first place. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 22, 2024 17:36:47 GMT
That's what's wrong with this country today, a minority of authoritarian lefties are writing the agenda and I'm not talking about Labour I'm talking about the largely unelected political establishment. Anyone who has a less than positive opinion of BLM, woke, net zero, diversity, any minority, rainbow flags, gender ideology etc etc, is accused of hate crimes and shouted down as a far right extremist contrary opinions will not be tolerated, and this is breeding resentment. For the life of me I cant imagine why anyone would think there is not trouble ahead. It's a bloody lunatic asylum out there in the corporate world. Have you ever read the crap people post on LinkedIn? It's so ridiculous that people do youtube videos on it to take the piss. |
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