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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 16, 2024 12:12:17 GMT
There's always one, isn't there? Some are content to watch football on the telly, but hidden in amongst the public are these nutters who have these mad ideas.
The first video give a long history lesson first and then it gets down to business. The second video is the point at which we get the first proper tests of the system.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 16, 2024 14:25:04 GMT
How is there enough length in a garage?
Particle accellerators are normally very big.
The one at CERN is enormous!
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Post by oracle75 on Apr 16, 2024 14:42:08 GMT
How is there enough length in a garage? Particle accellerators are normally very big. The one at CERN is enormous! The particles just have to make more round trips ? 😉 |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 16, 2024 14:47:12 GMT
How is there enough length in a garage? Particle accellerators are normally very big. The one at CERN is enormous! It depends on the energy you want from it. If you look at the energies of nuclear reactions they are often plotted on an exponential energy scale due to the vast range. Besides, if you can get this one going I suppose you could progress on and make a longer one if you have the space. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 16, 2024 14:49:29 GMT
How is there enough length in a garage? Particle accellerators are normally very big. The one at CERN is enormous! The particles just have to make more round trips ? 😉 Cyclotrons and synchrotrons are round. This one is known as a linear particle accelerator. The famous one is SLAC (Stanford Linear Accelerator Centre). |
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Post by oracle75 on Apr 16, 2024 14:50:13 GMT
How is there enough length in a garage? Particle accellerators are normally very big. The one at CERN is enormous! It depends on the energy you want from it. If you look at the energies of nuclear reactions they are often plotted on an exponential energy scale due to the vast range. Besides, if you can get this one going I suppose you could progress on and make a longer one if you have the space. Depends if you can rent the garage next door. Do you need planning permission? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 16, 2024 14:59:23 GMT
It depends on the energy you want from it. If you look at the energies of nuclear reactions they are often plotted on an exponential energy scale due to the vast range. Besides, if you can get this one going I suppose you could progress on and make a longer one if you have the space. Depends if you can rent the garage next door. Do you need planning permission? The authorities would probably have a fit if they found out. Mind you sometimes fellow Youtubers can come to the rescue and provide the whatever is needed. I'm sure someone out there owns a warehouse who wouldn't mind a small pipe running around it. |
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Post by oracle75 on Apr 16, 2024 16:26:29 GMT
Depends if you can rent the garage next door. Do you need planning permission? The authorities would probably have a fit if they found out. Mind you sometimes fellow Youtubers can come to the rescue and provide the whatever is needed. I'm sure someone out there owns a warehouse who wouldn't mind a small pipe running around it. I thought you said this demands a linear accelerator.... |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 16, 2024 16:41:33 GMT
The authorities would probably have a fit if they found out. Mind you sometimes fellow Youtubers can come to the rescue and provide the whatever is needed. I'm sure someone out there owns a warehouse who wouldn't mind a small pipe running around it. I thought you said this demands a linear accelerator.... You can do it either way. A circular one is just a linear one bent into a circle. Actually the difficulty is keeping the particles bunched together. What you do on a commercial one is you have regular quadripole magnets and you have to tune them so it is just right. His tube though is shorter than the typical spacing of quadripoles so it can handle that distance without extra complication. |
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Post by oracle75 on Apr 16, 2024 16:43:55 GMT
PHEW. I was getting quite worried that two garages wouldnt be enough.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2024 17:36:15 GMT
How is there enough length in a garage? Particle accellerators are normally very big. The one at CERN is enormous! I have an old vacuum cleaner motor to donate to the cause, if it helps. Might need some new brushes, but it has been accelerating particles for years. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 16, 2024 18:10:10 GMT
PHEW. I was getting quite worried that two garages wouldnt be enough. The way it works is there are regular acceleration gaps, hence the longer it is the more of these gaps to push it faster, but you can also increase the acceleration per gap by using a higher voltage. As he was saying he has two power sources, and in the second video he is just using the smaller one. So before making it any longer he can get the larger power supply operational and that will beef it up. Unfortunately he has not done that video yet.
You can look up the various sub atomic particles so you know the kind of energies you will need to create them. For example the pi meson is fairly common and that clocks in at 140 MeV, so that is the energy of an electron which accelerates in a 140 million volt gap, or divide that number down by the number of gaps. As you can see with this one you will need a larger accelerator, and you have to add all the by-products together to find the total energy. They have specific decay chains according to quantum rules.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 16, 2024 19:26:36 GMT
The really important thing with a particle accelerator is acceleration. The longer the particle accelerator is, the more room there is for particles to accelerate.
It's a bit like a gun barrel. Longer barrels have higher muzzle velocities.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 17, 2024 6:21:42 GMT
It depends on the energy you want from it. If you look at the energies of nuclear reactions they are often plotted on an exponential energy scale due to the vast range. Besides, if you can get this one going I suppose you could progress on and make a longer one if you have the space. Depends if you can rent the garage next door. Do you need planning permission? I imagine all you need do is invite the planning inspector to come take a look and then trip over the 'on' switch and that should sort that out I'm impressed with the whole idea and that's before I take a look at any of the video. The fact that high energy physics is being investigated by a bloke in his garage restores my faith in the ability of the British eccentric to survive and prosper. Honest. You have no idea how invigorated this has made me. A century of oppression against the madcap inventor has been foiled. A young man with a High IQ and a healthy disdain for both Elfin Safety and Planning Hitlers DOES have a place in today's society. Praise The Lord and give us full emergency power across the primary busbars in ten minutes there are atoms that need splitting and subatomic particles that need a kick up the jacksie. Hallelujah |
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Post by oracle75 on Apr 19, 2024 12:06:36 GMT
How is there enough length in a garage? Particle accellerators are normally very big. The one at CERN is enormous! I have an old vacuum cleaner motor to donate to the cause, if it helps. Might need some new brushes, but it has been accelerating particles for years. The problem as I see it is having to line up enough garages down one street and exactly line up the holes necessary on each side of each one to allow particles to pass unencumbered by bicycles, freezers, or boxes of stuff Aunt Maud left you in her will. Could be tricky... |
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