Nemo
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Post by Nemo on Apr 7, 2024 18:31:27 GMT
Channel Four News catches up with her coming out of church
Nadhim Zahawi MP who question her in Parliament say there is a case for a charge of corporate manslaughter
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 8, 2024 10:56:58 GMT
Vennells may be keeping a low profile, but I think she will be expecting a knock on the door from the police at some point. She knows where the bodies are buried and she's not the only one. On her watch the Post Office was in a state of total denial about (and, the evidence suggests, covered-up) its responsibility for hundreds of miscarriages of justice. Vennells and former Chairman of the Post Office Alice Perkins should be in prison.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 8, 2024 13:58:04 GMT
Vennells may be keeping a low profile, but I think she will be expecting a knock on the door from the police at some point. She knows where the bodies are buried and she's not the only one. On her watch the Post Office was in a state of total denial about (and, the evidence suggests, covered-up) its responsibility for hundreds of miscarriages of justice. Vennells and former Chairman of the Post Office Alice Perkins should be in prison. One thing that set of recording does prove is the lawyers who were advising the post office did the correct thing. They can not claim faulty advice with a sneaky passing of the buck trick. Corporate manslaughter requires clear identification of the "controlling mind". This is the legal definition that says one must prove they were the ones whose minds were controlling the corporation. This is where corporate manslaughter cases often fall over. Generally speaking, proving corporate manslaughter for a large corporation is notoriously difficult, but the tapes make that job a great deal easier. |
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Post by wapentake on Apr 8, 2024 16:11:08 GMT
Vennells may be keeping a low profile, but I think she will be expecting a knock on the door from the police at some point. She knows where the bodies are buried and she's not the only one. On her watch the Post Office was in a state of total denial about (and, the evidence suggests, covered-up) its responsibility for hundreds of miscarriages of justice. Vennells and former Chairman of the Post Office Alice Perkins should be in prison. One thing that set of recording does prove is the lawyers who were advising the post office did the correct thing. They can not claim faulty advice with a sneaky passing of the buck trick. Corporate manslaughter requires clear identification of the "controlling mind". This is the legal definition that says one must prove they were the ones whose minds were controlling the corporation. This is where corporate manslaughter cases often fall over. Generally speaking, proving corporate manslaughter for a large corporation is notoriously difficult, but the tapes make that job a great deal easier. What has gone on is an absolute disgrace and the post offices ability to prosecute has made a mockery of British justice,I guess Equivocal has a good handle on the law and whether corporate manslaughter has any chance of being successfully pursued. |
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Post by anthropoz on Apr 8, 2024 19:31:50 GMT
I very much hope that when Labour gets in, something is done to actually speed up the process of getting her behind bars. If anybody is capable of making that happen, it is the former Director of Public Prosecutions. He knows exactly how that system works.
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Post by wapentake on Apr 8, 2024 20:43:02 GMT
I very much hope that when Labour gets in, something is done to actually speed up the process of getting her behind bars. If anybody is capable of making that happen, it is the former Director of Public Prosecutions. He knows exactly how that system works. I wouldn’t bet on it,he like a lot of other politicians washed their hands of any responsibility for what’s gone on,witness Davey who whined “I was lied to” on his term as minister responsible. |
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Post by anthropoz on Apr 8, 2024 21:03:46 GMT
I very much hope that when Labour gets in, something is done to actually speed up the process of getting her behind bars. If anybody is capable of making that happen, it is the former Director of Public Prosecutions. He knows exactly how that system works. I wouldn’t bet on it,he like a lot of other politicians washed their hands of any responsibility for what’s gone on,witness Davey who whined “I was lied to” on his term as minister responsible. I didn't mean he'd accept responsibility for previous mistakes. I mean he'd put pressure on the police to get her prosecuted in order to win brownie points. Or he could promise to bring in new legislation to make it easier to hold people accountable in future. Something has got to change, and be seen to change. Not just because of the misery inflicted on innocent people but because of the mind-boggling amount of public money that has been wasted. Maybe not quite as much as Liz Truss, but almost. |
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Post by wapentake on Apr 8, 2024 21:10:18 GMT
I wouldn’t bet on it,he like a lot of other politicians washed their hands of any responsibility for what’s gone on,witness Davey who whined “I was lied to” on his term as minister responsible. I didn't mean he'd accept responsibility for previous mistakes. I mean he'd put pressure on the police to get her prosecuted in order to win brownie points. Or he could promise to bring in new legislation to make it easier to hold people accountable in future. Something has got to change, and be seen to change. Not just because of the misery inflicted on innocent people but because of the mind-boggling amount of public money that has been wasted. Maybe not quite as much as Liz Truss, but almost. Yes I understood what you meant and the point I was trying to make is that judging by their reactions thus far they will do little. |
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Post by Handyman on Apr 9, 2024 6:19:31 GMT
A Metropolitan Police investigation into the Post Office scandal has been under way since January 2020, but these latest revelations have prompted the calls for police to focus specifically on the BBC report's findings as well.
Asked if the Met would take the fresh evidence into account a spokesperson said: "Well, we've got an inquiry going on - we're not going to get into the specifics of the inquiry".
As and when they have completed their Investigation the CPS will decide what happens after that
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 14, 2024 10:23:29 GMT
Channel Four News catches up with her coming out of church
Nadhim Zahawi MP who question her in Parliament say there is a case for a charge of corporate manslaughter
Corporate Manslaughter?? Of whom ? Those who topped themselves after being found guilty of fiddling the books ? No chance Some form of criminal negligence maybe. Fraud certainly. Manslaughter ? Zahawi's having a laugh |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 14, 2024 12:10:28 GMT
A Metropolitan Police investigation into the Post Office scandal has been under way since January 2020, but these latest revelations have prompted the calls for police to focus specifically on the BBC report's findings as well. Asked if the Met would take the fresh evidence into account a spokesperson said: "Well, we've got an inquiry going on - we're not going to get into the specifics of the inquiry". As and when they have completed their Investigation the CPS will decide what happens after that If I were the CPS I would not give the blighters any clue as to what you were planning on doing. As soon as you do you will find the expert lawyers of the criminals will advise them exactly what to say to sidestep what the CPS had in mind. It is much better to give the blighters a false sense of security so they will drop their foot in it all over the place, then as the CPS you pull together the entire body of evidence to work out which charges will stick, and even whether it is better to prosecute for one thing and keep sone of the other stuff on the back burner which might be helped in the evidence they would be forced to give at some trial. For example if you don't have enough to do corporate manslaughter you might choose to take the easier prosecution path of Health and Safety, and then if the evidence in that comes out to prove corporate manslaughter you then issue that charge. It is generally the way they work. |
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