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Post by jonksy on Apr 8, 2024 9:17:42 GMT
In another thread see 2 casts doubt on my assumption that Britain is by default conservative, well lets measure it. I havent the time, but arnt voting numbers made public. ? Lets say from the 1950s, can anyone total up the numbers, in general elections, how many, in that time to the present, voted conservative and how many labour. I would guess that about a third more vote blue. Tony Blair said that Labour are a party of protest, and thats all there is. Im good at predictions, even when faced with cast iron evidence contrary to the lefts belief, denial and resistance will rule, indeed, those things must function to show socialism has any sort of credibility. Whatever the figures are, someone will question it. And the thing that irks me, finance, that even when faced with constant financial irresposibility when running the country, its explained away as someone elses fault, projection. Mental defence mechanisms are used by the mentally ill because reality is too hard to bear. More people voted for centrist or leftist parties in 2019 than rightist parties. So what's the difference between the left and the so called right these days Andy?
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 8, 2024 10:44:54 GMT
More people voted for centrist or leftist parties in 2019 than rightist parties. So what's the difference between the left and the so called right these days Andy? If they were the same you wouldn't be scared of a Labour government, would you...
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Post by jonksy on Apr 8, 2024 10:54:54 GMT
So what's the difference between the left and the so called right these days Andy? If they were the same you wouldn't be scared of a Labour government, would you... So what's the fuckimg difference Andy? It's not a trick question.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 8, 2024 12:11:24 GMT
They won't invite their mates to be paid billions for PPE?
They won't have parties during a national lockdown?
They won't spend millions on a failed Rwanda scheme?
Won't make unfunded tax cuts at the budget?
Won't appoint sex pests to senior positions?
Won't have six families trying to undermine the party?
Won't create agreements with other countries that undermine our farming industry?
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 8, 2024 12:59:49 GMT
The British are largely Conservative. Unfortunately for Rishi Sunak and Co, many of them will vote Labour I don't think Conservatives that dont vote for Rishi will vote labour , I think Conservatives will vote for anyone but Labour or not at all . It will be interesting to see what Labours actual numbers are rather than their % . I reckon they will win with a slight increase in numbers and large increase in % as the conservative vote falls away . I think Britain is generally middle of the road centralist on most issues , maybe conservative on law and order and immigration and socialist on healthcare and the environment ,the rest of it pretty much down the middle
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 8, 2024 13:22:10 GMT
They won't invite their mates to be paid billions for PPE? No they would have kept it between themselvesThey won't have parties during a national lockdown? Not calling it party doesn't mean its not one They won't spend millions on a failed Rwanda scheme? No they will spend billions on failed NHS computers instead Won't make unfunded tax cuts at the budget? They will increase taxes insteadWon't appoint sex pests to senior positions? Thats good to hear ,what about the backbenches ?Won't have six families trying to undermine the party? Competition has never been a socialist strong pointWon't create agreements with other countries that undermine our farming industry? Yes they will as they rejoin the single market
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 8, 2024 15:19:32 GMT
They won't invite their mates to be paid billions for PPE? They won't have parties during a national lockdown? They won't spend millions on a failed Rwanda scheme? Won't make unfunded tax cuts at the budget? Won't appoint sex pests to senior positions? Won't have six families trying to undermine the party? Won't create agreements with other countries that undermine our farming industry? Well, in wales we leave it to the leaders to have the sex pests. The newly departed thank god first twat Wankford has seen his som, jailed for rape in 2018, recalled to clink for sex offences. The arse in the bay has managed to piss onecand a half billion up the wall on vanity projects And thanks to their dependence on the anti english racists in Plaid it’s not six families pissing on party aims (according to the man who lost out to the corrupt zambian) it’s six plaid AMs And on tbe corruption scale i see Effing Gethin the triumph of colour over competence has had to admit another fifty grand of slush money from dodgy characters has lind his ascent to pole posituin And Starmer said these were the people he looked up to as the way to be. Just pointing out a few home truths.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 8, 2024 17:09:00 GMT
They won't invite their mates to be paid billions for PPE? They won't have parties during a national lockdown? They won't spend millions on a failed Rwanda scheme? Won't make unfunded tax cuts at the budget? Won't appoint sex pests to senior positions? Won't have six families trying to undermine the party? Won't create agreements with other countries that undermine our farming industry? the naivety is staggering...
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