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Post by Totheleft on Apr 4, 2024 3:50:13 GMT
Most GE opioion polls show that reform are slipping away since Anderson joined reform .they Slipped from 15-16%.
Now polling 8-12.5%.
And no seats in H. O.C.
HAHA slip sliding Away
Labour on course to a landslide victory with 400+ seats
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Post by Vinny on Apr 4, 2024 6:38:54 GMT
Reform have ONE seat in the House of Commons.
Meanwhile, Labour are not going to get a 1997 style landslide with a huge popular vote.
No, they're more likely to get a vastly reduced vote from a disenfranchised public.
Reason being, they're shit.
They are COWARDS.
They do not have much in the way of policies at all, because they're afraid of losing votes if they take a position.
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Post by piglet on Apr 4, 2024 9:33:44 GMT
Im voting reform, theres no other choice.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 4, 2024 9:47:44 GMT
Most GE opioion polls show that reform are slipping away since Anderson joined reform .they Slipped from 15-16%. Now polling 8-12.5%. And no seats in H. O.C. HAHA slip sliding Away Labour on course to a landslide victory with 400+ seats And it will be unrelentingly awful for anyone that isn't a criminal, a sponger or a thicko.
And in 5 years, they'll probably get re-elected with a much reduced majority. And 5 years after that they'll get booted out on their arse and the whole sorry cycle will start again.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 4, 2024 9:53:59 GMT
It's history repeating itself, it's just like going through the motions, if nothing else we need a new party to put some life back in to politics, Labour and the Tories have become too complacent at it always being a two horse race.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 4, 2024 11:32:11 GMT
Most GE opioion polls show that reform are slipping away since Anderson joined reform .they Slipped from 15-16%. Now polling 8-12.5%. And no seats in H. O.C. HAHA slip sliding Away Labour on course to a landslide victory with 400+ seats Not according to the data here:
They look like they are levelling off at 12% after a recent rise.
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Post by Handyman on Apr 4, 2024 12:34:02 GMT
Most GE opioion polls show that reform are slipping away since Anderson joined reform .they Slipped from 15-16%. Now polling 8-12.5%. And no seats in H. O.C. HAHA slip sliding Away Labour on course to a landslide victory with 400+ seats And it will be unrelentingly awful for anyone that isn't a criminal, a sponger or a thicko.
And in 5 years, they'll probably get re-elected with a much reduced majority. And 5 years after that they'll get booted out on their arse and the whole sorry cycle will start again.
Sadly yes , I am glad I will not be here to see it happen again |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 4, 2024 13:36:22 GMT
Situation is this.
Reform will take votes from the Tories.
Lib Dems will take votes from Labour.
Any hopes of a Blair like landslide, are quite frankly wistful thinking.
What is most likely is a coalition.
Both Reform and the Lib Dems are opportunistic enough to try and position themselves as Kingmakers and so are the Greens, but they're so away with the fairies they won't get more than one MP.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 4, 2024 13:45:33 GMT
Situation is this. Reform will take votes from the Tories. Lib Dems will take votes from Labour. Any hopes of a Blair like landslide, are quite frankly wistful thinking. What is most likely is a coalition. Both Reform and the Lib Dems are opportunistic enough to try and position themselves as Kingmakers and so are the Greens, but they're so away with the fairies they won't get more than one MP. Reform are going for the white working class vote. That was traditionally Labour territory back in the days of British Leyland & Co.
Tory and Labour are going for the new "middle class" vote. I mean those who are professionally educated with degrees and MScs etc. They are often educated in the social sciences and work as part of the bureaucracy of the state system.
If you don't believe me, it might be worth you listening to Prof Mathew Goodwin.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 4, 2024 14:21:18 GMT
Im voting reform, theres no other choice. Ditto... |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 4, 2024 14:45:19 GMT
Situation is this. Reform will take votes from the Tories. Lib Dems will take votes from Labour. Any hopes of a Blair like landslide, are quite frankly wistful thinking. What is most likely is a coalition. Both Reform and the Lib Dems are opportunistic enough to try and position themselves as Kingmakers and so are the Greens, but they're so away with the fairies they won't get more than one MP. Reform are going for the white working class vote. Absolutely. In 1997, Blair positioned himself as the party of "Mondeo Man" but almost as soon as he'd won, he forgot "Mondeo Man" and went for Mercedes SLK man instead. The working class have been forgotten for decades. We reared our heads in 2016 and almost as soon as we'd spoken, the elitist Europhiles tried to shout us down. The Tories claimed they would listen, and got re elected, but have they listened? Are they prioritising apprenticeships, manufacturing, home grown industry? No. They're still doing nothing about cheap tat from China too.
High time there was a polite revolution.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 4, 2024 14:58:16 GMT
Situation is this. Reform will take votes from the Tories. Lib Dems will take votes from Labour. Any hopes of a Blair like landslide, are quite frankly wistful thinking. What is most likely is a coalition. Both Reform and the Lib Dems are opportunistic enough to try and position themselves as Kingmakers and so are the Greens, but they're so away with the fairies they won't get more than one MP. Reform will get votes, but not seats. They have zero chance of being kingmakers. LibDems are gaining more votes from Tories than they are from Labour. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 4, 2024 15:05:19 GMT
Reform are going for the white working class vote. Absolutely. In 1997, Blair positioned himself as the party of "Mondeo Man" but almost as soon as he'd won, he forgot "Mondeo Man" and went for Mercedes SLK man instead. The working class have been forgotten for decades. We reared our heads in 2016 and almost as soon as we'd spoken, the elitist Europhiles tried to shout us down. The Tories claimed they would listen, and got re elected, but have they listened? Are they prioritising apprenticeships, manufacturing, home grown industry? No. They're still doing nothing about cheap tat from China too.
High time there was a polite revolution.
My capitalist mind says if you are in business and you see some firm undercutting you with cheap tat, you do not attack them, but start thinking of how to produce cheap quality engineering. For example there is a British plastics firm called Wham. It's a trade mark, but it is still a British firm who make a huge range of plastic products. They have only been around for a few years, but why they are expanding is because they play the Chinese at their own game. You can buy a product from them cheaper than you can get it manufactured and imported from China. Not only that but the quality is good as well.
After a bit of digging I found a video of their British factory. There were robots everywhere. It's one of the few British factories which has impressed me regarding the level of technology. Anyhow, that's how one should do it and I'm sure the Chinese respect what they do. Once we have our shit sorted we can start selling the Chinese some British merchandise. They have tons of money to burn in China now and the firms over there selling British products are doing well. So don't hate them. It's a game. Get good at it. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 4, 2024 15:25:25 GMT
My democratic mind says fuck dictatorships.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 4, 2024 15:26:11 GMT
Situation is this. Reform will take votes from the Tories. Lib Dems will take votes from Labour. Any hopes of a Blair like landslide, are quite frankly wistful thinking. What is most likely is a coalition. Both Reform and the Lib Dems are opportunistic enough to try and position themselves as Kingmakers and so are the Greens, but they're so away with the fairies they won't get more than one MP. Reform will get votes, but not seats. They have zero chance of being kingmakers. LibDems are gaining more votes from Tories than they are from Labour. We shall see. We live in interesting times. |
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