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Post by Vinny on Apr 3, 2024 7:16:22 GMT
Putin never negotiated first, he uses force and only goes for diplomatic options if force fails. Peace talks in Belarus didn't start until the 28th of Feb 2022, four days after invasion began and the "two day special operation" to take Kyiv failed. www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-28/ukraine-russia-peace-talks-belarus-border/100869782And those talks failed because news of the Bucha massacre came to light, not because Britain told Ukraine anything. You cannot negotiate with those who want to kill you. Ukraine know this. They stand against genocide. Anyone supporting Putin, promoting his lies, is standing for genocide. Are you listening Kremlinbots? |
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Post by piglet on Apr 3, 2024 10:29:26 GMT
Strangely Macron is the first to show signs of weariness, that normal life cannot continue with a holes like Russia, he has expressed thoughts about nato troops in the Ukraine. Why not go further, put troops in the Ukraine, move nuclear silos to eastern europe, move tanks to the border, not that Britain has any. Long range missiles capable of reaching Moscow, and let it be known throuugh diplomatic channels that we are coming for you. And mean it.
If Putin thinks its bluster he will flick the bird, if he thinks the west will do it, he will do as hes told.
Bully back, Putin only takes what he thinks he can get away with, he is a coward. Tell him to get out of the ukraine and do it now, its not a local situation anymore, the whole world is in crisis. A solution is necessary, if we dont deal with this, these wars will continue into the far future.
Has the west the guts for it?, no. With a government full of wokery, transgender rights, the BBC on a saturday night, addressing grown up stuff is not for them. Im sure we will soon see a prime minister on come dancing in tights, full make up, lipstick, a dress, writhing suuggestive like with another bloke...the deputy prime minister.
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Post by piglet on Apr 3, 2024 10:41:22 GMT
The nuclear showdown will come, its a matter of time, Putin is doing what hes doing because he can, under the threat of nuclear war. If the west fears that, then Russian troops will mass on the French coast, coming for us, its where the west draws the line. Is it the nato borders,? Putin will call that when Russian troops go into Moldova, even Poland.
Will the west, with nuclear annihilation probable defend the west? No.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 3, 2024 10:50:49 GMT
We have to stand up to the bastard, with sufficient strength that he backs down. He's a bully and like all bullies, he's a coward.
Stand up to him and he will back down.
Back down to him and he will push further.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2024 11:09:46 GMT
We have to stand up to the bastard, with sufficient strength that he backs down. He's a bully and like all bullies, he's a coward. Stand up to him and he will back down. Back down to him and he will push further. Putin needs the diplomacy of a Hellfire missile. Israel managed it against the Iranian generals in Damascus. Why can't the mighty USA do the same? - or is taking out world leaders verboten, no matter how evil they are? |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 3, 2024 11:14:25 GMT
Brimstone missiles are better.
Give them thousands.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 3, 2024 11:37:15 GMT
Yes it would be wonderful if the West gave those Ruskies a damn good spanking, showed them who’s boss and brought them back to the fold .
It would all be over by Christmas.
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 3, 2024 12:13:50 GMT
The West is coming to an end, and Putin and Xi know it.
We have vast swathes of people that hate their own country because they have been brainwashed:
1) The re-writing of history so they believe they descend from generations of evil slave owners / colonisers etc.
2) Told they are a victim (because of their sex / class / age / race etc) to disenfranchise them.
3) Told that patriotism = fascism.
This is how civisations end, when citizens are not prepared to fight for what they have.
Russian could literally drop a nuke on Berlin and we would have protests on our streets demanding we don't fire back because "innocent civilians would die"!
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Post by Bentley on Apr 3, 2024 17:24:38 GMT
The UK would give up if the internet was cut off for a week.
I don’t blame anyone for refusing to fight for the UK. I see how the ones that did it last time are despised .
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Post by Vinny on Apr 4, 2024 7:35:48 GMT
Attempts to win votes via the woke demographic fail every time.
Putin isn't in a position to bully us.
It's time to give Ukraine everything it needs to kick his arse.
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 4, 2024 12:49:42 GMT
The UK would give up if the internet was cut off for a week. I don’t blame anyone for refusing to fight for the UK. I see how the ones that did it last time are despised . Some people will always have a go at servicemen. It is to mask their own cowardice. What I am talking about is sources from outside and within creating cracks in society so that they can bring it down. We need to stop teaching all this self-hate bullshit in our schools, and start reminding people how lucky they are to live in the West compared to other parts of the world... before we become like other parts of the world! |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 4, 2024 16:36:39 GMT
The UK would give up if the internet was cut off for a week. I don’t blame anyone for refusing to fight for the UK. I see how the ones that did it last time are despised . Some people will always have a go at servicemen. It is to mask their own cowardice. What I am talking about is sources from outside and within creating cracks in society so that they can bring it down. We need to stop teaching all this self-hate bullshit in our schools, and start reminding people how lucky they are to live in the West compared to other parts of the world... before we become like other parts of the world! Multiculturalism was and is a weapon for the lefties to destroy our coherence and skew our history. I don’t see a way back from that |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 5, 2024 7:55:21 GMT
Some people will always have a go at servicemen. It is to mask their own cowardice. What I am talking about is sources from outside and within creating cracks in society so that they can bring it down. We need to stop teaching all this self-hate bullshit in our schools, and start reminding people how lucky they are to live in the West compared to other parts of the world... before we become like other parts of the world! Multiculturalism was and is a weapon for the lefties to destroy our coherence and skew our history. I don’t see a way back from that That's as many be but what's that got to do with Putin's lies about seeking a peaceful negotiation? He occupies sovereign Ukrainian territory recognised as such by the Budapest Memorandum. |
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 5, 2024 12:54:42 GMT
Multiculturalism was and is a weapon for the lefties to destroy our coherence and skew our history. I don’t see a way back from that That's as many be but what's that got to do with Putin's lies about seeking a peaceful negotiation? He occupies sovereign Ukrainian territory recognised as such by the Budapest Memorandum. People are trying to point out that Putin can do what he wants because The West is so fractured and weak. It's only a matter of time before China starts its own expansionism. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 5, 2024 13:14:55 GMT
And unless the West gets its act together helps Ukraine and Ukraine stops Putin, it'll get worse and there's a growing risk that Taiwan will be invaded by China.
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