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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 1, 2024 15:45:07 GMT
Germany has legalised cannabis, coming here soon... I hope so. I'd legalise the lot. Legalise it, control it, tax it and put the drug gangs out of business. Prohibition does not work. It's worked in America most of them are off their faces high on drugs, so they wont notice Biden destroying America, maybe Labour have to same idea, if everyone is walking round high as a kite off their faces on drugs they wont notice what a fuck up Starmer/Labour making of the country, lets face it this country is almost half way there already, society is falling to pieces with drug lords taking over town by town by city by city. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 1, 2024 15:54:04 GMT
I hope so. I'd legalise the lot. Legalise it, control it, tax it and put the drug gangs out of business. Prohibition does not work. It's worked in America most of them are off their faces high on drugs, so they wont notice Biden destroying America, maybe Labour have to same idea, if everyone is walking round high as a kite off their faces on drugs they wont notice what a fuck up Starmer/Labour making of the country, lets face it this country is almost half way there all ready, society is falling to pieces with drug lords taking over town by town by city by city. And still idiots think that prohibition is the way forward. |
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 1, 2024 15:56:08 GMT
Ok there is of course a serious side to Dogburger's post... ...For all I know the nutter is still cringing in fear in a cubicle But you raise another of my points: Your meth-head is still a meth-head despite meth being illegal. And that's the thing: Drugs are so common in society today that I could probably score any drug within 5 minutes of pretty much anywhere in the UK. Prohibition has not stopped people taking drugs. The people who want to take drugs already are. So legalisation won't cause any more people to start taking them but it will remove much of the surrounding criminality. As long as nobody is smoking it anywhere near me (I hate the smell of it) I don't really care if its legal or not but saying it will remove criminality I can't agree with . Criminals are criminals because thats what they do ,legalising weed will just move them on to pushing other drugs . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 1, 2024 16:05:15 GMT
But you raise another of my points: Your meth-head is still a meth-head despite meth being illegal. And that's the thing: Drugs are so common in society today that I could probably score any drug within 5 minutes of pretty much anywhere in the UK. Prohibition has not stopped people taking drugs. The people who want to take drugs already are. So legalisation won't cause any more people to start taking them but it will remove much of the surrounding criminality. As long as nobody is smoking it anywhere near me (I hate the smell of it) I don't really care if its legal or not but saying it will remove criminality I can't agree with . Criminals are criminals because thats what they do ,legalising weed will just move them on to pushing other drugs . And again, they already do.
As I said: Legalise the lot.
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 1, 2024 16:12:06 GMT
Thus speaks someone who has clearly never had to work on life-threateningly dangerous equipment alongside a pothead. I have, and it is genuinely terror inducing... And again, prohibition didn't prevent that. So your argument is prima facie false. There is no 100 effective preventative measure here (or for anything else for that matter - but that doesn't mean we should legalise everything - that way lies anarchy). There are, however, policy routes that are likely to help minimise incidents like I mentioned above. Legalising drugs is not one of them; not even if you introduced mandatory daily drug tests on arrival at your place of work (and I assume you are not suggesting that). Legalising all drugs WILL increase incidents of such. How can you justify that? All The Best |
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 1, 2024 16:17:40 GMT
As long as nobody is smoking it anywhere near me (I hate the smell of it) I don't really care if its legal or not but saying it will remove criminality I can't agree with . Criminals are criminals because thats what they do ,legalising weed will just move them on to pushing other drugs . And again, they already do.
As I said: Legalise the lot.
But the crims will just move on to other criminality ,what do you think they are going to do get a job in Morrisons ? By keeping it illegal at least in the main it keeps the dug addicts away from public spaces and the criminals in their drug world bubbles . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 1, 2024 16:48:29 GMT
I didn't know till recent that Afghanistan had banned poppy cultivation.
Hence the reason opium in it's raw form is hard to get.
So now they are making man-made/synthetic substitutes or Frankenstein drugs, which are far more destructive, we can only imagine what they are putting in them.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 1, 2024 16:59:24 GMT
Yep, the Taleban are very anti drugs, and destroyed the poppy industry previously, so not so much of a surprise that they are back on the same track.
For me, I'd prefer to see money put into rehab and medical services, rather than prosecutions.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 1, 2024 17:10:08 GMT
Yep, the Taleban are very anti drugs, and destroyed the poppy industry previously, so not so much of a surprise that they are back on the same track. For me, I'd prefer to see money put into rehab and medical services, rather than prosecutions. What do you mean 'they are back on the same track'?
I very much doubt it is just the Taliban who are the only ones producing man-made/synthetic drugs, it's probably the 'Biggest' money making racket on the planet, I think you/we would be very surprised who was on the ... let's make billions ... selling illegal drugs bandwagon.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 1, 2024 17:22:14 GMT
I wasn't saying that the Taleban were creating synthetic drugs, in fact I'd be absolutely astonished if they were. I said that they were destroying the poppy industry, as being strictly religious there is no place for drugs in the Taleban.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 1, 2024 17:40:15 GMT
I wasn't saying that the Taleban were creating synthetic drugs, in fact I'd be absolutely astonished if they were. I said that they were destroying the poppy industry, as being strictly religious there is no place for drugs in the Taleban. Blimey, most of them would be happy having a bit of whatever you were on. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 1, 2024 17:57:36 GMT
Yep, the Taleban are very anti drugs, and destroyed the poppy industry previously, And that was part of the reason the West went into Afghanistan to remove the Taliban. Can't have all the Hooray Henries in The City have to pay more for their weekend pick-me-ups now, can we. All The Best |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 1, 2024 18:09:37 GMT
Yep, the Taleban are very anti drugs, and destroyed the poppy industry previously, And that was part of the reason the West went into Afghanistan to remove the Taliban. Can't have all the Hooray Henries in The City have to pay more for their weekend pick-me-ups now, can we. All The Best Well strangely enough you aren't far off the mark there, the Bush mafia weren't happy they didn't have full control of the poppy fields, hence the reason he dragged dopey useful Blair in to his plan, hence the reason the illegal war in Iraqi began, hence the reason Tony Blair on paper is now worth £80million + (that we know of), work that one out Einstein ........ hence the reason Tony Blair/Labour should NEVER be in office ever again. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 1, 2024 18:12:17 GMT
And that was part of the reason the West went into Afghanistan to remove the Taliban. Can't have all the Hooray Henries in The City have to pay more for their weekend pick-me-ups now, can we. All The Best Well strangely enough you aren't far off the mark there, the Bush mafia weren't happy they didn't have full control of the poppy fields, hence the reason he dragged dopey useful Blair in to his plan, hence the reason the illegal war in Iraqi began, hence the reason Tony Blair on paper is now worth £80million + (that we know of), work that one out Einstein ........ hence the reason Tony Blair/Labour should NEVER be in office ever again.No argument from me. Tony Blair was a class-traitor charlatan, who turned the Labour Party into the Tory-Lite Party. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 1, 2024 18:46:43 GMT
And again, prohibition didn't prevent that. So your argument is prima facie false. There is no 100 effective preventative measure here (or for anything else for that matter - but that doesn't mean we should legalise everything - that way lies anarchy). There are, however, policy routes that are likely to help minimise incidents like I mentioned above. Legalising drugs is not one of them; not even if you introduced mandatory daily drug tests on arrival at your place of work (and I assume you are not suggesting that). Legalising all drugs WILL increase incidents of such. How can you justify that? All The Best All of the evidence from countries that have legalised or decriminalised drugs suggests the opposite of what you suggest. Have a look at Portugal as an example. |
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