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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 31, 2024 16:10:54 GMT
Look at the stupid bitch the stupid Tories want to replace Rishi with. It's the "I'm going to fight" fuckwit with the sword. Rishi is probably more sensible than he comes across due to the fact he has to represent the whole asylum (party), not say what he thinks. you might recall 'the stupid fuckwit with the sword' was third placed by the party to take the job.... Things can only get worse with that party. Rishi might not be the world's best speaker, but he can add things up. At one time he was a successful investor, hence why he is so loaded. It's not all his wife's money. They change leader and I can guarantee things will get even worse. Do we want another Liz Truss moment? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 1, 2024 10:22:37 GMT
The main concern I have is that nothing will change I look back to 2009, and I recall a European Parliamentary election so badly engaged with by the public that on the Thursday night the polling stations closed at ten, the ballot papers were all at Newbridge counting centre by quarter past, opened and 'face down counted' in the peculiar EU ritual that left unsealed ballot boxes in the labour returning officer's hands in an unknown location until Sunday when storage containers with the unsealed votes were brought back and counted, a process that took so little time that I was back in Cwmbran by 10:55 in time for a pint before last orders. (I'll leave you to wonder at the integrity of the vote with unsealed ballot papers in the control of the labour council leader for two days at a secret location ......) However in the North East and North West even that ritual removal of integrity failed to stop two BNP candidates becoming Members of the European Parliament The impact that had on Labour was quite interesting Brown, whose opinion of the English was of course revealed in his famous open mike gaffe Was reduced to stealing the BNP's "British jobs for British workers" slogan (although knowing full well he was lying his arse off as continued EU membership meant any one of 472 million people had the absolute right to rock up at Dover, demand a NINO and take a British job, and no British Government had ever used it's right to throw them back if still unemployed 13 weeks later) but the more interesting impact was upon Phil Woolas the then immigration minister who started openly stating it was time to make illegals register for asylum in the first point of entry and process their claim there, offering residence across the whole EU to those successful and a swift return to those not. These two changes of policy show that one does not need a majority to cause change, merely the ability to overthrow the status quo or sometimes not even that, given that Farage got a referendum on EU membership without a single MP. I fear that even the election of a Reform MP will not change either Labour or Tory policy (such as either have) I disagree, I think things will change, the reason many people are bored with politics at the moment is because there's no real choice. We often hear people say 'they're all the same' and that has never been more true than today. Labour voters want a left wing/centre left Labour party and Conservatives want a right wing/centre right party, who knew. Yet Starmer and Sunak are centrists, you would struggle to squeeze a fag paper between most of their policies hence the rapid rise of Reform UK. But I think things will change, and it will be bad news for Reform UK because after the next election the Tories in opposition will definately move back to the centre right there's absolutely no doubt about it and this will be bad news for Reform UK because as you know the majority of Reform supporters/voters are pissed off centre right Conservatives. I think, thanks to Labour policy on such things as the EU, net-zero, immigration, minorities, DEI and gender, come the 2029 election Reform UK voters will revert to the Conservatives and we will see the first proper centre right Conservative government since the days of Thatcher. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 1, 2024 11:22:38 GMT
Well, I doubt the 72 year old me in 2029 will have enjoyed the five years between then and now.
Christ I look back now to 1979 and recall the 22 year old me, with the ink drying on the degree certificate and a bright future ahead and think fuck me how did I allow the bastards to fuck this country over the way they have
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 1, 2024 11:51:56 GMT
Well, I doubt the 72 year old me in 2029 will have enjoyed the five years between then and now. Christ I look back now to 1979 and recall the 22 year old me, with the ink drying on the degree certificate and a bright future ahead and think fuck me how did I allow the bastards to fuck this country over the way they have The difference between you and I was when I was 22 I had already smelt a rat. I was like Cassandra of Troy. I knew what was going to happen. I just had to look at the various students and what they thought. The thing was you never saw the Chinese and the Korean students in the union bar. If you went to the various libraries you would find them all in there. Our people had become arrogant cheats and basically stupid. They might know all about 16th century France or some other crap, but their general abilities were that of fuckwits. I just looked at the whole place with this view of hopelessness. I already knew what the older generations were like and they were smart. It was my generation I was worried about. On top of that they got brainwashed. I saw them as lemmings. They had all been lied to about once you get your degree then you will get a great job. Little did they know they were entering firms that would soon go bankrupt, and whole industries would go bankrupt. These days i see quite a few names in government who were students there at the time I was. Now they have risen to positions of power. That's why we are fucked. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 1, 2024 13:12:19 GMT
Cassandra of course was condemned to have her gift of unerring prophecy received with disbelief and derision by all who heard it
In my time there was a marked difference of attitude in Cardiff Uni between what I guess were STEM subject takers, 'proper' Art students and Music students and the others, Humanities and Arty Farty Arse Holes
Although much of my studying was done in the main Science Faculty building, my fellow students were generally medical, dental, vetinary and hard science orientated, and we shared facilities with 'UWIST' where most of the courses were aimed at engineering, materials science, the nascent semiconductor scene and mineral exploitation.
There was a separate campus where fine art and such was taught, and a separate building again dedicated to teaching music and drama.
But I guess what everyone pursuing a course in any of those buildings had in common was that for every one of us, the paperwork at the end of the course was an ABSOLUTE requirement for the career we envisaged. You didn't get to be a doctor, or design a drug, or a building or a bridge without that paperwork.
In stark contrast the student union hacks nominated by the student union to 'represent' UCC on University Challenge were the no hoper cretins in political science humanities and social sciences whose grasp of reality was shall we say minimal as would be their contribution to society.
I have mentioned before the prize arse whose complaint that his degree from Newpirts Art and Business School led to nothing but an interview for a job filling shelves at Curry's where he was forced during the interview to dance to a 'Daft Punk' record
What he fails to mention us the paltry nature of his third class bare pass.
He was a lazy twat who not once but twice tried to pull the wool over my wife's eyes over his failure to submit work on time during the curriculum and paid the price in miserable grades.
What the writer of the BBC page NEGLECTED to say was that every one of the students except him secured full time paid work using the skills acquired.
Arguably some might have achieved that without spending that time in that course but all say it gave them the opportunity to experiment and learn, and their current employment or success of their business enterprise since speaks to that
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 1, 2024 20:09:05 GMT
I can't see them changing leader again.
Anybody with a brain is already (a) stepping down at the GE (b) dropping ministerial roles in preparation for losing their seat and needing other employment.
Hence they will want the election in October / November, and changing leader now runs the risk of an immediate election.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 1, 2024 20:51:26 GMT
Well, I doubt the 72 year old me in 2029 will have enjoyed the five years between then and now. Christ I look back now to 1979 and recall the 22 year old me, with the ink drying on the degree certificate and a bright future ahead and think fuck me how did I allow the bastards to fuck this country over the way they have I have a degree, in 1979 I was two years into a 22 year course that shaped my life and it must be said, from start to finish it was a rollercoaster of a course. And when I look back it is indeed as you say, quite remarkable how much this country has changed, sadly for the worse, in such a short period of time. |
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Post by vlk on Apr 1, 2024 22:30:31 GMT
The Tories won the 2015 election when they promised to hold a Brexit-referendum.
Perhaps they could promise to hold a referendum on immigration in order to save themselves from being wiped out. However, with Sunak as PM very hard to think something like that as even remotely possible.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 1, 2024 22:38:55 GMT
The Tories won the 2015 election when they promised to hold a Brexit-referendum. Perhaps they could promise to hold a referendum on immigration in order to save themselves from being wiped out. However, with Sunak as PM very hard to think something like that as even remotely possible. Cameron didn't 'promise' to hold a referendum. In 2013 he said 'the British people should have their say', which was big of him. Of course when he said that he never in a million years thought it would actually happen. Thank fuck for UKIP. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 1, 2024 23:16:17 GMT
The Tories won the 2015 election when they promised to hold a Brexit-referendum. Perhaps they could promise to hold a referendum on immigration in order to save themselves from being wiped out. However, with Sunak as PM very hard to think something like that as even remotely possible. Camoron didn't want a referendum. He spent £9million of taxpayers money on posting his pro EUSSR arsewipe throught every letter box in the land.. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 2, 2024 1:51:18 GMT
The Tories won the 2015 election when they promised to hold a Brexit-referendum. Perhaps they could promise to hold a referendum on immigration in order to save themselves from being wiped out. However, with Sunak as PM very hard to think something like that as even remotely possible. Cameron didn't 'promise' to hold a referendum. In 2013 he said 'the British people should have their say', which was big of him. Of course when he said that he never in a million years thought it would actually happen. Thank fuck for UKIP. Um .... I was driving back from seeing a former work colleague who lived in a cottage outside Bath on the road that you hap to payba till of about 50p to cross, I had paid this toll and turned onto the main road that went up the hill and I was just passing the point where all the lanes merged when I turned the car radio on It was the Radio 4 PM Programme. 5pm It was playing a recording of David Cameron at the despatch box He categorically stated that if the next election resulted in a conservative Majority Government that he would hold, within the lifetime of that parliament, a referendum on whether the country should be in, or out of the European Union, a referendum in which he would campaign with his heart and soul to stay in, but whose result he would personally take to the EU Parliament the very next day I nearly crashed the bloody car at the top if the junction. But I distinctly heard his words promising that on a PM programme a couple of months before the 2015 election On the Friday after the referendum I stayed up all night I didn't realise I was going to, but I did. I was awake when Dumble y announced at two minutes past six that Britain was leaving the EU, with an expression that made it seem he'd just eaten a bucket of lemons I was driving the car to work in Ross On Wye when Cameron called his Press Conference I'd just gone down the Coldra Woods slip road and was pulling up the hill past the carbuncle that Canadian twat built without planning permission where a perfectly good maternity hospital used to be when Cameron announced to the world he was not the man to carry out the promise he made and was in fact legging it I had to dodge three cars who almost crashed off the carriagewsy |
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