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Post by Vinny on Nov 21, 2022 11:26:42 GMT
I'll start.
Chile 1973, elected government overthrown by military junta, supported by USA and UK.
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Post by jeg er on Nov 21, 2022 12:06:34 GMT
MK Ultra - CIA testing mind control drugs on people
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 21, 2022 12:26:07 GMT
Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment 1932-1972.
Testing the effects of not treating cases of the disease in the black population. Despite advances in medicine making it entirely curable towards the end of the experiment leading to over 100 unnecessary deaths and an understandable reluctance to take vaccines in the black population. No doubt leading to further unnecessary deaths.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 18, 2022 10:29:17 GMT
That's shocking!
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 19, 2022 9:03:42 GMT
Who was DB Cooper? On the afternoon of November 24, 1971, a nondescript man calling himself Dan Cooper approached the counter of Northwest Orient Airlines in Portland, Oregon. He used cash to buy a one-way ticket on Flight #305, bound for Seattle, Washington. Thus began one of the great unsolved mysteries in FBI history. www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/db-cooper-hijacking |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 19, 2022 9:27:27 GMT
Who was the first to summit Mt Everest?
History records that Hilary and Tensing were the first to reach the summit of Everest in 1953. However, there are people in the climbing world, serious people, who think the summit may have been reached 29 years earlier.
Very briefly: In 1924 during an expedition to Everest Andrew Irvine and George Mallory disappeared near the summit. There has long been speculation on whether they got into difficulties on the way to the summit, or on the way down, from the summit. Mallory's body was found in 1999 near the summit at an altitude of 27,000ft, just below the first step. It was known he carried a photograph of his wife in his wallet that he intended to leave at the summit. When his body was found in 1999 his wallet and contents were intact, but the photograph was missing.
So, who was the first to summit Mt Everest? Hilary and Tensing in 1953, or Irvine and Mallory in 1924. Personally I'd like to think it was Irvine and Mallory.
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Post by Orac on Dec 19, 2022 12:27:10 GMT
Interesting Red.
My own thoughts on this is that planning correctly so you get down intact, is probably more than half the achievement. If you look into the mountaineering world a bit, it's clear that getting down is usually where all the real problems start - especially with something like Everest. I guess it depends on how a successful summit is defined. If it is defined as purely reaching the summit, then it looks like it could well have been Irvine and Mallory. The trouble is - how can anyone be sure?
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Post by Vinny on Dec 19, 2022 13:19:00 GMT
Who was DB Cooper? On the afternoon of November 24, 1971, a nondescript man calling himself Dan Cooper approached the counter of Northwest Orient Airlines in Portland, Oregon. He used cash to buy a one-way ticket on Flight #305, bound for Seattle, Washington. Thus began one of the great unsolved mysteries in FBI history. www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/db-cooper-hijackingYeah, he jumped out of a 727 using the rear stairs as an exit, some of the money has been found, but he never was. Wouldn't be surprised if the parachute they gave him was deliberately sabotaged. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 19, 2022 13:25:04 GMT
Yeah, he jumped out of a 727 using the rear stairs as an exit, some of the money has been found, but he never was. Wouldn't be surprised if the parachute they gave him was deliberately sabotaged. Then surely a body would have been found, yet the area where he would have landed has been very thoroughly search a few times and no trace of parachute or body has been found. Although some money, just a few bills, believed to be a part of his stash was found on a riverbank some miles from where he would have landed. |
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Post by Vinny on Dec 19, 2022 13:56:39 GMT
Looked into this again, he was given a selection of parachutes including civilian ones from a skydiving school near the airport the 727 stopped at.
Sabotage would be more difficult.
Thing is, even if he survived the jump, the serial numbers of the notes he stole, were recorded and distributed to banks and shops.
They didn't re enter circulation.
It's a fascinating case and I guess we'll never know fully what happened.
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 19, 2022 15:47:36 GMT
Interesting Red. My own thoughts on this is that planning correctly so you get down intact, is probably more than half the achievement. If you look into the mountaineering world a bit, it's clear that getting down is usually where all the real problems start - especially with something like Everest. I guess it depends on how a successful summit is defined. If it is defined as purely reaching the summit, then it looks like it could well have been Irvine and Mallory. The trouble is - how can anyone be sure? The only Way we will ever find out for certain is if the camera is found. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 20, 2022 1:48:49 GMT
Interesting Red. My own thoughts on this is that planning correctly so you get down intact, is probably more than half the achievement. If you look into the mountaineering world a bit, it's clear that getting down is usually where all the real problems start - especially with something like Everest. I guess it depends on how a successful summit is defined. If it is defined as purely reaching the summit, then it looks like it could well have been Irvine and Mallory. The trouble is - how can anyone be sure? It is very interesting. The more you read into it the more you think, there just might be something else here. American teams are more interested in this than we are. They have had a few expeditions who attempted to find the truth, indeed it was a US expedition who found Mallory's body in 1999. But the key to the whole question is George Mallory's climbing partner, Andrew Irvine. He carried the camera. Due to the altitude the film would be preserved, and with modern technology the film would provide proof. I mean it's inconceivable that they wouldn't have taken photos from the summit. This is why the search for Andrew Irvine continues. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 20, 2022 1:59:16 GMT
There are some pretty big conspiracy theories going on out there, I've mentioned one or two. But how about this one, I've watched all the documentaries, the 'experts' seem to be clueless.
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 26, 2022 10:24:10 GMT
Who was the first to summit Mt Everest? History records that Hilary and Tensing were the first to reach the summit of Everest in 1953. However, there are people in the climbing world, serious people, who think the summit may have been reached 29 years earlier. Very briefly: In 1924 during an expedition to Everest Andrew Irvine and George Mallory disappeared near the summit. There has long been speculation on whether they got into difficulties on the way to the summit, or on the way down, from the summit. Mallory's body was found in 1999 near the summit at an altitude of 27,000ft, just below the first step. It was known he carried a photograph of his wife in his wallet that he intended to leave at the summit. When his body was found in 1999 his wallet and contents were intact, but the photograph was missing. So, who was the first to summit Mt Everest? Hilary and Tensing in 1953, or Irvine and Mallory in 1924. Personally I'd like to think it was Irvine and Mallory. I heard this ages ago and I think it quite possible. Sadly all we can really say is Hilary and Tensing were the first to climb it and return. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 26, 2022 10:28:16 GMT
There are some pretty big conspiracy theories going on out there, I've mentioned one or two. But how about this one, I've watched all the documentaries, the 'experts' seem to be clueless. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. The saddest part of that is the searchers found a signal under the flight route and focussed on that, while it was later established that the engine management system pinged a satellite much later showing they had travelled much further. Had they not picked up that bogus signal … well I suppose discovery might have provided closure but little else I fear. |
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