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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 21, 2024 23:12:22 GMT
OK, with you so far. So a dingy of illegals lands on a Kent beach with no documents and Macron refuses to have them back, where do you send them? LOL..... if only it was so easy. Why is it difficult The EU gave them identity papers. Ditch the ECHR and throw them back on a Calais Beach. There was a time we had a level of Government Secrecy thst basically meant ‘don’t reveal it to the french’ Time to explain what leaving the EU actually meant And if that means the french view us as North Korea, well it won’t be the first time will it. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 22, 2024 6:53:14 GMT
I love the way they’ve nicked labour’s abuse of the word ‘emergency’
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Post by sheepy on Mar 22, 2024 7:00:59 GMT
I love the way they’ve nicked labour’s abuse of the word ‘emergency’ If it's finally an emergency, you have to take emergency measures, but it seems our esteemed right-wing posters only see that as a problem and although the Conservatives have been in power for over a decade it is Labours fault. Personally, I don't much care about Labours utterings their previous utterings were roundly rejected by the public as the last election and are only looking like winning by default by the Conservatives being so bad at governing the country and not doing what they were asked by the electorate. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 22, 2024 7:07:15 GMT
I love the way they’ve nicked labour’s abuse of the word ‘emergency’ If it's finally an emergency, you have to take emergency measures, but it seems our esteemed right-wing posters only see that as a problem and although the Conservatives have been in power for over a decade it is Labours fault. Personally, I don't much care about Labours utterings their previous utterings were roundly rejected by the public as the last election and are only looking like winning by default by the Conservatives being so bad at governing the country and doing what they were asked by the electorate. Of course you’re overlooking the fact they've run wales pretty much permanently since the war and had absolute power over it for the past twenty five years Here the word is usually used next to ‘climate’ and is used as an excuse for reducing transport infrastructure back to the speed of a trotting horse, destroying jobs as people can no longer depend on it to get to work |
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Post by sheepy on Mar 22, 2024 7:11:33 GMT
If it's finally an emergency, you have to take emergency measures, but it seems our esteemed right-wing posters only see that as a problem and although the Conservatives have been in power for over a decade it is Labours fault. Personally, I don't much care about Labours utterings their previous utterings were roundly rejected by the public as the last election and are only looking like winning by default by the Conservatives being so bad at governing the country and doing what they were asked by the electorate. Of course you’re overlooking the fact they've run wales pretty much permanently since the war and had absolute power over it for the past twenty five years Here the word is usually used next to ‘climate’ and is used as an excuse for reducing transport infrastructure back to the speed of a trotting horse, destroying jobs as people can no longer depend on it to get to work I guess then it is for the Welsh to decide if Labour have actually changed things for the better with their emergency measures. They haven't for you by the sound of it. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 22, 2024 7:20:23 GMT
Of course you’re overlooking the fact they've run wales pretty much permanently since the war and had absolute power over it for the past twenty five years Here the word is usually used next to ‘climate’ and is used as an excuse for reducing transport infrastructure back to the speed of a trotting horse, destroying jobs as people can no longer depend on it to get to work I guess then it is for the Welsh to decide if Labour have actually changed things for the better with their emergency measures. They haven't for you by the sound of it. Well the majority of drivers in Wales are not happy over the 20 mph speed restrictions. And who can blame them? |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 22, 2024 7:34:54 GMT
The days when work was at the bottom of the street, a short bus ride or cycle ride away are long gone, people now have to travel much further these days, some travel many miles each day to work and back home.
Public Transport is often unreliable and costly plus of course the Unions come out on strike at the drop of hat which means people cannot get to work hospital etc which damages our economy.
I support 20mph sections near schools and hospitals for safety reasons, but there is a difference between scratching your arse and tearing it to bits
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 22, 2024 8:05:17 GMT
Of course you’re overlooking the fact they've run wales pretty much permanently since the war and had absolute power over it for the past twenty five years Here the word is usually used next to ‘climate’ and is used as an excuse for reducing transport infrastructure back to the speed of a trotting horse, destroying jobs as people can no longer depend on it to get to work I guess then it is for the Welsh to decide if Labour have actually changed things for the better with their emergency measures. They haven't for you by the sound of it. Well don’t rely on me. Roughly twenty thousand more than voted for labour last time at the Senedd signed tbe oetition to take the 20 moh limit and shove it, but tve head wanker said ‘niet’ |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 22, 2024 8:07:46 GMT
The days when work was at the bottom of the street, a short bus ride or cycle ride away are long gone, people now have to travel much further these days, some travel many miles each day to work and back home. Public Transport is often unreliable and costly plus of course the Unions come out on strike at the drop of hat which means people cannot get to work hospital etc which damages our economy. I support 20mph sections near schools and hospitals for safety reasons, but there is a difference between scratching your arse and tearing it to bits Why have it by hospitals ? No patients are walking near them No pedestrians approach them The fact is, though, that every example of why they were ‘needed’ (which they aren’t) already gad them It’s anti motorist dogma pure and simple. |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 22, 2024 8:19:16 GMT
The days when work was at the bottom of the street, a short bus ride or cycle ride away are long gone, people now have to travel much further these days, some travel many miles each day to work and back home. Public Transport is often unreliable and costly plus of course the Unions come out on strike at the drop of hat which means people cannot get to work hospital etc which damages our economy. I support 20mph sections near schools and hospitals for safety reasons, but there is a difference between scratching your arse and tearing it to bits Why have it by hospitals ? No patients are walking near them No pedestrians approach them The fact is, though, that every example of why they were ‘needed’ (which they aren’t) already gad them It’s anti motorist dogma pure and simple. Yes they do have pedestrians attending out patients people visiting their friends and family, walk in A+E , staff walking to work etc , 7 days a week, people also drive into the hospitals that have car parks every day they all quieten down in the evenings |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 22, 2024 9:54:42 GMT
Well have you actually looked ?
For the arsebook protest group i went looking at the layout of wrlsh hospitals. Most have zero pedestrian access from the roads downrated, with bus stops usually in the heart of the ‘campus’
UHW is a singular example, all public transport and private car access is off the eastern avenue bypass directly into the hospital grounds, pedestrian access was always via a the former playing field they bulldozed to build it, cars have been banned on that road for years and now the doors through which i walked both as a patient and as one of the staff are sealed. Not locked, sealed
Singleton Hospital Swansea, Bridgend, Neville Hall Abergavenny and the Gwent and the Grange are all the same. Roads downgraded ‘for proximity to hospitals’ are at keast a quarter mike from their entrances. It’s all bullshit
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Post by Handyman on Mar 22, 2024 10:53:40 GMT
Well have you actually looked ? For the arsebook protest group i went looking at the layout of wrlsh hospitals. Most have zero pedestrian access from the roads downrated, with bus stops usually in the heart of the ‘campus’ UHW is a singular example, all public transport and private car access is off the eastern avenue bypass directly into the hospital grounds, pedestrian access was always via a the former playing field they bulldozed to build it, cars have been banned on that road for years and now the doors through which i walked both as a patient and as one of the staff are sealed. Not locked, sealed Singleton Hospital Swansea, Bridgend, Neville Hall Abergavenny and the Gwent and the Grange are all the same. Roads downgraded ‘for proximity to hospitals’ are at keast a quarter mike from their entrances. It’s all bullshit Yes I have four hospitals near me , wife works in one of them and I can tell you the vehicles in and out every day is high two are on or just off busy roads hence the 20mph near the entrances to the Hospitals, inside the Hospital grounds its 15mph due to the high footfall plus in her one double decker busses run into it day and night, delivery lorries ambulances etc constantly Near five schools both Junior and a Secondary Schools its 20mph near the entrances and exists for 3 or 4 hundred yards then back to 30 mph, and no on street parking for that stretch for the simple reason it blocks the drivers vision when driving past the schools, the restrictions have been put in place because some drivers are idiots and drive too quickly in the wrong places, its not rocket science simple common sense |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 23, 2024 15:26:16 GMT
First bit of good news for the government in ages - now they just need to get France to agree with Ireland and that would put a stop to the French ushering migrant boats out into the middle of the Channel to be picked up by the British....
"Britain is not safe for migrants because of the risk of deportation to Rwanda, the Irish High Court has ruled.
In a judgment on Friday, Ms Justice Siobhan Phelan said the Irish Government’s declaration of the UK as a “safe third country” to which it could return asylum seekers was unlawful.
She ruled in favour of two asylum seekers who argued the designation was unlawful because it meant they were at risk of onward removal to Rwanda if they were returned from Ireland to the UK."
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Post by see2 on Mar 23, 2024 16:20:41 GMT
It was a wakeup call decades ago Einstein and still they ignored everyone and kept it up at an ever-increasing rate of knots, now the ones who have been caught out are leaving the sinking ship and there is nobody in their right mind voting for any more of it, while they come up with Rwanda type schemes that is just another red herring costing millions and won't go anywhere, because it is a sticking plaster not a solution. Listen Sherlock, Blair caused this fuckin catastrophe with his open border policy, never once giving it a thought it would be used and abused, the Europhile was too busy arse licking his EU elite masters, the Tories can't undo the fuck up the Blair government has caused, even if a new Labour government take office their old Labour policies will tie their own hands. For goodness sakes man, its time for you to grow up and stop blaming Labour for the obvious failings of the Tories since 2010. |
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Post by om15 on Mar 23, 2024 17:43:18 GMT
This is where it started, and coupled with the signing of every treaty in sight ensured that Governments subsequent to Blair's couldn't in practice do anything about it, you are right that the Tories have been impotent, we should withdraw from the ECHR and anyone wading ashore should be arrested and put into detention for illegal entry. After a reasonable prison sentence the person should then be given a choice of voluntary deportation home or a return to prison. The strongest evidence for conspiracy comes from one of Labour’s own. Andrew Neather, a previously unheard-of speechwriter for Blair, Straw and Blunkett, popped up with an article in the Evening Standard in October 2009 which gave the game away.
Immigration, he wrote, ‘didn’t just happen; the deliberate policy of Ministers from late 2000…was to open up the UK to mass immigration’.
He was at the heart of policy in September 2001, drafting the landmark speech by the then Immigration Minister Barbara Roche, and he reported ‘coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended - even if this wasn’t its main purpose - to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date’.www.migrationwatchuk.org/press-article/83 |
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