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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 10, 2024 10:02:57 GMT
The reason I have gone quiet recently … is 95% because I have ‘a Life’ outside this forum … 5% because it becomes tedious to keep reiterating the same points over and over Especially when they are bat-shit crazy, made up bullshit, and not even you really believe them, eh? All The Best
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 10, 2024 10:43:14 GMT
The reason I have gone quiet recently … is 95% because I have ‘a Life’ outside this forum … 5% because it becomes tedious to keep reiterating the same points over and over Especially when they are bat-shit crazy, made up bullshit, and not even you really believe them, eh? All The Best Can you point out exactly which bit is “bat-shit crazy” and which bit is “bullshit” …. I am genuinely confused?? All the very best. Hoping for some answers this time … facts … not moaning or abuse. P.S. …. While your about it … can you PLEASE tell me why you are TOTALLY ignoring NATO/EU expansionism since Gorbachev thought the West was interested in ending the Cold War?? NATO LIED. $$$$kerchiiinggg … Cold War 2 … the Final Chapter?? …. This isn’t a Hollywood game …. Start taking your responsibilities SERIOUSLY. P.P.S. EU/van Leyden interest in Ukraine hasn’t changed since the N*zi invasion of the Soviet Union. … Her Family is still interested in resource-grab.
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 10, 2024 10:45:08 GMT
Especially when they are bat-shit crazy, made up bullshit, and not even you really believe them, eh? All The Best Can you point out exactly which bit is “bat-shit crazy” and which bit is “bullshit” …. I am genuinely confused?? Anything and everything you have posted defending Putin's annexation of Crimea, the Donbas and the illegal invasion of Ukraine, and the war crimes committed in achieving those things. That you are "genuinely confused" is readily apparent in every post you make on this topic. All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 10, 2024 10:47:59 GMT
Especially when they are bat-shit crazy, made up bullshit, and not even you really believe them, eh? All The Best P.S. …. While your about it … can you PLEASE tell me why you are TOTALLY ignoring NATO/EU expansionism since Gorbachev thought the West was interested in ending the Cold War?? Because those expansions, of the EU and NATO were based on legal, internationally overseen and accredited democratic processes. None of Putin's illegal expansions were. Simple really, isn't it. All The Best
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Post by Vinny on Apr 10, 2024 10:50:14 GMT
P.S. …. While your about it … can you PLEASE tell me why you are TOTALLY ignoring NATO/EU expansionism since Gorbachev thought the West was interested in ending the Cold War?? Because those expansions, of the EU and NATO were based on legal, internationally overseen and accredited democratic processes. None of Putin's illegal expansions were. Simple really, isn't it. All The Best You're talking to a guy who thinks 9/11 was staged by the US government to justify the invasion of Iraq...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2024 10:53:44 GMT
Can you point out exactly which bit is “bat-shit crazy” and which bit is “bullshit” …. I am genuinely confused?? Anything and everything you have posted defending Putin's annexation of Crimea, the Donbas and the illegal invasion of Ukraine, and the war crimes committed in achieving those things. Aww, trying to bully and abuse the most outlandish on Mind Zone. Such bravery. Did they teach you this at big boy school?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2024 11:03:08 GMT
Because those expansions, of the EU and NATO were based on legal, internationally overseen and accredited democratic processes. None of Putin's illegal expansions were. Simple really, isn't it. All The Best You're talking to a guy who thinks 9/11 was staged by the US government to justify the invasion of Iraq... He and ~25% of those who took part in opinion polls. Still, perhaps you can have him locked up over a thought crime. You know, western freedoms must be defended, even though you're talking to somebody who believes anyone with a different opinion is a racist who should be persecuted by the state.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 10, 2024 11:04:47 GMT
He's defending an illegal invasion and the mass murder of civilians. I'm telling him facts and inviting him to change his position. If you've got a problem with me take it up with the moderators.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 10, 2024 11:08:31 GMT
Anything and everything you have posted defending Putin's annexation of Crimea, the Donbas and the illegal invasion of Ukraine, and the war crimes committed in achieving those things. Aww, trying to bully and abuse the most outlandish on Mind Zone. Such bravery. Did they teach you this at big boy school?
Ahem … There is nothing ‘outlandish’ about the logic of my POV. … they are using abuse and generalising because they can’t actually pinpoint or have the ‘balls’ to admit where Western illegality matched Kremlin illegality. … and which came FIRST … that triggered the SECOND. … that is the KEY here … who broke the Treaties first … that dominoed into all this killing and destruction. …. Recent Timeline History shows AZOV, ultra-Right Nationalist factions, the Soros Posse … and the CIA/Washington Dr Strangeloves … are jointly GUILTY. YEAR 2000 onwards … Putin interventions 2018 onwards …. END OF ARGUMENT.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2024 11:10:46 GMT
He's defending an illegal invasion and the mass murder of civilians. I'm telling him facts and inviting him to change his position. If you've got a problem with me take it up with the moderators. Dubdrifter is harmless, like satire. He isn't on the streets of GB waving swasticas and calling for the extermination of Jews in Israel.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 10, 2024 11:13:36 GMT
Putin's invasion started in 2014 when he sent the Wagner Group into Donetsk, Luhansk and Odesa, and stole Crimea as well.
Azov (a fairly new regiment) were not founded until the 2014 attacks by Russian mercenaries had started and they were put together in a hurry because of a state of emergency caused by Putin. Azov were professionalised in 2017 and purged of the Football Hooligan / Neo Nazi types.
Ukraine has never had a Neo Nazi government and Neo Nazis struggle to get elected in Ukraine the same as they struggle to get elected here.
Putin's forces however bombed the Babi Yar holocaust memorial and you are making excuses for war crimes.
Change your position.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 10, 2024 11:18:12 GMT
He's defending an illegal invasion and the mass murder of civilians. I'm telling him facts and inviting him to change his position. If you've got a problem with me take it up with the moderators. Dubdrifter is harmless, like satire. He isn't on the streets of GB waving swasticas and calling for the extermination of Jews in Israel. Certainly not … nobody here is. We know exactly where the bad boys in this scenario reside … a small bunch of thugs … sums them up. … but if you think the POV I declare is a ‘lone satyrical voice’ … we aren’t laughing about this … …. but as Moderates and tough Humanists … we still retain a GSOH. 👍 ************* [Catch you all later … got other things more important to do]
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Post by Vinny on Apr 10, 2024 11:20:24 GMT
He's defending an illegal invasion and the mass murder of civilians. I'm telling him facts and inviting him to change his position. If you've got a problem with me take it up with the moderators. Dubdrifter is harmless, like satire. He isn't on the streets of GB waving swasticas and calling for the extermination of Jews in Israel. Harmless? Don't make me laugh. He's cheer leading an illegal invasion, celebrating bullying, murder and land theft. He's a war monger. Over 100,000 people were murdered in Chechnya in the illegal invasion of that country, I've seen photos of the mass graves. Journalists who spoke out, were murdered. If Dub had his way, another genocide would happen in Ukraine. There is only one way to prevent another genocide and that is to arm the victims of invasion to the teeth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2024 11:30:40 GMT
Dubdrifter is harmless, like satire. He isn't on the streets of GB waving swasticas and calling for the extermination of Jews in Israel. Certainly not … nobody here is. We know exactly where the bad boys in this scenario reside … a small bunch of thugs … sums them up. … but if you think the POV I declare is a ‘lone satyrical voice’ … we aren’t laughing about this … …. but as Moderates and tough Humanists … we still retain a GSOH. 👍 ************* [Catch you all later … got other things more important to do] I'm sure you're a tolerant individual, unlike the hypocrites who keep attacking you personally. I can disagree with you and shrug. I don't have any demands for you to agree with everything I say, unlike the fascists and Islamists on here do.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 10, 2024 11:45:06 GMT
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