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Post by Vinny on Apr 5, 2024 9:31:58 GMT
You're calling that an election?
Loads of candidates barred from standing (because they might win), some candidates were even murdered.
After the failed 1991 coup and the fall of Communism the remnant KGB (including Putin) adopted fascism as plan B.
Whilst you prattle on with irrelevance about Azov (which was only founded after Putin started stealing Ukrainian sovereign territory at gunpoint, was purged in 2017 and surrendered at the Azovstal steelworks in 2022), genocide has been taking place in Chechnya, and in Ukraine with your wholehearted support.
You are a supporter of evil.
You haven't even condemned the murder of Alexei Navalny.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 5, 2024 9:32:52 GMT
Nor have you condemned the murder of Boris Nemtsov, who was shot dead four hours after ripping into Putin on public radio.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 5, 2024 9:51:40 GMT
The WEST and WOKE politicians fake concern for civilian casualties these days.
We see a collective failure to impose SANCTIONS on Israel over Gaza genocide … Complete failure to shut down it’s access to weapon imports, finance, banking, mineral resources, trade, and imports Russians were denied etc … It shows a West arguably now controlled by small bullying quango factions riddled with hypocrisy.
Events since the 2010 Odessa Massacre confirmed that the Kiev Government no longer had control of Nationalist thugs occupying Government building, burning down churches and picking off and murdering any decent influential person within the Army and Administration who had fears this was Germany 1930’s revisited. N*zism on the rise again.
FOOTNOTE ASIDE:
P.S. We have already argued the case regarding the gross key failures of Brexit. To remove ourselves from EU control and the Brussels WEF … secure our borders … find new trading partners … and stop the EU and America breaking up the UK.
….we have had 8 years of traitors within the BBC/Media and Whitehall waging a covert civil war against the Democratic mandate desired by the British People … we are still waiting to have FULL BREXIT DELIVERED.
IT WON’T BE DELIVERED while our PM, Sunak, is appointed by the WEF and powerful bullying factions entrenched in The Monday Club of the Tory Party.
British People don’t appreciate being run by the WEF and the EU … and having our British Military positioned in an ‘offensive situation’ serving EU/Zionist expansionist ambitions.
BRITISH TROOPS DYING IN SUPPORT OF THE Expansionist CROOKS THAT RUN the EU … is the most wasted death imaginable … especially after BREXIT. Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak need to be dragged in chains before a British Court of Human Rights … and imprisoned for putting our Military in that shocking position.
NATO has been hijacked by ‘offensive orientated’ Cold War 2 strategists/expansionists …. Britain needs to leave this corrupted NATO now. … change strategy and just defend UK and Commonwealth interests … and those of BRICS … when we join under a new UK Government interested in representing our indigenous people.
Our troops should be deployed defensively supporting UK border security … stopping illegal invasion from the EU … religious extremist invasion … and fast track removing ~ illegals, criminals, rapists, anarchists and child molesters linked to religious factions ~ back to the EU - the last border they crossed. Simple economic solutions.
Effective Government isn’t hard if people aren’t corrupt … and have ‘full representation’ in their mandates. Real Democracy … not Western SHAMOCRACY … determined to engineer an IDIOCRACY.
Brexit should have instigated fast track deportation, BRICS and secure borders … LONG AGO. Year 1 after we voted.
Government failure means fast track removal. Goodbye Tories/Goodbye Labour. STARMER is another of their POODLES.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 5, 2024 11:29:02 GMT
Thank you for highlighting all the murder victims of the Putin Regime … I have little time to post here … so it’s superfluous for me to repeat your claims.
As a neutral Humanist who is against murder, violence, censorship, terror and oppression against all people … and especially journalists and other whistle-blowers (see the history of my posts on this … and the last Forum … for confirmation) …. naturally I am saddened and equally devastated by these … and any murder.
Yes, LEST WE FORGET … the discussion Forum you pulled down and destroyed Vinny … in your bid to prevent FREE SPEECH and exposure of the REAL truth over Ukraine.
No moral high ground for you, Vinny … you are like Putin … trying to eradicate the TRUTH … and good journalism. … the voices of ORDINARY PEOPLE … VICTIMS …. WITNESSES.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 5, 2024 11:31:49 GMT
"The woman was wearing sexy clothes so I raped her, it's her fault" - Dublogic.
That's your argument in a nutshell Dub.
You're defending the indefensible.
Ukraine is an independent sovereign country which gave away its nuclear arsenal to appease Russia, only to be invaded. Putin has no right to do anything he's done.
He has also murdered journalists, opposition MPs and members of the Russian public with your wholehearted support.
Your moral compass is broken and your arguments are rubbish.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 5, 2024 14:47:44 GMT
Here is another reason Biden and his war-mongers are playing with fire …. Interview from June 2023. … So prophetic. www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2023/06/28/were-in-the-midst-of-a-coup-neocons-will-rig-2024-electionFrom the video in this Link. “Armstrong explains, “We are in the midst of a coup…” “We have all these people who have been neocons for 30 years. Even Ron Paul said recently that the neocons have been waging war for 30 years and have not won a one single one. This is what they live for. Look at the clip of Lindsey Graham saying this is the best money we ever spent killing Russians. How can you take pleasure in that statement “that this is the best money we ever spent killing Russians”. This is not defense. These are the words of a psychopath in my mind…
They are not about to accept anybody who is going to be against war. The neocons are in full control of the government—period. We are living in the time of a coup. The United States is not the free country you thought it was…” Armstrong also predicts that the neocons will rig the 2024 election so Biden (or some other neocon) gets a second term. Is there any way to stop this election rigging and fraud in 2024? Armstrong says, “I don’t believe so. Our computers show that holy hell breaks loose starting in 2025. I think the problem will be the cheating will be in everybody’s face this time.” Armstrong also says the neocons will try to start a war before the 2024 election so Biden will win because a wartime president has never lost an election. Armstrong says the cheating will be necessary because the real poll numbers for Biden are in the single digits and not the 40% approval ratings the Lying Legacy Media tells you. Armstrong contends Biden’s approval number is still stuck at 9.5% with his deadly accurate Socrates computer program, but the big reason for Biden and his crew to worry is the real inflation number. Armstrong says, “Inflation is subsiding a little bit, but it is basically still over 26%.” Armstrong says Biden’s approval numbers are so low and inflation is so high that they have to have war with Russia.
War is the reason they had to remove Trump out of the White House because Trump was against constant war. Armstrong adds, “No way they are going to allow a free election. It you think the CIA cannot rig the vote, I don’t know what planet you live on.” Don’t expect Fed Head Jay Powell to lower interest rates. It will be just the opposite. Armstrong explains, “What is Powell looking at? War is the number one cause of inflation. He can’t say because you people are dumping all this money into Ukraine, inflation is only going to go higher because then he is criticizing the government. So, he just says he’s looking at ‘international considerations.’ Look what the Vietnam war did. It broke the back of Bretton Woods. War is always the number one problem. The neocons only care about winning, and they do not care about the country. They do not care about your 401-k or your retirement. They could care less.” In closing, Armstrong warns, “ Russia is like a wild animal, and if it is cornered, it will attack.”
This means the whole thing in Ukraine could go nuclear if Russia is pushed into a corner. And what about all that debt the western world has built up? Armstrong says,
“They intend to default on all the sovereign debt. . . .I don’t see this succeeding. I think it’s all going to collapse. The reason why they are doing this is they realize they are losing power. They feel it slipping out of their fingers. The more that happens, the more they become aggressive. That’s what this is all about.” Interesting all this came out last June … and nobody here was listening. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 5, 2024 14:55:12 GMT
"The woman was wearing sexy clothes so I raped her, it's her fault" - Dublogic. That's your argument in a nutshell Dub. Oh dear … really scraping the bottom of the barrel, Vinnykins … concocting a ‘rape card analogy’ to try and win an argument about morality?? … and Jonksy ‘likes’ this?? … jeez … two desperate peas in a desperate pod! 😂 Laughable.🤣😫Sad … your debating skills have come to this. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 5, 2024 19:00:40 GMT
No, you're scraping the barrel.
What I said was true.
Your arguments are just like those of a rapist.
Putin withdrew from the Geneva Conventions in 2019.
He has been illegally attacking his sovereign neighbours for decades.
You support his attacks on his victims because you don't like them.
You don't mention the treaties he's in violation of, you don't talk about his war crimes, you ignore the Bucha massacre, you ignore the deliberate shooting of Ukrainian children by invading forces.
You support evil.
You are a liar, a fraud and a propagandist for a dictatorship.
And you haven't answered my questions.
Is he paying you to post rubbish arguments in his defence, or are you doing it for free?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 6, 2024 8:45:40 GMT
Care to share where I am lying in any of my posts?
Care to share proof … apart from accredited Links .. that what I write is NOT my own original work?
Stop dropping tripe .. and stick to dropping facts … that aren’t the imaginary scribblings of the 😎CIA, the EU and the Soros Posse!
… Time you stepped off your Fantasy Island … and processed some ‘reality’ what a nuclear conflict means. 🤯🤯🤯⚰️☠️☠️
⏳ Time is running out for these neo-Cons to ‘come to their senses’🤪. ⏳
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 6, 2024 9:08:35 GMT
Putin withdrew from the Geneva Conventions in 2019. He has been illegally attacking his sovereign neighbours for decades. So VP Biden and the CIA go into Ukraine in 2014 … secretly inject in NATO military advisors teaching terror campaigns to ultra-Right Nationalists to attack the Russian-speaking U. … and the Donbas and Crimea regions. They are suspected of engage in similar actions in Georgia and Chechnya, … likely also funded and armed by CIA and Zionist anarchists ….. thus breaking the conditions of the North Atlantic Treaty in all instances ….. and the UN. does Sweet F.A. - when Russia and other nations protest about these Cold War Washington Hawk controlled NATO Anarchists trying to stir things up … and destroy peace within Russia and around other Countries borders. When you see a U.N. so bullied and cowed by a CIA rogue State within the States … where even Presidents can’t control the activities of the CIA … what is the point of being a part of any ‘fake’ Geneva and U.N. Conventions in 2019 … that represent only 2 Countries interests after 9/11 ? … America and Israel. … the World changed completely after these rogue states within the States and Israel ‘got away with the duplicity of 9/11’ Neutrals like me now understand the EVIL that was secretly running the WEST after 2002 … that became emboldened as their grip on the Media and Internet tightened. …. using pawns like Vinny … to engineer CENSORSHIP. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 6, 2024 9:36:39 GMT
Nothing in your posts about Ukraine or the west are true.
Everything in your posts is propaganda.
Meanwhile a sovereign country has been under political attack by Putin for twenty years and armed attacks for ten.
Shame on you.
Every region of Ukraine speaks Russian, but they are not Russian.
Donetsk and Luhansk were stolen at gunpoint by Russian mercenary terrorists.
And you support genocide.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 7, 2024 4:27:06 GMT
There is no shame in educating you about the REAL FACTS of the whole Ukraine situation.
… you can call it “propaganda” and jump up and down with high blood pressure screaming hysterically … making all sorts of death threats …. and false allegations about posters here.
When the West steps back from the brink of nuclear war … and starts imposing serious Sanctions on Israel over Gaza and Ukraine expansionism … then we will know they can start to crawl out of their pit … and restore some integrity.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 7, 2024 5:27:10 GMT
If you want to know why a huge majority in Donbas, Donetsk and Crimea voted to be free of Kiev/Ukraine Army terrorism from 2014 onwards … This gripping disturbing Watch Dog Media footage (1hr 7 mins) …. explains all … from the Odessa Massacre onwards … to the build-up to Referendum Elections …. including public footage of the attacks of the Ukraine Army on civilian people in Mariupol … 4 years after a series of terrorist attacks from Azov and Western-backed thugs perpetrated the Odessa atrocity massacre back in 2010..
This confirms that the U.S. Government, NATO, the CIA, the EU, Israel and the Left Wing/Zionist-controlled MSM … and especially the BBC were lying to everybody.
Watch this …. and you will easily understand why the separatist vote steadily grew to be so high. ~ @ 94%.
Naturally, we will expect an apology from Vinny for trying to deceive the Membership.
…. It certainly explains why the Zionist-owned Youtube keeps trying to pull down this IMPORTANT documentary video SERIES. … and blocks/suppresses these videos from the Youtube and Google Search engines and why they won’t appear on most people’s FEEDs.
Catch this film now … before Vinny’s CIA/Israeli crew gets it removed again.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 7, 2024 8:11:47 GMT
When you get your "news" from genocide supporters, you are not only completely wrong but an aid to evil.
Nothing you've posted about Ukraine is remotely true.
Ukraine have only two choices at the moment, fight or die.
All it takes for this war to end is for Putin to stop attacking them and withdraw from all occupied territories including Donetsk Luhansk and Crimea.
Referendums at gunpoint are not referendums.
Invaders out.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 8, 2024 3:10:36 GMT
Stop talking tripe, Vinny … this is all footage filmed by ordinary people living in Ukraine at the time … presented raw and unadulterated … without filtration by a corrupt Western News Service heavily manipulated by Israeli/CIA factions manipulating our Deep State.
…. YOU are the one who has undergone MK Ultra brain-washing by the propaganda units of the CIA/Mossad running this joint Project sh*t-show designed since 2014 to destroy Humanity.
The approval you give to throw money and guns into the Ukraine AND Gaza … instead of initiating PEACE TALKS … shows the disgusting lack of real concern you have for Humanity.
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