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Post by buccaneer on Mar 18, 2024 22:40:52 GMT
The conservatives dug their own grave when they appointed Rishi Sunak. They must reap what they sow now. Ever since the coup against Boris and the media witch hunt that forced him out the conservatives have gone down the gurgler.
What the conservatives needed was direction and purpose, not impotence and insignificance.
Keir Starmer is only going to be Rishi 2.0 with an added abundance of identity politics and woke initiatives layered on top.
No wonder the Great British public are apathetic to politics in the UK right now.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 18, 2024 22:49:35 GMT
If Labour had been in power during Covid, etc. they'd now be facing annihilation. Unfortunately we can only go on how parties and people perform in real life, and 14 years of Tories in charge has brought the UK to the condition it is in now. Labour has not had its hands on UK levers of power since the Tories duped the LibDems into coalition. Fantasising or scaremongering over what Labour would have done compared to how the Tories actually did, seems pointless. My hope is that if Labour form the next government, it doesn’t get too bid a majority, and that it’s learned from watching the damage and hardship that weak and often dishonest leadership have caused the country… LOL! 
I wonder what Labour supporters will be blaming when it turns out to be even more shite than it is now?
Not that I really wonder because they'll still be blaming the Tories even after three terms of Labour.
Hell, today I was listening to some thick Labour MP still blaming everything on Mrs T.
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 18, 2024 23:34:09 GMT
The Tories have created their own demise, and they have all been guilty of it David Cameron, Teressa May, Boris Johnson, the worst Prime Minister in UK history ( Liz Truss ) and Rishi Sunak.
We now have a situation where the NHS is struggling, children waith MONTHS for urgent appointments with mental health problems, one fifth of all local authorities are at risk of bankruptcy, living standards have gone down, growth has been pathetic for years, we are in recession.
It looks like the Tories are doomed, but yes its true, if Labour take over later this year, the finances are a mess, there s no money, and no growth, therefore no prospect of any money. A Labour government later this year will ( thankfully ) have very different priorities, but will sadly be very much restricted as to what they can do.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 19, 2024 0:04:01 GMT
The Tories have created their own demise, and they have all been guilty of it David Cameron, Teressa May, Boris Johnson, the worst Prime Minister in UK history ( Liz Truss ) and Rishi Sunak. We now have a situation where the NHS is struggling, children waith MONTHS for urgent appointments with mental health problems, one fifth of all local authorities are at risk of bankruptcy, living standards have gone down, growth has been pathetic for years, we are in recession. It looks like the Tories are doomed, but yes its true, if Labour take over later this year, the finances are a mess, there s no money, and no growth, therefore no prospect of any money. A Labour government later this year will ( thankfully ) have very different priorities, but will sadly be very much restricted as to what they can do. Thats the fucking problem fiddles when we have a non tory government in power...And only a total mentally challenged dumfuck will see things getting better under a labour infestation. And as for labour being restricted when has that ever stopped them pissing OUR money against the wall?...I do hope that Hunt leaves an IOU in the safe as that would be poetic justice.. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 19, 2024 1:15:30 GMT
The Tories have created their own demise, and they have all been guilty of it David Cameron, Teressa May, Boris Johnson, the worst Prime Minister in UK history ( Liz Truss ) and Rishi Sunak. We now have a situation where the NHS is struggling, children waith MONTHS for urgent appointments with mental health problems, one fifth of all local authorities are at risk of bankruptcy, living standards have gone down, growth has been pathetic for years, we are in recession. It looks like the Tories are doomed, but yes its true, if Labour take over later this year, the finances are a mess, there s no money, and no growth, therefore no prospect of any money. A Labour government later this year will ( thankfully ) have very different priorities, but will sadly be very much restricted as to what they can do. Thats the fucking problem fiddles when we have a non tory government in power...And only a total mentally challenged dumfuck will see things getting better under a labour infestation. And as for labour being restricted when has that ever stopped them pissing OUR money against the wall?...I do hope that Hunt leaves an IOU in the safe as that would be poetic justice.. A real tory Government? economic growth slowed under Thatcher. Annual real GDP growth per capita in the UK fell to 2.09 percent during the 1980s and early ’90s. Since Thatcher’s rule, each subsequent government has underperformed its predecessor in terms of growth. Household income lagged behind GDP for most of the country, with incomes falling for the poorest. Household debt increased from 37 percent to 70 percent of GDP as people began to rely on credit to spend money; this same household debt would go on to worsen the effects of the 2008 financial crash. Unemployment hit 9.5 percent by April 1984 — the highest joblessness rate in postwar history and far above some of the highest estimates for the unemployment likely to be caused by COVID-19. None of this suggests a healthy economy. Thatcher’s policies also helped to wipe out 15 percent of the UK’s industrial base in just a few years. Previously stable jobs in mining, manufacturing, steel, and more disappeared, and with that came the deaths of the communities that relied on those jobs. In Thatcher’s first two years in power, Scotland lost a staggering 20 percent of its workforce. De-industrialization disproportionately hit the North, the Midlands, and the home nations other than England — places that the prime minister then failed to invest in or support to develop new industries. |
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Post by ratcliff on Mar 19, 2024 1:40:10 GMT
Thats the fucking problem fiddles when we have a non tory government in power...And only a total mentally challenged dumfuck will see things getting better under a labour infestation. And as for labour being restricted when has that ever stopped them pissing OUR money against the wall?...I do hope that Hunt leaves an IOU in the safe as that would be poetic justice.. A real tory Government? economic growth slowed under Thatcher. Annual real GDP growth per capita in the UK fell to 2.09 percent during the 1980s and early ’90s. Since Thatcher’s rule, each subsequent government has underperformed its predecessor in terms of growth. Household income lagged behind GDP for most of the country, with incomes falling for the poorest. Household debt increased from 37 percent to 70 percent of GDP as people began to rely on credit to spend money; this same household debt would go on to worsen the effects of the 2008 financial crash. Unemployment hit 9.5 percent by April 1984 — the highest joblessness rate in postwar history and far above some of the highest estimates for the unemployment likely to be caused by COVID-19. None of this suggests a healthy economy. Thatcher’s policies also helped to wipe out 15 percent of the UK’s industrial base in just a few years. Previously stable jobs in mining, manufacturing, steel, and more disappeared, and with that came the deaths of the communities that relied on those jobs. In Thatcher’s first two years in power, Scotland lost a staggering 20 percent of its workforce. De-industrialization disproportionately hit the North, the Midlands, and the home nations other than England — places that the prime minister then failed to invest in or support to develop new industries. You certainly google some strange websites to cut and paste from , no wonder you never attribute them Jacobin is a leading voice of the American left, offering socialist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 19, 2024 2:28:08 GMT
A real tory Government? economic growth slowed under Thatcher. Annual real GDP growth per capita in the UK fell to 2.09 percent during the 1980s and early ’90s. Since Thatcher’s rule, each subsequent government has underperformed its predecessor in terms of growth. Household income lagged behind GDP for most of the country, with incomes falling for the poorest. Household debt increased from 37 percent to 70 percent of GDP as people began to rely on credit to spend money; this same household debt would go on to worsen the effects of the 2008 financial crash. Unemployment hit 9.5 percent by April 1984 — the highest joblessness rate in postwar history and far above some of the highest estimates for the unemployment likely to be caused by COVID-19. None of this suggests a healthy economy. Thatcher’s policies also helped to wipe out 15 percent of the UK’s industrial base in just a few years. Previously stable jobs in mining, manufacturing, steel, and more disappeared, and with that came the deaths of the communities that relied on those jobs. In Thatcher’s first two years in power, Scotland lost a staggering 20 percent of its workforce. De-industrialization disproportionately hit the North, the Midlands, and the home nations other than England — places that the prime minister then failed to invest in or support to develop new industries. You certainly google some strange websites to cut and paste from , no wonder you never attribute them Jacobin is a leading voice of the American left, offering socialist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture.True Facts are facts where ever they Come from can you Deny anything in that article? |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 19, 2024 7:19:24 GMT
Thats the fucking problem fiddles when we have a non tory government in power...And only a total mentally challenged dumfuck will see things getting better under a labour infestation. And as for labour being restricted when has that ever stopped them pissing OUR money against the wall?...I do hope that Hunt leaves an IOU in the safe as that would be poetic justice.. A real tory Government? economic growth slowed under Thatcher. Annual real GDP growth per capita in the UK fell to 2.09 percent during the 1980s and early ’90s. Since Thatcher’s rule, each subsequent government has underperformed its predecessor in terms of growth. Household income lagged behind GDP for most of the country, with incomes falling for the poorest. Hmm - I never realised before that Tony Blairs government was even worse than John Major...  |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 20, 2024 12:12:57 GMT
A real tory Government? economic growth slowed under Thatcher. Annual real GDP growth per capita in the UK fell to 2.09 percent during the 1980s and early ’90s. Since Thatcher’s rule, each subsequent government has underperformed its predecessor in terms of growth. Household income lagged behind GDP for most of the country, with incomes falling for the poorest. Hmm - I never realised before that Tony Blairs government was even worse than John Major... Of Course that means the toryBrexit Government is worst ever🤔🤔 Is worse |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 20, 2024 16:26:09 GMT
Yes - the UK has suffered a staggering collapse in growth since the Blair Government. The Tories following New Labour policies have not attempted to turn things around.
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