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Post by Vinny on Mar 13, 2024 21:59:09 GMT
Labour actually did something good! Who knew!?
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 22:06:12 GMT
It’ll probably be back in 50 years time .
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 13, 2024 22:22:16 GMT
Labour actually did something good! Who knew!? and yet here we are in 2024 and they want to bring it back.. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 13, 2024 23:30:01 GMT
Labour’s Islamic blasphemy law. Outlawing ‘Islamophobia’ would turn criticism of Islamic extremism into a crime. Since the APPG (All party parliamentary group) issued its definition of Islamophobia in 2018, and most of the UK’s party-political establishment then adopted it, Islamocensorship has been further emboldened. We’ve seen a film pulled from cinemas across the UK for promoting the Shia interpretation of Islam. We’ve seen a teacher in Batley forced into hiding for showing a cartoon of Muhammad during a religious-studies class. And we’ve seen an autistic schoolboy in Wakefield hauled before local clerics for a dressing down, after he lightly scuffed a Koran. An informal regime of Islamocensorship has now consolidated and justified itself in the UK in the name of combating ‘Islamophobia’. Rather than challenge this constriction of thought and speech, Labour is cheering it on. Its embrace of the APPG definition of Islamophobia – which would likely be introduced into law if and when it enters government – is far more concerning than the stupid things Lee Anderson has said. It threatens to turn criticism of Islamism into a crime. It would represent an astonishing capitulation to theocratic extremists. link
Is this really what lefties envisaged when they heralded a new age of multiculturalism.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 23:58:07 GMT
Labour’s Islamic blasphemy law. Outlawing ‘Islamophobia’ would turn criticism of Islamic extremism into a crime. Since the APPG (All party parliamentary group) issued its definition of Islamophobia in 2018, and most of the UK’s party-political establishment then adopted it, Islamocensorship has been further emboldened. We’ve seen a film pulled from cinemas across the UK for promoting the Shia interpretation of Islam. We’ve seen a teacher in Batley forced into hiding for showing a cartoon of Muhammad during a religious-studies class. And we’ve seen an autistic schoolboy in Wakefield hauled before local clerics for a dressing down, after he lightly scuffed a Koran. An informal regime of Islamocensorship has now consolidated and justified itself in the UK in the name of combating ‘Islamophobia’. Rather than challenge this constriction of thought and speech, Labour is cheering it on. Its embrace of the APPG definition of Islamophobia – which would likely be introduced into law if and when it enters government – is far more concerning than the stupid things Lee Anderson has said. It threatens to turn criticism of Islamism into a crime. It would represent an astonishing capitulation to theocratic extremists. link
Is this really what lefties envisaged when they heralded a new age of multiculturalism. Yes . As we spiral into the wokeist worm hole we will find people who criticise the far right culture of Islam being accused of being far right . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 14, 2024 0:17:04 GMT
Labour’s Islamic blasphemy law. Outlawing ‘Islamophobia’ would turn criticism of Islamic extremism into a crime. Since the APPG (All party parliamentary group) issued its definition of Islamophobia in 2018, and most of the UK’s party-political establishment then adopted it, Islamocensorship has been further emboldened. We’ve seen a film pulled from cinemas across the UK for promoting the Shia interpretation of Islam. We’ve seen a teacher in Batley forced into hiding for showing a cartoon of Muhammad during a religious-studies class. And we’ve seen an autistic schoolboy in Wakefield hauled before local clerics for a dressing down, after he lightly scuffed a Koran. An informal regime of Islamocensorship has now consolidated and justified itself in the UK in the name of combating ‘Islamophobia’. Rather than challenge this constriction of thought and speech, Labour is cheering it on. Its embrace of the APPG definition of Islamophobia – which would likely be introduced into law if and when it enters government – is far more concerning than the stupid things Lee Anderson has said. It threatens to turn criticism of Islamism into a crime. It would represent an astonishing capitulation to theocratic extremists. link
Is this really what lefties envisaged when they heralded a new age of multiculturalism. Yes . As we spiral into the wokeist worm hole we will find people who criticise the far right culture of Islam being accused of being far right . I think just as historians today look back to the Victorian age with pride, historians of the future will look back to the early 21st century and say, what on earth went wrong. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 14, 2024 11:09:29 GMT
Labour actually did something good! Who knew!? You know why they did it, right?
It was to demote Christianity from its historical status as the established religion of the country and place it on a par with with Judaism, Mohammedism etc, none of which were subject to the existing laws against blasphemy and blasphemous libel.
You shouldn't consider it as a 'win'.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 14, 2024 11:15:45 GMT
Labour’s Islamic blasphemy law. Outlawing ‘Islamophobia’ would turn criticism of Islamic extremism into a crime. Since the APPG (All party parliamentary group) issued its definition of Islamophobia in 2018, and most of the UK’s party-political establishment then adopted it, Islamocensorship has been further emboldened. We’ve seen a film pulled from cinemas across the UK for promoting the Shia interpretation of Islam. We’ve seen a teacher in Batley forced into hiding for showing a cartoon of Muhammad during a religious-studies class. And we’ve seen an autistic schoolboy in Wakefield hauled before local clerics for a dressing down, after he lightly scuffed a Koran. An informal regime of Islamocensorship has now consolidated and justified itself in the UK in the name of combating ‘Islamophobia’. Rather than challenge this constriction of thought and speech, Labour is cheering it on. Its embrace of the APPG definition of Islamophobia – which would likely be introduced into law if and when it enters government – is far more concerning than the stupid things Lee Anderson has said. It threatens to turn criticism of Islamism into a crime. It would represent an astonishing capitulation to theocratic extremists. link
Is this really what lefties envisaged when they heralded a new age of multiculturalism. Islamist extremists are free to fuck off to Saudi Arabia, they contribute nothing to society. All they do is supply hate, intolerance and mind poisoning propaganda to children. It's high time Labour stood up to them instead of trying to get their vote. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 14, 2024 12:00:15 GMT
Labour actually did something good! Who knew!? You know why they did it, right?
It was to demote Christianity from its historical status as the established religion of the country and place it on a par with with Judaism, Mohammedism etc, none of which were subject to the existing laws against blasphemy and blasphemous libel.
You shouldn't consider it as a 'win'.
What’s so good about a modern country having an established religion? Religion and politics can prove to be a driver of evil, intolerance and violence — compare the different status of religion in Iran, Israel and the USA. Personally, I’d support a Disestablishmentarian vote and remove clerics from Parliament as a start… |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 14, 2024 12:09:50 GMT
You know why they did it, right?
It was to demote Christianity from its historical status as the established religion of the country and place it on a par with with Judaism, Mohammedism etc, none of which were subject to the existing laws against blasphemy and blasphemous libel.
You shouldn't consider it as a 'win'.
What’s so good about a modern country having an established religion? Religion and politics can prove to be a driver of evil, intolerance and violence — compare the different status of religion in Iran, Israel and the USA. Personally, I’d support a Disestablishmentarian vote and remove clerics from Parliament as a start… What about religious politicians? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 14, 2024 12:11:36 GMT
@pp: I don't disagree, in principle. However any such steps should be taken only if they can be shown to have intrinsic value of their own, and not just as a way of pandering to fractious minorities.
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Post by patman post on Mar 14, 2024 12:12:27 GMT
What’s so good about a modern country having an established religion? Religion and politics can prove to be a driver of evil, intolerance and violence — compare the different status of religion in Iran, Israel and the USA. Personally, I’d support a Disestablishmentarian vote and remove clerics from Parliament as a start… What about religious politicians? Indeed… |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 14, 2024 12:23:51 GMT
What about religious politicians? Indeed… Point is religion will always permeate politics while religion is an issue . A few CofE bishops in the HOL isn’t going to make a difference. 50 Islamist MPs would. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 14, 2024 18:00:21 GMT
Point is religion will always permeate politics while religion is an issue . A few CofE bishops in the HOL isn’t going to make a difference. 50 Islamist MPs would. The point being that the MPs would have been voted in, while the clerics get their seats as part of the job… |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 14, 2024 22:32:12 GMT
Point is religion will always permeate politics while religion is an issue . A few CofE bishops in the HOL isn’t going to make a difference. 50 Islamist MPs would. The point being that the MPs would have been voted in, while the clerics get their seats as part of the job… That doesn’t make the MPs any less dangerous or any less influential. |
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