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Post by ratcliff on Mar 14, 2024 16:57:51 GMT
Of course there are anomalies but you cannot define male or female by the anomalies. You are claiming that we should define a biological male as female on demand because some people are partly male or partly female . Its illogical nonsense but unfortunately your head is too far up your own arse to notice it. You are part way there, anomalies indicate a difference to the norm. My point is that the human pro-creation system is flawed. I am aware that emotional feelings, produced by the 'non-logical' hormonal system, can and often do, -- remembering that this is the way the human system is designed to function, -- dominate thinking and actions.  So you're back to claiming to be an endocrinologist (quite apart from a pretend trick cyclist , a factory worker , a ''retrained'' professional GP surgery worker and anything else I've missed through laughing about your delusions) |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 14, 2024 17:03:29 GMT
You are part way there, anomalies indicate a difference to the norm. My point is that the human pro-creation system is flawed. I am aware that emotional feelings, produced by the 'non-logical' hormonal system, can and often do, -- remembering that this is the way the human system is designed to function, -- dominate thinking and actions. So you're back to claiming to be an endocrinologist (quite apart from a pretend trick cyclist , a factory worker , a ''retrained'' professional GP surgery worker and anything else I've missed through laughing about your delusions) Yes, the lunatics have taken over the asylum |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 14, 2024 18:21:33 GMT
In an article in the Evangelical Times Welby said that, when alone, he often talks to God ... in tongues. He claimed that God, over the next few days answers him ... through the mouths of people he associates with.
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Post by Orac on Mar 14, 2024 19:02:11 GMT
humm..it might be a dissociative disorder
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 14, 2024 19:12:27 GMT
I am fine with atheists, however I have a BIG problem when a man of the cloth 'Archbishop' who betrays his 'Boss' employer.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 14, 2024 19:15:57 GMT
Not a bad little number peddling something you don't really believe in...
It means that the annual pay of the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, will remain at £85,070 for the next year. The salary of a diocesan bishop will stick at £46,180, and the benchmark stipend for a parish vicar will stay at £27,000.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 14, 2024 19:26:45 GMT
I used to sail from the Hamble back in the 70s. I know that marina very well. Anyway, last I heard was this Welby chap invested in those giant video screens you get at pop concerts and was supplying them to large events. He's always liked a party. I used to go for the occasional drink in the Spinnaker just by the Hamble bridge also in the seventies and If recall quite close there was a great pub with a wonderful ploughman's called the Lone Barn I never once actually went into whatever was around the Hamble. We would drive down from Buckinghamshire, park up and then grab what we had with us to take to the boat, and once on the boat its like having your house with you. You can cook up all your food and eat onboard. You simply don't use roads with a boat. Anywhere you want to go to you either sail or motor over there on the boat. Often we would end up having lunch moored out from the Isle of Wight. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 14, 2024 20:01:19 GMT
Oh! how did you manage to work your first comment out LOL They are clearly a major hiccup in the human pro-creation system, get it? They are proof that the Human pro-creation system is not perfect, get it? Abnormalities. Keep trying you might wake up to reality in time. Of course there are anomalies but you cannot define male or female by the anomalies. You are claiming that we should define a biological male as female on demand because some people are partly male or partly female . Its illogical nonsense but unfortunately your head is too far up your own arse to notice it. I posted abnormalities, as with "babies born with an abnormal feature, characteristic, or occurrence". i.e. the proof that the human pro-creation system is far from perfect. For your self-limited point of view it would not be possible for nature to create a male or a female to feel they are in the wrong body. Yet it happens, and has apparently been happening for thousands of years. How do you define female homosexuality when it is usual for one female to take on the manly side while the other takes on the feminine side? Ditto with homosexual males. Some homosexuals have been prepared to die in order to be who they feel they actually are. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 14, 2024 20:08:19 GMT
You are part way there, anomalies indicate a difference to the norm. My point is that the human pro-creation system is flawed. I am aware that emotional feelings, produced by the 'non-logical' hormonal system, can and often do, -- remembering that this is the way the human system is designed to function, -- dominate thinking and actions. It is flawed because it is a work in progress and always will be. In many circumstances non-logical actions will take place but they tend to be logical in terms of the survival of the individual to both stay alive and to procreate and, on average, work. Logical thought however is being part of the survival process more and more for humans as societies become more complex and survival and procreation less clear as regards how to obtain them. The logic of course will depend very much on what the individual sees as the beneficial outcome. The problem with anomalies is that they represent no direct threat to any individual as an anomaly but they represent threats to the group identity of either male or female which in many parts of the complex societies we inhabit are quite important. Being neither one or the other creates no problems being specifically one can do especially if that is flexible and/or subject to too many attributes of the other. Lets start with the fact that the human brain cannot feel anything. It can only recognise the presence of feelings taking place in the body. Feelings are created by hormonal changes that are produced by the non-logical sensory system. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 14, 2024 20:21:15 GMT
You are part way there, anomalies indicate a difference to the norm. My point is that the human pro-creation system is flawed. I am aware that emotional feelings, produced by the 'non-logical' hormonal system, can and often do, -- remembering that this is the way the human system is designed to function, -- dominate thinking and actions. So you're back to claiming to be an endocrinologist (quite apart from a pretend trick cyclist , a factory worker , a ''retrained'' professional GP surgery worker and anything else I've missed through laughing about your delusions) You just gave me a really good laugh at your delusions ^^^ , so thanks. Endocrinology is a good explanation of the complexity of the human condition. Endocrinology is a branch of biology and medicine dealing with the endocrine system, its diseases, and its specific secretions known as hormones. It is also concerned with the integration of developmental events proliferation, growth, and differentiation, and the psychological or behavioral activities of metabolism, growth and development, tissue function, sleep, digestion, respiration, excretion, mood, stress, lactation, movement, reproduction, and sensory perception caused by hormones. With no direct reference to the logical system. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 14, 2024 20:29:28 GMT
It is flawed because it is a work in progress and always will be. In many circumstances non-logical actions will take place but they tend to be logical in terms of the survival of the individual to both stay alive and to procreate and, on average, work. Logical thought however is being part of the survival process more and more for humans as societies become more complex and survival and procreation less clear as regards how to obtain them. The logic of course will depend very much on what the individual sees as the beneficial outcome. The problem with anomalies is that they represent no direct threat to any individual as an anomaly but they represent threats to the group identity of either male or female which in many parts of the complex societies we inhabit are quite important. Being neither one or the other creates no problems being specifically one can do especially if that is flexible and/or subject to too many attributes of the other. Lets start with the fact that the human brain cannot feel anything. It can only recognise the presence of feelings taking place in the body. Feelings are created by hormonal changes that are produced by the non-logical sensory system. Of course but it can also consider a problem in logic and the logic that it will apply will be based on many factors including, but by no means limited to, the effect of a course of action on its body, its relations bodies and others if they can help the first two. Some of these judgements may have feelings, for various reasons, attached which will colour the outcome of the judgement but it may still be a decision partly based on logic and not on hormonal initiated feelings. As an extreme example is the self sacrifice to save others is a logical judgement made in part by feelings as the judgement has to be made, is there no other choice and what will be the outcome. The hormonal part of course will depend on other survival factors affecting that specific line of antecedents and that specific individual. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 14, 2024 20:47:44 GMT
So you're back to claiming to be an endocrinologist (quite apart from a pretend trick cyclist , a factory worker , a ''retrained'' professional GP surgery worker and anything else I've missed through laughing about your delusions) Yes, the lunatics have taken over the asylum No, you haven't quite made it yet  |
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Post by see2 on Mar 14, 2024 21:13:15 GMT
Lets start with the fact that the human brain cannot feel anything. It can only recognise the presence of feelings taking place in the body. Feelings are created by hormonal changes that are produced by the non-logical sensory system. Of course but it can also consider a problem in logic and the logic that it will apply will be based on many factors including, but by no means limited to, the effect of a course of action on its body, its relations bodies and others if they can help the first two. Some of these judgements may have feelings, for various reasons, attached which will colour the outcome of the judgement but it may still be a decision partly based on logic and not on hormonal initiated feelings. As an extreme example is the self sacrifice to save others is a logical judgement made in part by feelings as the judgement has to be made, is there no other choice and what will be the outcome. The hormonal part of course will depend on other survival factors affecting that specific line of antecedents and that specific individual. An extreme example of self sacrifice to save others is an emotional / hormonal decision. Not really comparable but a suicide bomber is the victim of their emotional system. Yes, feeling are picked up by the thinking logical brain, BUT there is a huge problem in the exchange, in that the logical brain does what it can with the incoming information but it definitely does not get it right all the time. As an easily recognised example of something that happens all to often is, take an example of two individuals in a heated argument based upon their different opinions, the actual outcome of which affects no one or anything, yet it can end up in physical violence. The reason it could end up in violence is because the non-logical sensory system is producing hormones that are treating the situation as it being a threatening one. One of the human problems is that too many people think they live in their logical brain because right or wrong the logical system usually makes the final choice. IMO few people are who they were born to be. Hormones make so many of the changes. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 14, 2024 22:29:15 GMT
Of course there are anomalies but you cannot define male or female by the anomalies. You are claiming that we should define a biological male as female on demand because some people are partly male or partly female . Its illogical nonsense but unfortunately your head is too far up your own arse to notice it. I posted abnormalities, as with "babies born with an abnormal feature, characteristic, or occurrence". i.e. the proof that the human pro-creation system is far from perfect. For your self-limited point of view it would not be possible for nature to create a male or a female to feel they are in the wrong body. Yet it happens, and has apparently been happening for thousands of years. How do you define female homosexuality when it is usual for one female to take on the manly side while the other takes on the feminine side? Ditto with homosexual males. Some homosexuals have been prepared to die in order to be who they feel they actually are. Not one word of your post refutes the point that a biological male is not a woman . Homosexuals are not trans gender. Strawman arguments and anomalies should define the group is all you have and they have been refuted time and time again. Back to the sandpit with you . |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2024 23:47:05 GMT
The usual suspects are obsessed with the issue, which most of us don't really give a shit about. It matters only in their own heads as they anguish about the loss of some perfect, but mythical, white, Christian nation where there were no gay people, and where we all celebrated Empire Day Do you honestly believe Islam gives a damn about some race-baiting gender-bender lefty?
I understand, with you being a lefty, that you have to follow orders and support Islam whilst shitting all over the working class white people who told you to fk off over the years (you had to rely on Blairism and corporate globalist backing to get New Labour elected), but is it possible for you to be honest about it? If you think I ever relied on New Labour, you clearly lack the insight to do anything other than talk out of your arse. An orifice pf choice which behaps explains why you talk so much shit. |
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So you're back to claiming to be an endocrinologist (quite apart from a pretend trick cyclist , a factory worker , a ''retrained'' professional GP surgery worker and anything else I've missed through laughing about your delusions)
