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Post by Bentley on Mar 11, 2024 15:29:12 GMT
Bully for you . I believe that anyone who makes a claim that is so obviously false that it’s delusional should be seen as someone making a claim so obviously false that they must be delusional. Of course it’s up to the electorate . That’s bleeding obvious . Are Christians delusional in your view? That’s not an uncommon opinion. However no one who believes that a man can become a woman because he feels like it has no business calling any religion or cult delusional. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 11, 2024 15:32:24 GMT
Are Christians delusional in your view? That’s not an uncommon opinion. Ok, but what is your opinion? |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 11, 2024 15:35:24 GMT
That’s not an uncommon opinion. Ok, but what is your opinion? My opinion doesn’t matter one jot . Neither does my opinion on whether a man can become a woman if they feel like it . Its not a matter of opinion , it’s a biological fact that they cannot . |
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Post by ratcliff on Mar 11, 2024 15:38:38 GMT
If you were going to have open heart surgery today, and your surgeon was the above would you be ok with that? No. What does it bring to the table in regards to being an MP. Answer, nothing. MPs should be well rounded people, educated, experience in life, businessman, employed, a parent, older, there should be an age limit, that only over thirties can be an MP. Even that might be too young, maturity really starts about 35. Can things get worse?, its guaranteed with people like that, especially with a lot of them. There will be bills and voting for free packets of quavers, tik tok etc, im kidding, but im sure you get it. What is about autistic people that makes you think they are unsuitable for the job of a surgeon? Or that they can't be well rounded people, educated, experience in life, businessman, employed, a parent? What is it about those saying they are autistic/neurodivergent/on the spectrum/ADHD (or whatever the trendy label is this week) that they seem constantly to want to scream victimhood and that they are so 'special'? A bookshop author talk I went to recently had the author professing her presence on the ''spectrum'' from the rooftops and claiming that Jane Austen's Mr Darcy was ''quite obviously an autistic character '' and how progressive Austen was in writing in such a character. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 11, 2024 15:41:29 GMT
Ok, but what is your opinion? My opinion doesn’t matter one jot . Neither does my opinion on whether a man can become a woman if they feel like it . Its not a matter of opinion , it’s a biological fact that they cannot . It does matter if you're suggesting that being delusional makes someone unfit for public office. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 11, 2024 15:42:13 GMT
What is about autistic people that makes you think they are unsuitable for the job of a surgeon? Or that they can't be well rounded people, educated, experience in life, businessman, employed, a parent? What is it about those saying they are autistic/neurodivergent/on the spectrum/ADHD (or whatever the trendy label is this week) that they seem constantly to want to scream victimhood and that they are so 'special'? A bookshop author talk I went to recently had the author professing her presence on the ''spectrum'' from the rooftops and claiming that Jane Austen's Mr Darcy was ''quite obviously an autistic character '' and how progressive Austen was in writing in such a character. Would you rather they stayed silent? |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 11, 2024 15:47:57 GMT
My opinion doesn’t matter one jot . Neither does my opinion on whether a man can become a woman if they feel like it . Its not a matter of opinion , it’s a biological fact that they cannot . It does matter if you're suggesting that being delusional makes someone unfit for public office. No it doesn’t. What you need to come to terms with is if you agree that a man can become a woman on demand then you are delusional as a follower of the Flying Spaghetti Monster because they obviously cannot . You can’t refute that by claiming followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster are delusion. |
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Post by ratcliff on Mar 11, 2024 15:48:41 GMT
What is it about those saying they are autistic/neurodivergent/on the spectrum/ADHD (or whatever the trendy label is this week) that they seem constantly to want to scream victimhood and that they are so 'special'? A bookshop author talk I went to recently had the author professing her presence on the ''spectrum'' from the rooftops and claiming that Jane Austen's Mr Darcy was ''quite obviously an autistic character '' and how progressive Austen was in writing in such a character. Would you rather they stayed silent? I'd rather they just got on with their daily lives like those not claiming the trendy labels (ie the well rounded people, educated, experience in life, businessman, employed, parent) and stopped the victimhood and claims for special treatment . |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 11, 2024 15:53:18 GMT
Labour’s Witney candidate, 22, seeking to become second openly trans MP.....
A 22-year-old who could become Labour’s youngest ever MP and just the second openly trans member of the House of Commons has described the opportunity to reach Westminster as “mind boggling”.
Georgia Meadows, 22, found out she was Labour’s prospective parliamentary candidate (PPC) for Witney, which lies on the edge of the Cotswolds and is roughly 15 miles west of Oxford, on February 29 – Leap Day – and officially announced her candidacy on social media on Thursday....
In a Democratic country are. You saying a part of the population aren't allowed to Be a MP . And if labour won in that constituencie wouldn't that be a marjor victory for labour and the trans gender people. To overturn a Conservative majority . Meanwhile, back in the land of reality As the senior lecturer in mechanical engineering and energy studies explained it to me back in 1978 .... 'if you show any aptitude at being a candidate, the party send you to some bastion of the opposition to 'show willing' - so a labour hopeful will be told to campaign in Hartley Wintney, Henley on Thames or Witney, Oxford. All places so Tory they'd not stand a chance. And the Tory hopefuls get sent to Bolsover, Ebbw Vale, Islwyn, Bristol. All places that have been so red it's beyond belief. So that's what is going on here A no-hoper is being sent to be useful cannon fodder The last time such a no hooer got in, it was the SNP's Mhairi Black in Ed Balls' pitch. And the people decided they'd had it with the balls up. I'd say she's got a 10% chance. Depends how hated Rishi is. But if she gets in, someone in Tory HQ needs to consider a swim in the nearest river |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 11, 2024 15:53:46 GMT
It does matter if you're suggesting that being delusional makes someone unfit for public office. No it doesn’t. What you need to come to terms with is if you agree that a man can become a woman on demand then you are delusional as a follower of the Flying Spaghetti Monster because they obviously cannot . You can’t refute that by claiming followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster are delusion. You seem to be a lot more intolerant of certain delusions than others. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 11, 2024 16:11:54 GMT
Would you rather they stayed silent? I'd rather they just got on with their daily lives like those not claiming the trendy labels (ie the well rounded people, educated, experience in life, businessman, employed, parent) and stopped the victimhood and claims for special treatment . I believe I speak for most autistic people when I say I'd be happy for me and my kids to get on with our daily lives but society hasn't always made that easy for us: "The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has published new data that shows just 22% of autistic adults are in any kind of employment." www.autism.org.uk/what-we-do/news/new-data-on-the-autism-employment-gap"Around 1% of people in the UK are autistic, yet up to 15% of people hospitalised after attempting suicide have a diagnosis of autism." www.autistica.org.uk/our-research/research-projects/understanding-suicide-in-autism#:~:text=Studies%20have%20shown%20that%20up,have%20a%20diagnosis%20of%20autism. Now we could just stay quiet about all of this. Or we could encourage conversation, raise awareness and lift some of the barriers neurodivergent people face to improve their own lives and allow them to make the maximum contribution to society that they can to the benefit of everyone. I know which one I'd prefer. Free speech is a two way street, we've been silent for long enough thank you. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 11, 2024 16:32:55 GMT
No it doesn’t. What you need to come to terms with is if you agree that a man can become a woman on demand then you are delusional as a follower of the Flying Spaghetti Monster because they obviously cannot . You can’t refute that by claiming followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster are delusion. You seem to be a lot more intolerant of certain delusions than others. Younseem to be struggling to construct a counter argument. |
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Post by ratcliff on Mar 11, 2024 16:50:08 GMT
I'd rather they just got on with their daily lives like those not claiming the trendy labels (ie the well rounded people, educated, experience in life, businessman, employed, parent) and stopped the victimhood and claims for special treatment . I believe I speak for most autistic people when I say I'd be happy for me and my kids to get on with our daily lives but society hasn't always made that easy for us: "The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has published new data that shows just 22% of autistic adults are in any kind of employment." www.autism.org.uk/what-we-do/news/new-data-on-the-autism-employment-gap"Around 1% of people in the UK are autistic, yet up to 15% of people hospitalised after attempting suicide have a diagnosis of autism." www.autistica.org.uk/our-research/research-projects/understanding-suicide-in-autism#:~:text=Studies%20have%20shown%20that%20up,have%20a%20diagnosis%20of%20autism. Now we could just stay quiet about all of this. Or we could encourage conversation, raise awareness and lift some of the barriers neurodivergent people face to improve their own lives and allow them to make the maximum contribution to society that they can to the benefit of everyone. I know which one I'd prefer. Free speech is a two way street, we've been silent for long enough thank you. Do you (generic) and your kids (generic) live and operate independently without needing supervising carers? If the answer is yes , in my view you (generic) then get on with living without screaming victimhood and demanding that the society should tread on eggshells and pander to you (generic)despite claiming to be ''on the spectrum'' as it's this weeks bandwagon. Pull your big boy pants up and be the well rounded people, educated, experience in life, businessman, employed, parent.If you (generic) sit on the floor rocking , screeching and unable to communicate to the extent that you (generic) are unable to live independently or operate independently so that you (generic) need constant supervision you (generic) have a disability that requires specialist medical intervention and can never be the well rounded people, educated, experience in life, businessman, employed, parent. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 11, 2024 16:58:39 GMT
Is society the friend or enemy for those who embrace victimhood?
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Post by vlk on Mar 11, 2024 17:02:57 GMT
In a two party-system it is usually 10 years after which people start yearning for a change for the sake of change. Also after 10 years the governing party becomes very compalacent and arrogant but not long after 10 years also demoralised.
All this is happening now as was in 1997 and in 2010 just prior to the elections in those years when the dying governments knowing that they were going to lose anyway they had the attitude of "let it all burn".
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