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Post by bancroft on Mar 6, 2024 9:05:32 GMT
This is an interesting one. A hangover from 2010 to 2013 when special forces were active in Syria against ISIS. A murder charge is being brought against the SAS over shooting a chap that had surrendered though they argue suicide vests were around and they could not afford to chance this chap might have a bomb. They accuse military top brass of betrayal and wanting to look nice in front of the cameras. Now allegedly we had no ground troops in Syria so the govt might get egg on its face if this goes to court. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13160993/sas-soldiers-murder-charges-death-jihadist-syria.html |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 6, 2024 9:16:24 GMT
Cui bono?
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 6, 2024 9:41:09 GMT
Its madness that our troops are being persecuted for doing what they are trained to do . If the 'top brass' have a problem with it its for them to carry the can not those that stare death in the face .Basically if you don't want people to die don't send in the SAS , what did they think was going to happen ?
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 6, 2024 9:57:11 GMT
Its madness that our troops are being persecuted for doing what they are trained to do . If the 'top brass' have a problem with it its for them to carry the can not those that stare death in the face .Basically if you don't want people to die don't send in the SAS , what did they think was going to happen ? The monster is eating its own tail.
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Post by bancroft on Mar 6, 2024 14:10:21 GMT
Its madness that our troops are being persecuted for doing what they are trained to do . If the 'top brass' have a problem with it its for them to carry the can not those that stare death in the face .Basically if you don't want people to die don't send in the SAS , what did they think was going to happen ? It is one of those things about the troubles in N.I with prosecutions today which annoy me, they cannot prove which soldier shot their nearest and dearest beyond doubt (the guns will be destroyed or sold on) yet seem intent on just getting whoever it might have been. You can bet the only evidence is a bullet of the type used by the British forces and an eye witness trying to remember the face half covered by a helmet. This is why I think the Military brass should have got involved to close down some of these cases. |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 6, 2024 14:44:51 GMT
Sorry to burst any bubbles but our Armed Forces are not 100% squeaky clean, and there have been some rare instances of unacceptable behaviour.
British soldiers HAVE been involved in murder and torture, and there are some cases where British soldiers have broken international rules and broken the code of conduct as set out in The Geneva Convention.
As in for instance this doctor who lives not too far from me >> (BBC) "The partner at Mayford House Surgery, in Boroughbridge Road, was a captain and regimental medical officer of the 1st Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment in September 2003 in Basra when hotel receptionist Baha Mousa was hooded, handcuffed and beaten, dying 36 hours after being taken to the Army’s HQ"
In this particular case, the disgraced GP said that he had not noticed 93 separate injuries on the innocent dying Iraqi man.
These are in my opinion, isolated and rare instances of unprofessional, and unacceptable behaviour from what we like to think as a very professional army.
But these rare instances do exist, and in the case of the SAS here, the excuse that the surrendering suspect may have had a suicide vest is utterly pathetic, they could have told him to strip off. They should be chucked out of the army with no pension with a dishonourable discharge.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 6, 2024 15:01:59 GMT
Sorry to burst any bubbles but our Armed Forces are not 100% squeaky clean, and there have been some rare instances of unacceptable behaviour.British soldiers HAVE been involved in murder and torture, and there are some cases where British soldiers have broken international rules and broken the code of conduct as set out in The Geneva Convention. As in for instance this doctor who lives not too far from me >> (BBC) "The partner at Mayford House Surgery, in Boroughbridge Road, was a captain and regimental medical officer of the 1st Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment in September 2003 in Basra when hotel receptionist Baha Mousa was hooded, handcuffed and beaten, dying 36 hours after being taken to the Army’s HQ" In this particular case, the disgraced GP said that he had not noticed 93 separate injuries on the innocent dying Iraqi man. These are in my opinion, isolated and rare instances of unprofessional, and unacceptable behaviour from what we like to think as a very professional army. But these rare instances do exist, and in the case of the SAS here, the excuse that the surrendering suspect may have had a suicide vest is utterly pathetic, they could have told him to strip off. They should be chucked out of the army with no pension with a dishonourable discharge. The arsehole who sent our milititary to GW2 under false pretences and no UN mandate wasn't sqeaky clean either fiddles. Just another lefty lying arsehole who should have been sent to the Hague rather than receive a fucking knighthood..There was no such thing as ISIS prior to his killings of thousands of innocents.. |
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 6, 2024 19:08:05 GMT
Sorry to burst any bubbles but our Armed Forces are not 100% squeaky clean, and there have been some rare instances of unacceptable behaviour. British soldiers HAVE been involved in murder and torture, and there are some cases where British soldiers have broken international rules and broken the code of conduct as set out in The Geneva Convention. As in for instance this doctor who lives not too far from me >> (BBC) "The partner at Mayford House Surgery, in Boroughbridge Road, was a captain and regimental medical officer of the 1st Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment in September 2003 in Basra when hotel receptionist Baha Mousa was hooded, handcuffed and beaten, dying 36 hours after being taken to the Army’s HQ" In this particular case, the disgraced GP said that he had not noticed 93 separate injuries on the innocent dying Iraqi man. These are in my opinion, isolated and rare instances of unprofessional, and unacceptable behaviour from what we like to think as a very professional army. But these rare instances do exist, and in the case of the SAS here, the excuse that the surrendering suspect may have had a suicide vest is utterly pathetic, they could have told him to strip off. They should be chucked out of the army with no pension with a dishonourable discharge. Your not bursting any bubbles we all know war is not as portrayed in Hollywood . The lads and lads is what they were ,were sent into situation with the intel of what might be in front of them , that people could have bombs wrapped around them . Don't know about you but if it's my son and there is any doubt at all I'm telling him to shoot first and ask questions later . So why should we ask anyone else's son to do any different ? We can't expect our armed forces to operate with one hand tied behind their backs ,professionalism starts at the top with clear instructions on rules of engagement and operational procedure . The lads are but pawns . |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 6, 2024 20:01:03 GMT
I once about about a night time attack on an enemy occupied hill by "crack" British troops. Half way up a "scared witless" enemy soldier pops up out of his foxhole and surrenders ... and is promptly shot. Accepting his surrender would have been "dangerous" and slowed down the assault. The soldier could not be trusted to not change his mind and pick up his weapon and shoot the British soldier in the back.
Where was this supposed to have happened?
The Falklands.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 6, 2024 20:27:34 GMT
I once about about a night time attack on an enemy occupied hill by "crack" British troops. Half way up a "scared witless" enemy soldier pops up out of his foxhole and surrenders ... and is promptly shot. Accepting his surrender would have been "dangerous" and slowed down the assault. The soldier could not be trusted to not change his mind and pick up his weapon and shoot the British soldier in the back. Where was this supposed to have happened? The Falklands. ....Those were the words of General Westmoorland when he became overall commander of US grouund forces in Vietnam.. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 7, 2024 7:16:23 GMT
Thats the way to do it..... 'Hamas Hunting Club' set up by US soldiers within IDF are under review
A group of American soldiers fighting in Israel Defence Forces (IDF) units in Gaza are under review after creating a social media profile dedicated to sharing images of blindfolded Palestinian captees and calling for people to 'join the hunt' for Hamas. The 'Hamas Hunting Club' has published a slew of images since its creation in November showcasing dozens of blindfolded Palestinian detainees sitting on the floor with their arms bound together.
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 7, 2024 7:34:24 GMT
Thats the way to do it..... 'Hamas Hunting Club' set up by US soldiers within IDF are under review
A group of American soldiers fighting in Israel Defence Forces (IDF) units in Gaza are under review after creating a social media profile dedicated to sharing images of blindfolded Palestinian captees and calling for people to 'join the hunt' for Hamas. The 'Hamas Hunting Club' has published a slew of images since its creation in November showcasing dozens of blindfolded Palestinian detainees sitting on the floor with their arms bound together.
I can relate to that . If you can create a bit of fun when doing a crap job to raise moral what's the problem ? |
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