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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 6, 2024 5:53:58 GMT
A week or so back I was talking with a musician friend on What’s App about the switch of the Western music scale tuning from 432 Hz to 440 Hz …. it wasn’t a difference I was greatly aware of tbh
… but then this documentary of research popped up on my Youtube feed(confirming WA communications aren’t private)
… about an annoying low frequency hum that has been driving some people to the edge of sanity … and tragically … beyond it.
This interesting research project covers most theories around ‘The Hum’ …. to many, an imperceptible low frequency sound.
Check out the Comments section … where some people solved their ‘tinnitus version of low hum’ issue using a sinus decongestion solution.
If ear plugs don’t reduce the volume of your hum problem … then your solution is likely largely internal rather than external.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 7, 2024 10:40:54 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Mar 7, 2024 11:03:15 GMT
Look, we're all surrounded by power cables with electricity being provided on a frequency of 50 cycles per second. Harmonics are not being considered here.
The first harmonic of 50 hertz is 100 hertz, then 150 hertz then 250 hertz and then 350 hertz.
If you want to learn more about Harmonics you'll really need to study Nyquist.
But basically the harmonics from mains electricity can produce the low hum which some people can hear.
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Post by wapentake on Mar 7, 2024 11:10:00 GMT
It’s simple it’s Starmer ,but I think it’s more than 2% annoyed
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2024 14:39:49 GMT
With many people suffering from tinnitus it must be difficult to separate what is outside from what is within the person's head. The human ear cannot hear frequencies less than 20Hz. If airborne equipment is picking up sub-audio tones, I'm not surprised. The atmosphere is bombarded from earth with all sorts of radio emissions as well as actual noise, plus the bombardment from space from solar and inter-stellar radiation.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 7, 2024 15:28:17 GMT
With many people suffering from tinnitus it must be difficult to separate what is outside from what is within the person's head. The human ear cannot hear frequencies less than 20Hz. If airborne equipment is picking up sub-audio tones, I'm not surprised. The atmosphere is bombarded from earth with all sorts of radio emissions as well as actual noise, plus the bombardment from space from solar and inter-stellar radiation. If the volume decreases significantly or disappears totally when you apply foam earplugs … I’m guessing you can quickly ascertain it’s external … and not tinnitus-related? … with every ear being genetically different in design … it appears maybe this measure of 20Hz could be an average … and a small exceptional percentage of people might have a much lower frequency awareness? The sickness could arise in the form of vibrations in the skull creating migraines, … or vibration harmonics in the stomach causing IBS and stomach upsets. In my other thread on the effects of 2,3,4 and now 5G increased mobile mast emissions affecting health in some people … maybe certain frequencies also have the effect like microwaves on tin foil(ignition and burning) … so if super fine metallic pollutants (Al and Ba for instance)have been ingested or injected into a human or animal/ creature or plants too … where they can easily pass through the cell walls - especially very important powerhouse cells like mitochondria … those affected could be in serious trouble going near any harmonic frequency that generates heat and kills cells from the inside. Picking up on your last point … inter-stellar sources … I wonder if these mysterious frequencies might arise when UFO’s drop in and out of our airspaces in certain areas of the World?(witnesses often record low frequency buzzing electrical phenomena and people note the bent corn stalks in crop circle designs show nodes where internal super heating has occurred) … … maybe taking short cuts through portals or Dark Matter requires the traveller to employ certain frequencies that cut through Matter like a knife through butter?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 7, 2024 15:38:26 GMT
Look, we're all surrounded by power cables with electricity being provided on a frequency of 50 cycles per second. Harmonics are not being considered here. The first harmonic of 50 hertz is 100 hertz, then 150 hertz then 250 hertz and then 350 hertz. If you want to learn more about Harmonics you'll really need to study Nyquist. But basically the harmonics from mains electricity can produce the low hum which some people can hear. Yes you get harmonics depending on how the sinewave gets distorted, but the lowest will be the fundamental. If you were to get lower than 50 hz from 50 hz it would need a second source where you get a frequency of |f1 - f2| and f1 + f2.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 7, 2024 15:47:15 GMT
With many people suffering from tinnitus it must be difficult to separate what is outside from what is within the person's head. The human ear cannot hear frequencies less than 20Hz. If airborne equipment is picking up sub-audio tones, I'm not surprised. The atmosphere is bombarded from earth with all sorts of radio emissions as well as actual noise, plus the bombardment from space from solar and inter-stellar radiation. If the volume decreases significantly or disappears totally when you apply foam earplugs … I’m guessing you can quickly ascertain it’s external … and not tinnitus-related? … with every ear being genetically different in design … it appears maybe this measure of 20Hz could be an average … and a small exceptional percentage of people might have a much lower frequency awareness? The sickness could arise in the form of vibrations in the skull creating migraines, … or vibration harmonics in the stomach causing IBS and stomach upsets. In my other thread on the effects of 2,3,4 and now 5G increased mobile mast emissions affecting health in some people … maybe certain frequencies also have the effect like microwaves on tin foil(ignition and burning) … so if super fine metallic pollutants (Al and Ba for instance)have been ingested or injected into a human or animal/ creature or plants too … where they can easily pass through the cell walls - especially very important powerhouse cells like mitochondria … those affected could be in serious trouble going near any harmonic frequency that generates heat and kills cells from the inside. Picking up on your last point … inter-stellar sources … I wonder if these mysterious frequencies might arise when UFO’s drop in and out of our airspaces in certain areas of the World?(witnesses often record low frequency buzzing electrical phenomena and people note the bent corn stalks in crop circle designs show nodes where internal super heating has occurred) … … maybe taking short cuts through portals or Dark Matter requires the traveller to employ certain frequencies that cut through Matter like a knife through butter? Wind turbines are known to create long range infrasonic vibrations. They travel large distances through the earth. The harmonics of these would possibly be audible in some circumstances.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 7, 2024 19:25:51 GMT
That is also possible.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 7, 2024 21:02:08 GMT
Effect of Ageing on Hearing Thresholds in the Low Frequency Regionjournals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1260/026309208785844095#:~:text=These%20results%20suggest%20that%20older,a%20low%20level%20LF%20noise. "These results suggest that older people retain good hearing sensitivity in the LF region, in contrast to their often-degraded sensitivity at higher frequencies. Therefore, in LF noise evaluation, we should carefully regard the possibility that older listeners can perceive a low level LF noise." ************************************* Low frequency traffic noise for some older people can be so loud that it drowns out normal speech frequencies. There is a form of "deafness" that people begin to experience in their 50s in which LF environmental (traffic) noise can so overwhelm the hearing that one can't take in a word of what is bring said. It's as if the person speaking is not making any sounds as they speak.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 8, 2024 8:04:06 GMT
In those instances, their first call should be to a local hearing specialist who has skill in removal of 50 years of wax build up … my Mum went to have hers cleaned out … after a week of oil drops to loosen things …. and her TV volume dropped from 95% … to 50% after treatment. Miraculous change.
Some tinnitus issues might be eased by this treatment too.
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 16, 2024 1:34:13 GMT
Ok I have a question
In the video at the very start of this thread, a man says 'listen closely, do you hear this sound ? And holds a finger up'
Is the sound actually playing then ?
I ask because for about twenty, maybe thirty years I gave had mild tinnitus rising and falling with my heartbeat, and this has got worse since my mini stroke, to the point it impairs my hearing, but the first time I played that video I heard nothing but had a distinctly unpleasant nauseating sensation in my ribcage which ceased as soon as I pointed the phone away from me.
Coincidence ? Dunno
a good fifty five years ago maybe even more I first read of the lethality of an experiment carried out in Paris with an air compressor and a cannon, which pretty much partially liquidised the internal organs of the unfortunate individual who had discovered infrasonics.
As a teenager I built an instrument I would describe as a partial Moog synthesiser from component chips and circuits, and in it's lower frequencies I'd was able to create the same deeply uncomfortable sensations between about 50 and 250Hz
I chose not to amplify them, being attached to my liver lobes, but it did give me a finer appreciation of Kate Bush's 'Experiment 4' I think the track is called.....
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Post by jonksy on Mar 16, 2024 1:47:22 GMT
A great number of people can hear an annoyinf hum or whisling in their ears when their own hearing organs are blocked or they put their hands over their ears. The medical reason for this annoyment is tinatus that can easily be stopped in this day and age by the use of white noise technology
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 16, 2024 1:49:55 GMT
In reference to the hearing loss posts
As a twenty something I was a witness to almost a Con Air 'on any other day this would seem strange' moment. A fully charged Nitrogen cylinder charged to over 3600 PSI fell from its storage position outside the lab, and the regulator smashed off, exposing the high pressure gas through a hole in the top,
Gas at that pressure started to escape and the thrust was quite enough to move the cylinder which basically became a decent imitation projectile
It reached a speed sufficient to smash the plywood of the corridor end door when it impacted, and exhausted itself while stuck in the frame
Unfortunately I was stupid enough to think 'what the hell' and open my lab door. My right ear took a pounding akin to about ten of Izzy Osborne's drummers and a jet engine giving it their all and my hearing has never been the same since
Twenty years ago a hearing consultant told me my right ear is about five years older than my left in terms of hearing loss, this has been maintained as I have aged but the mini stroke or some side effects thereof gave made the difference worse,
In a sports stadium or crowded pub the white noise created by many voices washes out my ability to hear speech completely
I've been told by Specsavers that their £1000 a pop devices can help, but I remember the NHS audiometrist consultant telling me on several visits five years apart over decades such devices will be useless, who to believe I suppose
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