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Post by Totheleft on Mar 4, 2024 16:39:26 GMT
People detained under the Mental Health Act need urgent treatment for a mental health disorder and are at risk of harm to themselves or others. Over 6,000 people died by suicide last year in the UK – with rates rising by nearly 4% since 2014. But how can we help protect more people from taking their own lives? One proven method is restricting access to means – like controlling toxic substances and limiting the availability of weapons – which enable someone to complete suicide. IGunshot suicides account for 2.5% of suicides in England and Wales. This amounts to more than 100 deaths per year. link.springer.com › article Gunshot suicides in England | Social Psychiatry and ... - SpringerLink 307 male farmers or farm workers died by suicide or undetermined cause in the time period. The overall rate was 31.4/100,000 per year (95% CI 28.1-35.1). Deaths using firearms were over-represented (29% of farming deaths compared with 3.6% in the general male population) America online records. More than half of all suicides in 2021 – 26,328 out of 48,183, or 55% – also involved a gun, the highest percentage since 2001. Switzerland one third (33.6%) of male suicides in Switzerland are caused by firearms, compared with 9.7% in the rest of Europe. Records show no matter if you have easy access to guns or not thee responsible for a % of suicides there even more Sucides by gun them by crime in All the Country. I pointed out . |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 4, 2024 18:03:03 GMT
You have failed to demonstrate any reason to do that.
Meanwhile the number of people murdered with knives, hammers, screwdrivers, scissors and other basic implements are the majority of murders in our country. As we speak the government are looking at tightening the law regarding crossbows and I have opened a thread about that.
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 4, 2024 18:45:54 GMT
You have failed to demonstrate any reason to do that. Meanwhile the number of people murdered with knives, hammers, screwdrivers, scissors and other basic implements are the majority of murders in our country. As we speak the government are looking at tightening the law regarding crossbows and I have opened a thread about that. Murder has nothing to do with suicide why try and muddy the water . If you are trying to make a Comparison with crime like I said the countries I mention aLl suicides by Guns are higher them murders by guns .especially America it the number one in Suicide. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 4, 2024 21:12:18 GMT
Very limited number of cases of suicide by gun in the UK.
Thankfully.
You haven't made a case to replace the licence system with a ban.
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 4, 2024 22:34:32 GMT
Very limited number of cases of suicide by gun in the UK. Thankfully. You haven't made a case to replace the licence system with a ban. A 100+ unnecessary deaths isn't limited in any ones eyes .especially whem there could be positive steps to.lower it . |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 5, 2024 1:20:58 GMT
Your suggestion won't save a single life, all you'd do is remove a lot of people's fun.
One of my friends survived cancer a few years ago. There's not many sports he can do, but he can shoot and he's bloody good at it. He only shoots targets, he isn't hurting anyone, and membership of a gun club gives him the opportunity to socialise with other people and compete with others.
If you had to wear a colostomy bag every day, and there wasn't much you could do to have fun, you might feel differently.
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 5, 2024 7:06:01 GMT
It's hard enough already to own a gun legally. So most people who own guns are criminals.
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 5, 2024 20:16:11 GMT
It's hard enough already to own a gun legally. So most people who own guns are criminals. You do realise that there a lot more deaths in suicide then gun crime. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 5, 2024 20:17:20 GMT
Your suggestion won't save a single life, all you'd do is remove a lot of people's fun. One of my friends survived cancer a few years ago. There's not many sports he can do, but he can shoot and he's bloody good at it. He only shoots targets, he isn't hurting anyone, and membership of a gun club gives him the opportunity to socialise with other people and compete with others. If you had to wear a colostomy bag every day, and there wasn't much you could do to have fun, you might feel differently. Can you shut targets with Blank Cartridges? |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 5, 2024 21:34:41 GMT
How? Blanks are for starting races, scaring birds and theatrical prop usage.
To hit targets you need a live weapon and the further the distance the more power you need.
I recommend you go visit your local shooting club and meet people before you judge anyone.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 5, 2024 21:57:46 GMT
Your suggestion won't save a single life, all you'd do is remove a lot of people's fun. One of my friends survived cancer a few years ago. There's not many sports he can do, but he can shoot and he's bloody good at it. He only shoots targets, he isn't hurting anyone, and membership of a gun club gives him the opportunity to socialise with other people and compete with others. If you had to wear a colostomy bag every day, and there wasn't much you could do to have fun, you might feel differently. And put a great number of people out of work....Like gunshops, shooting ranges, clay pigeon clubs. ammo and sporting goods manufacturers and Wild life concervation |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 5, 2024 22:02:55 GMT
Shooting is worth £2 billion per annum to the UK economy and supports the equivalent of 74,000 full time jobs. Shooting is involved in the management of two-thirds of the rural land area. Shooters spend 3.9 million work days on conservation – that’s the equivalent of 16,000 full-time jobs. Two million hectares are actively managed for conservation as a result of shooting. committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/69762/html/ |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 6, 2024 1:47:02 GMT
Shooting is worth £2 billion per annum to the UK economy and supports the equivalent of 74,000 full time jobs. Shooting is involved in the management of two-thirds of the rural land area. Shooters spend 3.9 million work days on conservation – that’s the equivalent of 16,000 full-time jobs. Two million hectares are actively managed for conservation as a result of shooting. committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/69762/html/Typical right winger putting money before lives again Shooting is involved in the management of two-thirds of the rural land area Scotland 307 male farmers or farm workers died by suicide or undetermined cause in the time period. The overall rate was 31.4/100,000 per year (95% CI 28.1-35.1). Deaths using firearms were over-represented (29% of farming deaths compared with 3.6% in the general male population |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 6, 2024 2:45:35 GMT
Knife crime is the problem. But we won't want to tackle this problem for obvious reasons.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 6, 2024 4:33:54 GMT
Shooting is worth £2 billion per annum to the UK economy and supports the equivalent of 74,000 full time jobs. Shooting is involved in the management of two-thirds of the rural land area. Shooters spend 3.9 million work days on conservation – that’s the equivalent of 16,000 full-time jobs. Two million hectares are actively managed for conservation as a result of shooting. committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/69762/html/Typical right winger putting money before lives again Shooting is involved in the management of two-thirds of the rural land areaScotland 307 male farmers or farm workers died by suicide or undetermined cause in the time period. The overall rate was 31.4/100,000 per year (95% CI 28.1-35.1). Deaths using firearms were over-represented (29% of farming deaths compared with 3.6% in the general male population Typical lefty who wants to put thousands out of work.....And I had already pointed out to you that shooting is involved in the management of two-thirds of our rural land. You really are clutching at straws lefty old bean. And you get beat up on one aspect and then try and move it to the next idiotic notion of yours. Are you attmpting to state that those Scotish farmers wh have committed suicide would still behere if guns wee banned in Scotland? If you did a bit of research Scotland has more rigourus gun controls than England. |
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