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Post by wapentake on Mar 4, 2024 23:45:23 GMT
You don't believe that Muslims in Britain owe their first loyalty to the country they have chosen to live in? No. I believe there religion comes first, but I see no reason for conflict between the two unless we hate Muslims. Do you think a Jews god should come before his country? Absolutely wrong Zany and where Hitlers doctrine and military previously got it wrong”Got mitt uns”if there is a god he is with no one clearly. There is no place for religion being before the good of this country and it’s people since the majority here are not Muslim,this though is not a reason to say as you put it hate Muslims but to accept adherence to that faith above the best interests of the majority has nothing to do with hate but self preservation. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2024 23:52:00 GMT
No I don't. Your bigotry is appalling. It is literally the Quran.. Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)." Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …" It doesn't apply to Islamists, and Islamists can and do lie to non-muslims to push the cause. They have a funny moral system, which your quotes highlight. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 4, 2024 23:59:37 GMT
No. I believe there religion comes first, but I see no reason for conflict between the two unless we hate Muslims. Do you think a Jews god should come before his country? Absolutely wrong Zany and where Hitlers doctrine and military previously got it wrong”Got mitt uns”if there is a god he is with no one clearly. There is no place for religion being before the good of this country and it’s people since the majority here are not Muslim,this though is not a reason to say as you put it hate Muslims but to accept adherence to that faith above the best interests of the majority has nothing to do with hate but self preservation. In a democratic country people should be freely allowed to practice there Religion Not all Muslims are extremists around 1.8 billion Current estimates conclude that the number of Muslims in the world is around 1.8 billion. Muslims are the majority in 49 countries, |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2024 0:05:10 GMT
you do realise that following their god means your death?.. No I don't. Your bigotry is appalling. Your ignorance is very telling. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 5, 2024 0:11:39 GMT
Absolutely wrong Zany and where Hitlers doctrine and military previously got it wrong”Got mitt uns”if there is a god he is with no one clearly. There is no place for religion being before the good of this country and it’s people since the majority here are not Muslim,this though is not a reason to say as you put it hate Muslims but to accept adherence to that faith above the best interests of the majority has nothing to do with hate but self preservation. In a democratic country people should be freely allowed to practice there Religion Not all Muslims are extremists around 1.8 billion Current estimates conclude that the number of Muslims in the world is around 1.8 billion. Muslims are the majority in 49 countries, You obviously didn’t understand my post,but anyway saying the Muslims are the majority in 49 countries is relevant how? |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 5, 2024 0:24:36 GMT
In a democratic country people should be freely allowed to practice there Religion Not all Muslims are extremists around 1.8 billion Current estimates conclude that the number of Muslims in the world is around 1.8 billion. Muslims are the majority in 49 countries, You obviously didn’t understand my post,but anyway saying the Muslims are the majority in 49 countries is relevant how? Like I said not all Muslim are extremist Is your post saying that Im a democratic country people Shouldn't be allowed to.practice religion because that the minority in this in this Country believe there no God What is the.point of your post? |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 5, 2024 0:31:00 GMT
You obviously didn’t understand my post,but anyway saying the Muslims are the majority in 49 countries is relevant how? Like I said not all Muslim are extremist Is your post saying that Im a democratic country people Shouldn't be allowed to.practice religion because that the minority in this in this Country believe there no God What is the.point of your post? Perhaps TTL you’d like to explain what 49 countries having Muslim majorities is relevant even more can you cite any which are functioning democracies? |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 5, 2024 0:36:56 GMT
Like I said not all Muslim are extremist Is your post saying that Im a democratic country people Shouldn't be allowed to.practice religion because that the minority in this in this Country believe there no God What is the.point of your post? Perhaps uTTL you’d like to explain what 49 countries having Muslim majorities is relevant even more can you cite any which are functioning democracies? I've already made that point And what has them 49n Country's got to do with Democracy in this Country . Are you going to answer my question or not if you don't I want anewer yours |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 5, 2024 0:50:27 GMT
Perhaps uTTL you’d like to explain what 49 countries having Muslim majorities is relevant even more can you cite any which are functioning democracies? I've already made that point And what has them 49n Country's got to do with Democracy in this Country .Are you going to answer my question or not if you don't I want anewer yours Well if I need to explain that I’m really wasting my time, but I’ll try again can you see how the lack of functioning democracies in the Muslim world and western society make the two incompatible if as Zany maintains they can put their religion before country. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 5, 2024 1:32:03 GMT
I've already made that point And what has them 49n Country's got to do with Democracy in this Country .Are you going to answer my question or not if you don't I want anewer yours Well if I need to explain that I’m really wasting my time, but I’ll try again can you see how the lack of functioning democracies in the Muslim world and western society make the two incompatible if as Zany maintains they can put their religion before country. OK I see your point know But my point still stands not all Muslims are extremists like some try to make out .when they posts certain Sections of the Koran. I could easy find writings in the Koran and Haddifs that say Islam is a religion Of peace. What the vast majority of Muslims adour to in this Country. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 5, 2024 2:03:47 GMT
Absolutely wrong Zany and where Hitlers doctrine and military previously got it wrong”Got mitt uns”if there is a god he is with no one clearly. There is no place for religion being before the good of this country and it’s people since the majority here are not Muslim,this though is not a reason to say as you put it hate Muslims but to accept adherence to that faith above the best interests of the majority has nothing to do with hate but self preservation. In a democratic country people should be freely allowed to practice there Religion Not all Muslims are extremists around 1.8 billion Current estimates conclude that the number of Muslims in the world is around 1.8 billion. Muslims are the majority in 49 countries, Even the bits of that religion which are intolerant, violent, murderous? It doesn't matter how many people follow a religion, it matters what that religion says about treating those who will not follow it, and those it disapproves of. Those who believe in throwing gays off tall buildings, those who believe in killing apostates and blasphemers can be deported. We have no need for such bigots. Those who are not violent or hateful, inspite of hateful scriptures are ok. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 5, 2024 3:33:09 GMT
In a democratic country people should be freely allowed to practice there Religion Not all Muslims are extremists around 1.8 billion Current estimates conclude that the number of Muslims in the world is around 1.8 billion. Muslims are the majority in 49 countries, Even the bits of that religion which are intolerant, violent, murderous? It doesn't matter how many people follow a religion, it matters what that religion says about treating those who will not follow it, and those it disapproves of. Those who believe in throwing gays off tall buildings, those who believe in killing apostates and blasphemers can be deported. We have no need for such bigots. Those who are not violent or hateful, inspite of hateful scriptures are ok. I agree |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 5, 2024 7:27:37 GMT
Where are the statistics indicating irrational discrimination? Looks like there isn’t any either. There are statistics that are indicative of discrimination against ethnic minorties in the job market however. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 5, 2024 7:48:10 GMT
No. Right wingers in your description have a single aim. Muslim, includes a thousand different interpretations and views. If you said all right wingers are a threat to the UK I would dispute you as I would with All Muslims. Both have a specific world view and Both do not. Muslims do not all share ISIS view of the world. Right wingers do not all share Jacob Rees Moggs view of the world. both have diverse views. I didn't say they did, Your example was that right wingers were a danger to the country, thus putting all right wingers in one basket. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 5, 2024 7:50:59 GMT
No. I believe there religion comes first, but I see no reason for conflict between the two unless we hate Muslims. Do you think a Jews god should come before his country? Absolutely wrong Zany and where Hitlers doctrine and military previously got it wrong”Got mitt uns”if there is a god he is with no one clearly. There is no place for religion being before the good of this country and it’s people since the majority here are not Muslim,this though is not a reason to say as you put it hate Muslims but to accept adherence to that faith above the best interests of the majority has nothing to do with hate but self preservation. I think you'd have a hard job persuading any believer that their god comes second to their country. |
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