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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 16:07:54 GMT
Well like CO2 it has negligible effect at 100 parts per million but a significant effect at 1000 parts per million. So at 0.01% we do not have a problem worth mentioning at 0.1% we have disaster staring us in the face. Both are very small numbers and we are looking at with over 30,000 on the watch list we are at 3% which would effectively be a lost cause in terms of CO2. As you agree small numbers can have an overtly larger impact. Then the same is true for all minority extremists. But unlike Co2 we have seen virtually no effect from these extremists. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 16:13:16 GMT
Your knowledge of modern Muslims is sadly lacking. But more importantly you ignore the fact that most Muslims do not obey the Koran religiously. Anymore than do Christians obey the bible. We are back to the beginning I said we know what Islam says, you are saying that what it says is of no consequence as people have different interpretations, I would agree as a general rule but the difference is in what faiths say. Both have stuff we find both laughable and disgusting in todays world. I've not scene many women stoned to death for adultery in the last few years, seems to have fallen out of favour with Christians. I question if they really follow the bible. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 2, 2024 16:14:16 GMT
Well like CO2 it has negligible effect at 100 parts per million but a significant effect at 1000 parts per million. So at 0.01% we do not have a problem worth mentioning at 0.1% we have disaster staring us in the face. Both are very small numbers and we are looking at with over 30,000 on the watch list we are at 3% which would effectively be a lost cause in terms of CO2. As you agree small numbers can have an overtly larger impact. Then the same is true for all minority extremists. But unlike Co2 we have seen virtually no effect from these extremists. Indeed but then no others come close to the 3% that we have in Islam. It is the numbers of extremists in Islam that is the problem just as it was the number of extremists in Irish republicanism that was the problem. As you confirm in CO2 is your belief it is the size of the small percentage that makes all the difference and of course begs the question why is Islam such a prodigious producer of such extremists over all other faiths, beliefs, cults, political beliefs etc. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 2, 2024 16:15:35 GMT
We are back to the beginning I said we know what Islam says, you are saying that what it says is of no consequence as people have different interpretations, I would agree as a general rule but the difference is in what faiths say. Both have stuff we find both laughable and disgusting in todays world. I've not scene many women stoned to death for adultery in the last few years, seems to have fallen out of favour with Christians. I question if they really follow the bible. Who knows did Christ advocate stoning women for adultery? |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 2, 2024 16:27:15 GMT
The advantage of belonging to a group statistically more likely to be unemployed? Are the Irish diaspora in the UK more likely to be unemployed Ethnic minorities are, which according to you I am. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 2, 2024 16:37:32 GMT
Are the Irish diaspora in the UK more likely to be unemployed Ethnic minorities are, which according to you I am. I did not say that I said that you have the advantage that if you so wish you could describe yourself as an ethnic minority. As a whole group ethnic minorities have greater unemployment, the lie that that is due to 'racism' of any sort is exposed by the fact that there several ethnic minority groups who have higher levels of employment than the white British |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 2, 2024 16:42:00 GMT
Ethnic minorities are, which according to you I am. I did not say that I said that you have the advantage that if you so wish you could describe yourself as an ethnic minority. As a whole group ethnic minorities have greater unemployment, the lie that that is due to 'racism' of any sort is exposed by the fact that there several ethnic minority groups who have higher levels of employment than the white British "British citizens from ethnic minority backgrounds have to send, on average, 60% more job applications to get a positive response from employers compared to their white counterparts, according to researchers at Nuffield College's Centre for Social Investigation (CSI)." "Compared to White British applicants, people of: Pakistani heritage had to make 70% more applications Nigerian and South Asian heritage 80% more applications Middle Eastern and north African heritage 90% more applications" www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417 |
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Post by sheepy on Mar 2, 2024 16:44:47 GMT
I did not say that I said that you have the advantage that if you so wish you could describe yourself as an ethnic minority. As a whole group ethnic minorities have greater unemployment, the lie that that is due to 'racism' of any sort is exposed by the fact that there several ethnic minority groups who have higher levels of employment than the white British "British citizens from ethnic minority backgrounds have to send, on average, 60% more job applications to get a positive response from employers compared to their white counterparts, according to researchers at Nuffield College's Centre for Social Investigation (CSI)." "Compared to White British applicants, people of: Pakistani heritage had to make 70% more applications Nigerian and South Asian heritage 80% more applications Middle Eastern and north African heritage 90% more applications" www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417Which just shows unless you have the skills needed stay at home. Wherever that might be, or you will fall into the parasitic class. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 2, 2024 16:46:30 GMT
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Post by Orac on Mar 2, 2024 16:50:45 GMT
I don't agree that they are stoically neutral on this matter, they just express their position non-explicitly. An example of this might be regular and weepy articles on the difficulties experienced by (say) immigrants or asylum seekers , but no focused examination at all (or very little) of the immigration related costs experienced by non-immigrants. As I said. Support for those already here. I don't know why you keep reading things not said explicitly into what i'm saying to swerve violently away from the obvious. I was very vague. The BBC has presented (for instance) multiple features on the plight of those who ended up Calais that would leave an entirely naive viewer with the come away that they should be allowed into Britain. I don't recall any sympathetic programing at all centered around the opinions or plight of those who feel their communities have wrecked by the imposition of large numbers of 'boat people' |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 2, 2024 16:51:17 GMT
I did not say that I said that you have the advantage that if you so wish you could describe yourself as an ethnic minority. As a whole group ethnic minorities have greater unemployment, the lie that that is due to 'racism' of any sort is exposed by the fact that there several ethnic minority groups who have higher levels of employment than the white British "British citizens from ethnic minority backgrounds have to send, on average, 60% more job applications to get a positive response from employers compared to their white counterparts, according to researchers at Nuffield College's Centre for Social Investigation (CSI)." "Compared to White British applicants, people of: Pakistani heritage had to make 70% more applications Nigerian and South Asian heritage 80% more applications Middle Eastern and north African heritage 90% more applications" www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417Are names such as Kelly or Mahoney or O'Driscoll part of that study. If you live in Ireland and wanting people to work in Ireland with Irish people ask yourself a real question will there be a tendency to choose culturally similar people. If one is working in Nigeria with Nigerian people and with a Nigerian company will there be a tendency to select Nigerian names even if all other qualifications are the same? This is the real world where real people are making real decisions and in teh UK these decisions are no different to those decisions everywhere else. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 2, 2024 16:57:36 GMT
"British citizens from ethnic minority backgrounds have to send, on average, 60% more job applications to get a positive response from employers compared to their white counterparts, according to researchers at Nuffield College's Centre for Social Investigation (CSI)." "Compared to White British applicants, people of: Pakistani heritage had to make 70% more applications Nigerian and South Asian heritage 80% more applications Middle Eastern and north African heritage 90% more applications" www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417Are names such as Kelly or Mahoney or O'Driscoll part of that study. If you live in Ireland and wanting people to work in Ireland with Irish people ask yourself a real question will there be a tendency to choose culturally similar people. If one is working in Nigeria with Nigerian people and with a Nigerian company will there be a tendency to select Nigerian names even if all other qualifications are the same? This is the real world where real people are making real decisions and in teh UK these decisions are no different to those decisions everywhere else. So now you acknowledge that prejudice against ethnic minorities exists in the job market? |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 2, 2024 17:08:56 GMT
Are names such as Kelly or Mahoney or O'Driscoll part of that study. If you live in Ireland and wanting people to work in Ireland with Irish people ask yourself a real question will there be a tendency to choose culturally similar people. If one is working in Nigeria with Nigerian people and with a Nigerian company will there be a tendency to select Nigerian names even if all other qualifications are the same? This is the real world where real people are making real decisions and in teh UK these decisions are no different to those decisions everywhere else. So now you acknowledge that prejudice against ethnic minorities exists in the job market? Of course I do, prejudice and discriminatory practises exists in all groups both racial and cultural it is natural in many respects and to be expected. Often with sound reasons that are often recognised in law. |
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 2, 2024 17:10:50 GMT
Over the last ten years there has been a constant stream of assurance from the Tory government that "very soon we will rid rhe country of people who come from somewhere else," The word "illegal" has been incorrectly used since it is a lwgal right to ask for asylum, but the result of quotes from at least the last 2 Home Secs has blown up the general feeling, so easily blown up, that "others" are nor welcome.
Having allowed these 2 Home Secs to incite fingers being pointed at minority
groups as scapegoats , he suddenly stands in front of No. 10 and denounces division and othering,and the results they bring.
He and Tory policy should have prevented the problem from growing in the first place. Not endorsing it.
Who can be proud of Britain when the government has spent 15 years trying to "purify" itself by othering the whole of Europe and much of the Middle East and northern Africa?
Britain is today primarily an adversarial historical power which still thinks it is exclusive. Unfortunately so did its government which convinced just enoumgh people that it is exclusive, to do longterm damage to itself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2024 17:50:13 GMT
We are back to the beginning I said we know what Islam says, you are saying that what it says is of no consequence as people have different interpretations, I would agree as a general rule but the difference is in what faiths say. Both have stuff we find both laughable and disgusting in todays world. I've not scene many women stoned to death for adultery in the last few years, seems to have fallen out of favour with Christians. I question if they really follow the bible. Maybe it's because Jesus said, "whoever is without sin, cast the first stone". |
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