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Post by Vinny on Feb 28, 2024 14:30:28 GMT
Especially if large amounts of terrorism come from it.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 28, 2024 14:41:13 GMT
Especially if large amounts of terrorism come from it. Tbf, it rather depends which religion it is that's being criticised. As we all know, the feelings of aggressive Muslims are far more important than anyone else's, and according to Labour who rely on the Muslim vote, anyone who disagrees with this is a nasty bigoted islamophobe who should be charged with hate crimes.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 28, 2024 15:21:31 GMT
Christianity has been a target for decades . Now that Christianity is a spent force then one might assume that ‘ liberals’ might put Islam under the spotlight but they haven’t . Why? Charlie hebdo , Salman Rushdie and anyone else who offends Islam and can be found .
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Feb 28, 2024 19:31:37 GMT
All religions, as they enlarge their following and contend for power, fall under the influence of Ahriman. "Ahrimanic forces" desire power that brings with it control of the wealth of a community.
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Post by steppenwolf on Feb 29, 2024 8:58:45 GMT
Especially if large amounts of terrorism come from it. There is no law against criticising religions - we abolished all the laws of blasphemy many years ago. So anyone can say what they like about any religion and most people are aware of this and accept it. The one exception is the muslims who react angrily to anything that breaches their own religious laws. Well if they don't like it they should go and live in a muslim country with sharia law. But the muslims don't accept this and are trying to reinstate the blasphemy laws - but just for Islam. The way they're doing this is by their attempts to redefine the word Islamophobia. So an All Party Parliamentary Group of MPs decided to define Islamophobia: " Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness”. And this has been accepted by Labour and the Lib Dems - not the Tories though. But you can see what the APPG committee (headed up by a muslim of course) have done. They've cleverly conflated islamophobia with race - and criticism of people on the basis of race most certainly IS illegal. So it opens the way for Islamophobia to be illegal - just like antisemitism. In fact the two words, Islamophobia and antisemitism, are often used together as if they're both examples of racism and therefore illegal. This means that statements like "Islam is incompatible with British culture or British values" get held up (by the likes of Baroness Warsi) as examples of islamophobia and therefore racism, when it's a perfectly valid criticism of the religion of Islam, which denies freedom of religion or freedom of speech for example. Warsi was calling for the dismissal of Tory MPs and councillors for saying this. The problem is also with our badly thought out laws, where, in the case of religion, you cannot legally attack people for the beliefs of their religion. So you can't attack muslims for believing in, say, the inferiority of women. But you can attack the religion for preaching this doctrine. Which makes little sense to me. It's different for non-religious ideologies (such as Nazism) where you're perfectly entitled to lock up a N-a-z-i simply for being a N-a-z-i. But you can't lock up a muslim for believing that homosexuals should be executed. You can believe ANYTHING you like if it's part of your religion. Nonsensical. Religions are simply ideologies and if they're at odds with British law they should be illegal IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2024 10:42:46 GMT
Especially if large amounts of terrorism come from it. There is no law against criticising religions - we abolished all the laws of blasphemy many years ago. So anyone can say what they like about any religion and most people are aware of this and accept it. The one exception is the muslims who react angrily to anything that breaches their own religious laws. Well if they don't like it they should go and live in a muslim country with sharia law. But the muslims don't accept this and are trying to reinstate the blasphemy laws - but just for Islam. The way they're doing this is by their attempts to redefine the word Islamophobia. So an All Party Parliamentary Group of MPs decided to define Islamophobia: " Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that
targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness”. And this has been accepted by Labour and the Lib Dems - not the Tories though. But you can see what the APPG committee (headed up by a muslim of course) have done. They've cleverly conflated islamophobia with race - and criticism of people on the basis of race most certainly IS illegal. So it opens the way for Islamophobia to be illegal - just like antisemitism. In fact the two words, Islamophobia and antisemitism, are often used together as if they're both examples of racism and therefore illegal. This means that statements like "Islam is incompatible with British culture or British values" get held up (by the likes of Baroness Warsi) as examples of islamophobia and therefore racism, when it's a perfectly valid criticism of the religion of Islam, which denies freedom of religion or freedom of speech for example. Warsi was calling for the dismissal of Tory MPs and councillors for saying this. The problem is also with our badly thought out laws, where, in the case of religion, you cannot legally attack people for the beliefs of their religion. So you can't attack muslims for believing in, say, the inferiority of women. But you can attack the religion for preaching this doctrine. Which makes little sense to me. It's different for non-religious ideologies (such as Nazism) where you're perfectly entitled to lock up a very bad person simply for being a very bad person. But you can't lock up a muslim for believing that homosexuals should be executed. You can believe ANYTHING you like if it's part of your religion. Nonsensical. Religions are simply ideologies and if they're t odds with British law they should be illegal IMO. A very well explained post.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 4, 2024 5:15:22 GMT
Religion, in all its varieties, is a species of madness.
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 7, 2024 18:19:29 GMT
Especially if large amounts of terrorism come from it. there us no need for the ‘especially’ Case Law established beyond dispute that the UK’s RACE relations acts were useless in bringing a case of racial hatred against Nick Griffin when he publicly described Islam as a wicked, vicious faith. The case was thrown out, not least for foundering on the unpleasant fact the 23rd ? Mountain Waffen SS were blonde blue eyed mislems from yugoslavia. T Blair and co had to invent new law to bust him.
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