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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2024 21:09:42 GMT
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 28, 2024 21:32:13 GMT
Sorry, but you are still wrong The GLA is the statutory body governing London, with the Mayor as its head, yes it is true that The Statutory Body did give permission for the inflatable, but it does not mean that the inflatable was the responsibilty of Sadiq Khan, he had nothing to do with it. The other two organisations which gave permission were The Civil Aviation Authority and The Metropolitan Police, both of which also gave permission. But it does not mean that the Commissioner of The Metropolitan Police was responsible for the inflatable
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Post by Bentley on Feb 28, 2024 21:43:11 GMT
Sorry, but you are still wrong The GLA is the statutory body governing London, with the Mayor as its head, yes it is true that The Statutory Body did give permission for the inflatable, but it does not mean that the inflatable was the responsibilty of Sadiq Khan, he had nothing to do with it. The other two organisations which gave permission were The Civil Aviation Authority and The Metropolitan Police, both of which also gave permission. But it does not mean that the Commissioner of The Metropolitan Police was responsible for the inflatable Oh please stop this crap. It never would have happened without the endorsement of Kahn . You are embarrassing yourself .
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Post by jonksy on Feb 28, 2024 23:09:36 GMT
The balloon of Trump was cleared to be flown by (1) The Civil Aviation Authority (2) The Metropolitan Police and (3) The Greater London Authority. It was a protest stunt, we are still allowed to protest in this country, and I repeat that it had nothing to do with Sadiq Khan. On that same day that Trump visited London, there were 100,000 protestors on the streets, plus another 50,000 in Edinburgh. Fuck off again fiddles there is no need to try and bring others into the equation...I suppose when you fly a kite you ring and get permission from the CAA?...LOL Don't forget fiddles I used to work for the FAA so unlike you I know what I am talking aout. And of course I don't have any turds like khan to polish..
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Post by jonksy on Feb 28, 2024 23:13:18 GMT
Sorry, but you are still wrong The GLA is the statutory body governing London, with the Mayor as its head, yes it is true that The Statutory Body did give permission for the inflatable, but it does not mean that the inflatable was the responsibilty of Sadiq Khan, he had nothing to do with it. The other two organisations which gave permission were The Civil Aviation Authority and The Metropolitan Police, both of which also gave permission. But it does not mean that the Commissioner of The Metropolitan Police was responsible for the inflatable Oh please stop this crap. It never would have happened without the endorsement of Kahn . You are embarrassing yourself . Poor old fidles will try and pin it on Brexit next...
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Post by steppenwolf on Feb 29, 2024 8:06:43 GMT
It actually doesn't require a significant percentage of non-muslim votes to get elected - in fact it doesn't need ANY. As I tried to explain a 15% of voters who all vote for the same candidate and also ALL vote can easily beat the 85% of non-muslim voters who split their vote between candidates and do NOT all vote - in mayoral elections the turn out is typically very low. The last election which Khan won is a perfect example. Even if Khan gets ONLY the muslim vote he will be very hard to beat when the non-muslim vote is split 12 ways. That's why the TMV (The Muslim Vote) group is so dangerous. They intend to target marginals (where a small number of votes can swing the decision) and constituencies where the MP is not muslim-friendly. They can easily decide the outcome of an election with the first past the post system. As for why the muslims tend to vote for other muslims, it's because muslims stick together in their tight isolated communities and don't regard non-mulims (the kuffar) very highly. It probably doesn't apply to any other religious group. Except that Sadiq Khan won his last Mayoral election with 40% of the voters voting for him, and in the second round 55% of the vote. The Muslim vote in itself is splintered, with most Muslims opposed to radical Islam or Islamic policies, most British Muslims want to practice and celebrate their faith and culture within the framework of an open and free democratic society where Freedom Of Religion is respected.
The numbers of British Muslims who want this kind of society is growing, particularly amongst younger Muslims, who wish to respect their culture, but also want to go to nightclubs and indulge in a Western lifestyle. There's no evidence that the muslim vote was splintered. The numbers fit with the muslims all voting primarily for Khan and it's that vote that won it for him. Of course it's also helpful that he was the Labour candidate in a Labour area. Ideally we need to know the religion of the voters too to prove it definitely but the point is that muslim minorities can easily win elections because they ALL vote (they're told to vote by their local imam and the imam arranges for ballot papers to be collected from those who need help) and all tend to vote one way.. You want to read what the judge said at the trial of Lutfur Rahman who won the Tower Hamlets election - he broke every rule in the book. And the statement that "Most British Muslims want to practice and celebrate their faith and culture within the framework of an open and free democratic society where Freedom Of Religion is respected" must be a joke. Muslims don't respect democracy - as their attempts to intimidate our MPs show very clearly. And the statement that they respect freedom of religion is laughable. So why do the Shias and Sunnis hate each other - and regard Ahmadis as apostates? During the Mayor of London election the (hard-line Sunni) mosque that Khan attends held a hustings. One of the candidates was a Shia muslim and he was "advised not to attend because his safety could not be guaranteed". So much for celebrating freedom of religion. And freedom of speech is also rejected - ask Salman Rushdie, or the Batley teacher who has been in hiding for years You really are remarkably ignorant about the attitudes and culture of the muslims. You should spend a few years living in the UAE - you'd soon change your mind. And as for the statement that "particularly amongst younger Muslims, who wish to respect their culture, but also want to go to nightclubs and indulge in a Western lifestyle" this is a misunderstanding. What happens, when you try to mix cultures (especially medieval cultures like muslim culture) with a liberal cultural like ours, is that there's a polarising effect where some of the muslims take a liking to the British culture (usually the young females who like the freedom they get) but some react against the alien culture and become more conservative in their beliefs - in fact some of the most vicious terrorists have been educated in England. Unfortunately the fact is that it's the first generation immigrant muslims who are the moderate ones who go to the moderate mosques - while the second and third generation muslims go to hard-line mosques which preach armed jihad. Your ignorance on this subject, witchfinder is incredible.
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 29, 2024 10:39:09 GMT
Sorry, but you are still wrong The GLA is the statutory body governing London, with the Mayor as its head, yes it is true that The Statutory Body did give permission for the inflatable, but it does not mean that the inflatable was the responsibilty of Sadiq Khan, he had nothing to do with it. The other two organisations which gave permission were The Civil Aviation Authority and The Metropolitan Police, both of which also gave permission. But it does not mean that the Commissioner of The Metropolitan Police was responsible for the inflatable Oh please stop this crap. It never would have happened without the endorsement of Kahn . You are embarrassing yourself . The poster - jonksy - suggested that the inflatable was "Khans balloon", but it was not "his" balloon, he had nothing to do with it. If only you could understand how ridiculous your post is, whoever owned the inflatable, and whoever wanted to fly it above London, had no choice other than to ask permission from the THREE statutory bodies required to allow it to be flown, rather like a licence. What you are suggesting is that the Post Office clerk who gave Mrs Smith her Vehicle Licence is responsible for Mrs Smith been on the road, when in actual fact the Post Office clerk was merely doing his / her job. But more to the point ... WHY would the GLA NOT give permission ? If the CAA and the Metropolitan Police deemed it to be safe and acceptible, then why shouldn't the GLA ? Or are you opposed to peaceful protest, which can include ridicule ?
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Post by Bentley on Feb 29, 2024 10:53:32 GMT
Oh please stop this crap. It never would have happened without the endorsement of Kahn . You are embarrassing yourself . The poster - jonksy - suggested that the inflatable was "Khans balloon", but it was not "his" balloon, he had nothing to do with it. If only you could understand how ridiculous your post is, whoever owned the inflatable, and whoever wanted to fly it above London, had no choice other than to ask permission from the THREE statutory bodies required to allow it to be flown, rather like a licence. What you are suggesting is that the Post Office clerk who gave Mrs Smith her Vehicle Licence is responsible for Mrs Smith been on the road, when in actual fact the Post Office clerk was merely doing his / her job. But more to the point ... WHY would the GLA NOT give permission ? If the CAA and the Metropolitan Police deemed it to be safe and acceptible, then why shouldn't the GLA ? Or are you opposed to peaceful protest, which can include ridicule ? A leftie insisting that the balloon would have been floated without the support of khan insults everyone’s intelligence, including their own . What next? Will lefties insist it’s Rayner is not selling her council house , it’s her evil twin ?
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Post by Bentley on Feb 29, 2024 11:53:40 GMT
Oh please stop this crap. It never would have happened without the endorsement of Kahn . You are embarrassing yourself . The poster - jonksy - suggested that the inflatable was "Khans balloon", but it was not "his" balloon, he had nothing to do with it. If only you could understand how ridiculous your post is, whoever owned the inflatable, and whoever wanted to fly it above London, had no choice other than to ask permission from the THREE statutory bodies required to allow it to be flown, rather like a licence. What you are suggesting is that the Post Office clerk who gave Mrs Smith her Vehicle Licence is responsible for Mrs Smith been on the road, when in actual fact the Post Office clerk was merely doing his / her job.
But more to the point ... WHY would the GLA NOT give permission ?
If the CAA and the Metropolitan Police deemed it to be safe and acceptible, then why shouldn't the GLA ?
Or are you opposed to peaceful protest, which can include ridicule ? I don't think it’s appropriate to mock the POTUS on an official visit by floating a large balloon authorised by three statutory Uk bodies . His wouid you like to be greeted with a gorilla balloon when you visited your friends ? Or maybe a gorilla balloon when an African leader visits London?
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Post by sandypine on Feb 29, 2024 14:42:31 GMT
Preaching diversity is not the same as preaching the principle that we should treat people equaly and with the respect they deserve. Our democracy is not under threat from either Sadiq Khan or British Muslims Sadiq Khan does not promote hatred and division is society, Lee Anderson does But Labour do Dawn Butler said about the Tories "They seek power for status, to look after their rich mates and to hoard the wealth for the already wealthy 1%." I am not clear how that is different from what Anderson said it is just the same thing said about a political opponent and a different group of people. Butler is talking about teh Tory government and their relationship with the already wealthy and Anderson is stating quite clearly he is talking about Sadiq Khan and Islamists. Why is it OK for the left to promote hatred and division in society yet somehow almost criminal for the Tories to adopt a similar tack? Both are opinion pieces that may or may not have degrees of truth in them. The only difference is the left promote one view and call the other unacceptable.
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 29, 2024 21:07:47 GMT
The poster - jonksy - suggested that the inflatable was "Khans balloon", but it was not "his" balloon, he had nothing to do with it. If only you could understand how ridiculous your post is, whoever owned the inflatable, and whoever wanted to fly it above London, had no choice other than to ask permission from the THREE statutory bodies required to allow it to be flown, rather like a licence. What you are suggesting is that the Post Office clerk who gave Mrs Smith her Vehicle Licence is responsible for Mrs Smith been on the road, when in actual fact the Post Office clerk was merely doing his / her job. But more to the point ... WHY would the GLA NOT give permission ? If the CAA and the Metropolitan Police deemed it to be safe and acceptible, then why shouldn't the GLA ? Or are you opposed to peaceful protest, which can include ridicule ? A leftie insisting that the balloon would have been floated without the support of khan insults everyone’s intelligence, including their own . What next? Will lefties insist it’s Rayner is not selling her council house , it’s her evil twin ? If the local Licensing Committee grant a licence for a sex shop, it does not mean that the chairman of the licensing committee "SUPPORTS THE SEX SHOP", it merely means that as the regulatory body responsible, the committee have to make a decision based upon the law and on advice. BBC Reality Check from 2019 -------------------------------- It was cleared by the City Operations Unit at City Hall, where the Mayor of London is based. The group needed permission from the unit because Parliament Square Gardens is controlled by the Greater London Authority (GLA). You need permission to do a whole range of things there, including holding a public gathering or standing on your own with a placard. Applicants have to show that they have sufficient insurance and there has to be a full risk assessment. The GLA told Reality Check that it's not its role to act as a censor, or decide what is or isn't a good protest. But it says it does work with the Metropolitan Police to reject anything containing illegal content, such as anything racist or homophobic.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 29, 2024 21:11:59 GMT
A leftie insisting that the balloon would have been floated without the support of khan insults everyone’s intelligence, including their own . What next? Will lefties insist it’s Rayner is not selling her council house , it’s her evil twin ? If the local Licensing Committee grant a licence for a sex shop, it does not mean that the chairman of the licensing committee "SUPPORTS THE SEX SHOP", it merely means that as the regulatory body responsible, the committee have to make a decision based upon the law and on advice. BBC Reality Check from 2019 -------------------------------- It was cleared by the City Operations Unit at City Hall, where the Mayor of London is based. The group needed permission from the unit because Parliament Square Gardens is controlled by the Greater London Authority (GLA). You need permission to do a whole range of things there, including holding a public gathering or standing on your own with a placard. Applicants have to show that they have sufficient insurance and there has to be a full risk assessment. The GLA told Reality Check that it's not its role to act as a censor, or decide what is or isn't a good protest. But it says it does work with the Metropolitan Police to reject anything containing illegal content, such as anything racist or homophobic. A balloon mocking the POTUS as a yellow baby at time of his visit must have been endorsed by Khan . The more you deny it, the more ridiculous you look.
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 29, 2024 21:19:29 GMT
If the local Licensing Committee grant a licence for a sex shop, it does not mean that the chairman of the licensing committee "SUPPORTS THE SEX SHOP", it merely means that as the regulatory body responsible, the committee have to make a decision based upon the law and on advice. BBC Reality Check from 2019 -------------------------------- It was cleared by the City Operations Unit at City Hall, where the Mayor of London is based. The group needed permission from the unit because Parliament Square Gardens is controlled by the Greater London Authority (GLA). You need permission to do a whole range of things there, including holding a public gathering or standing on your own with a placard. Applicants have to show that they have sufficient insurance and there has to be a full risk assessment. The GLA told Reality Check that it's not its role to act as a censor, or decide what is or isn't a good protest. But it says it does work with the Metropolitan Police to reject anything containing illegal content, such as anything racist or homophobic. A balloon mocking the POTUS as a yellow baby at time of his visit must have been endorsed by Khan . The more you deny it, the more ridiculous you look. You see, there you go again, this time using the word "Endorsed", I bet that Khan does not even sit on the City Operations Unit. The more appropriate term or word is "Granted Permission" not "Endorsed", the authority had to make the decision, it was their responsibility, and they sought advice from other bodies including The Metropolitan Police. As for disrespecting the President of the United States, who cares, Trump must understand that in this country such kinds of protest are allowed.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 29, 2024 21:23:17 GMT
A balloon mocking the POTUS as a yellow baby at time of his visit must have been endorsed by Khan . The more you deny it, the more ridiculous you look. You see, there you go again, this time using the word "Endorsed", I bet that Khan does not even sit on the City Operations Unit. The more appropriate term or word is "Granted Permission" not "Endorsed", the authority had to make the decision, it was their responsibility, and they sought advice from other bodies including The Metropolitan Police. As for disrespecting the President of the United States, who cares, Trump must understand that in this country such kinds of protest are allowed. Endorse means support . Trump represented the people of the USA . You are so full of crap .😁
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2024 21:24:28 GMT
A balloon mocking the POTUS as a yellow baby at time of his visit must have been endorsed by Khan . The more you deny it, the more ridiculous you look. He'll probably delete his account when exposed and return under another alias. There's only so much lying a single account can do before they're blocked.
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