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Post by jonksy on Apr 12, 2024 3:46:29 GMT
Boris had a bitrhday surprise sprung on him... Well, Boris may have been surprised by it. But all the invitees clearly weren't surprised, as they arrived after being invited. However, did the investigation conclude that Baris was surprised? I don't think it did... All The Best Total BOLLOCKS both Boris and fishy were surprised. And as for an ivestigation do you mean the fucking lefty instigated hypocritical sanctimonious witchunt?
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 12, 2024 7:52:18 GMT
Well, Boris may have been surprised by it. But all the invitees clearly weren't surprised, as they arrived after being invited. However, did the investigation conclude that Baris was surprised? I don't think it did... All The Best Total BOLLOCKS both Boris and fishy were surprised. And as for an ivestigation do you mean the fucking lefty instigated hypocritical sanctimonious witchunt?Only in your tiny delusional mind. They broke rules, they were investigated, a verdict was arrived at. That is how it is supposed to work. That you didn't like the verdict is 100% fucking irrelevant. Get over it. The world does not have to conform to your politically and socially illiterate views. All The Best
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Post by jonksy on Apr 12, 2024 8:25:17 GMT
Total BOLLOCKS both Boris and fishy were surprised. And as for an ivestigation do you mean the fucking lefty instigated hypocritical sanctimonious witchunt?Only in your tiny delusional mind. They broke rules, they were investigated, a verdict was arrived at. That is how it is supposed to work. That you didn't like the verdict is 100% fucking irrelevant. Get over it. The world does not have to conform to your politically and socially illiterate views. All The Best A fucking excuse for an enquiry led by a labour member of PIE...It don't take much to fool the usual lefty knuckel-dragging dumfucks does it pv? And when I want any knowledge on the subject you would be the last one I would listen too...
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 12, 2024 8:54:25 GMT
Well, Boris may have been surprised by it. But all the invitees clearly weren't surprised, as they arrived after being invited. However, did the investigation conclude that Baris was surprised? I don't think it did... All The Best Total BOLLOCKS both Boris and fishy were surprised. And as for an ivestigation do you mean the fucking lefty instigated hypocritical sanctimonious witchunt? Starmer beergate was all prearranged with the knowledge of Starmer, they had planned a knees-up knowing full well it would breach lockdown rules, so they came up with the 'work meeting', probably the senior police officer who was also there told them how they could legally get round it, meanwhile the rest of us mugs had to strictly follow the lockdown rules, couldn't even have our families visit our homes.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 12, 2024 9:52:31 GMT
Eventually ... Starmer/Rayner have obviously been working hard behind the scenes ... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13300685/Police-launch-investigation-Angela-Rayner-cPolice launch investigation into claims Angela Rayner broke electoral law in the sale of her council house**poor old Ange all the hard work she's put in to backstabbing and ousting Starmer once he's PM, she's waited all these years to be Prime Minister .... LOL
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 12, 2024 11:07:19 GMT
That does demonstrates that you haven't thought about it. Or if you did, it was too confusing for you. For it to make me a hypocrite I would have to have made a statement similar to the one you linked to by Rayner; I have made no such comment. For the record, I think anyone paid from the Public Purse should be required by law to publicly release their tax records, every year. However, currently that is not the case, and the only bodies that can reasonably make that request of a person so paid is a body that has the authority to investigate crimes, or alleged crimes, that would require such a revelation. Has Rayner been asked to provide such records, by such a body? If she has and has complied what is the issue? If she has not been asked what is the issue? If she has been asked and has refused then we clearly have an issue. Remember, we have an assumption of Innocent Until PROVEN Guilty in this country, and no one is required by law to self-incriminate. I should also remind you that even if she were called to court to defend against claims of legal wrongdoing she is still not required to provide any verbal statement. As long as what Rayner is doing is legal then I have no problems with that. It is not Rayner's duty to provide evidence, or refuting evidence, of her alleged guilt... ...end of. It is solely the duty of the Prosecution to "prove beyond reasonable doubt" that Rayner is guilty of any offences of which she is accused. Of course, were she to refuse to defend herself then it would be fair, and legal, for a court to draw adverse inferences from that. So, if this goes to court we will then see what happens. If the CPO decides the threshold has not been met to proceed to court then Rayner's reputation could be harmed by her lack of willingness to engage in the public discourse, but she still would NOT have done anything that was legally, or morally, reprehensible. I am genuinely confused as to why this is an issue that seemingly requires one to get one's panties in a twist. It is akin to "woke snowflakes" having a temper tantrum when they discover that reality is not what they want it to be. All The Best You are jumping the gun somewhat with your court comments Tax dodging is dealt with by HMRC with an assessment after enquiry and usually within the tax tribunal system if challenged - there's no 'guilty' or 'not guilty' there's liability (with interest and penalty as well as back tax due) or non liability Criminal courts would only become involved if the facts show that the tax dodging is so serious and organised to the extent that criminal prosecution is required as an example 'pour encourager les autres' Zahawi had to resign having settled his tax investigation with HMRC. The ginger growler was very vocal at the time
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2024 11:31:02 GMT
Eventually ... Starmer/Rayner have obviously been working hard behind the scenes ... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13300685/Police-launch-investigation-Angela-Rayner-cPolice launch investigation into claims Angela Rayner broke electoral law in the sale of her council house**poor old Ange all the hard work she's put in to backstabbing and ousting Starmer once he's PM, she's waited all these years to be Prime Minister .... LOL A Police investigation, excellent, so if she is innocent posters like yourself will have egg all over their face, while if guilty, those posters calling for evidence like myself will carry on as normal LOL
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 12, 2024 12:03:39 GMT
Yes just like pictures of Starmer on his curry night guzzling beer from bottle, along with the rest of the drunks, but they got off with it, thanks to his handy connections. Wasn't the difference that the Starmer incident called out for food for people that were already there working, and the Johnson incident was food specifically laid on for people who were not already there working, but were invited to attend just for the food. That is one was a "working lunch" and the other was a "party by invitation". Subtle difference I know, perhaps too subtle for you to have picked up on; but the Police certainly did. All The Best Yes indeed, I wonder how many "essential beers" were required to wash down the "essential curry" during this "working lunch", which was from 8.30pm until 10pm... before Rayner (Who was not there) staggered off to bed singing the red flag.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 12, 2024 12:03:53 GMT
Eventually ... Starmer/Rayner have obviously been working hard behind the scenes ... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13300685/Police-launch-investigation-Angela-Rayner-cPolice launch investigation into claims Angela Rayner broke electoral law in the sale of her council house**poor old Ange all the hard work she's put in to backstabbing and ousting Starmer once he's PM, she's waited all these years to be Prime Minister .... LOL A Police investigation, excellent, so if she is innocent posters like yourself will have egg all over their face, while if guilty, those posters calling for evidence like myself will carry on as normal LOL Well whoever investigates her if she's found guilty as charged I just hope the person heading any inquiries is offered a plum job in the Tory party once she has been forced to resign, isn't that what happened to Johnson.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 12, 2024 12:15:24 GMT
A Police investigation, excellent, so if she is innocent posters like yourself will have egg all over their face, while if guilty, those posters calling for evidence like myself will carry on as normal LOL Well whoever investigates her if she's found guilty as charged I just hope the person heading any inquiries is offered a plum job in the Tory party once she has been forced to resign, isn't that what happened to Johnson. And lets not forget Labour have no control over this now the police are involved. And a police investigation could take months, Starmer could have this hanging over Labour until the general election never mind the local elections.
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 12, 2024 12:27:50 GMT
The problem was never what Rayner did, it is very small fry. The problem is trying to wriggle out of it.
They were married, so they were not legally allowed to avoid tax on more than one house (they sold both). Why the fuck she didn't just hold her hands up say she got it wrong is beyond me.
Now she is facing a police investigations, and wider HMRC investigations... and when those fuckers start an investigation they always find something.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 12, 2024 12:37:04 GMT
Wasn't the difference that the Starmer incident called out for food for people that were already there working, and the Johnson incident was food specifically laid on for people who were not already there working, but were invited to attend just for the food. That is one was a "working lunch" and the other was a "party by invitation". Subtle difference I know, perhaps too subtle for you to have picked up on; but the Police certainly did. All The Best Yes indeed, I wonder how many "essential beers" were required to wash down the "essential curry" during this "working lunch", which was from 8.30pm until 10pm... before Rayner (Who was not there) staggered off to bed singing the red flag. Of course drinking beer was not prohibited during lockdown, in the same way that eating cake wasn't.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 12, 2024 12:41:24 GMT
Yes indeed, I wonder how many "essential beers" were required to wash down the "essential curry" during this "working lunch", which was from 8.30pm until 10pm... before Rayner (Who was not there) staggered off to bed singing the red flag. Of course drinking beer was not prohibited during lockdown, in the same way that eating cake wasn't. LOLS, I'd like to say good try, but I think we both know it wasn't.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 12, 2024 12:45:43 GMT
Yes indeed, I wonder how many "essential beers" were required to wash down the "essential curry" during this "working lunch", which was from 8.30pm until 10pm... before Rayner (Who was not there) staggered off to bed singing the red flag. Of course drinking beer was not prohibited during lockdown, in the same way that eating cake wasn't. And the difference was Andy? How many times did you visit the pub or provate residence juring lockdown FFS?
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Post by jonksy on Apr 12, 2024 12:48:02 GMT
Of course drinking beer was not prohibited during lockdown, in the same way that eating cake wasn't. LOLS, I'd like to say good try, but I think we both know it wasn't. This subject certainly brings out the loony left inforce....LOL.....Funny tho mention a crime carried out by a coloured and not one of the fuckers to be found...
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