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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2022 19:12:28 GMT
Dont be pedantic cps head Is appointed by the Aternal general who is a mp of whatever govenment is serving. And have you got any evidence that cryer was silenced by accusations or racism He may be but he has to consider the law and teh evidence. Prosecution is not a political gift, or it should not be, it is a consideration of a person's actions with regard to the existing law. Try the horse's mouth for Cryer. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/ann-cryer-and-fight-expose-child-grooming-gangs-yorkshire-1751079They protected the gangs in the name of diversity and got away with accusing everyone except the gangs of racism. The country had to rid themselves of the Labour party to even begin to address it.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 20, 2022 19:32:00 GMT
They protected the gangs in the name of diversity and got away with accusing everyone except the gangs of racism. The country had to rid themselves of the Labour party to even begin to address it.
Lol this Is the sort of nonesence i posted my post about prosecution of grooming gangs dating back to 1997 when they came to power. and the prosecution of the rochdale grooming gang was the catalyst of the prosecutions that follow hold
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2022 19:51:31 GMT
Well, I tend to skip over the nonsense. The fact that Starmer even admitted to the fact that the gangs escaped justice for decades because police, prosecutors and the courts failed to understand the nature of the abuse. The CPS wouldn't touch it, and the reason was obvious. Nobody wanted to be accused of racism, because under Labour that was a death sentence for anyone in a career. Labour corrupted the institutions and used their network of resources, including Unions, to shut down and attack anything that attempted to address it, rather than simply address it. Labour were not only useless, they used every dirty trick in the book to bury it.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 20, 2022 20:03:00 GMT
Well, I tend to skip over the nonsense. The fact tvictimsStarmer even admitted to the fact that the gangs escaped justice for decades because police, prosecutors and the courts failed to understand the nature of the abuse. The CPS wouldn't touch it, and the reason was obvious. Nobody wanted to be accused of racism, because under Labour that was a death sentence for anyone in a career. Labour corrupted the institutions and used their network of resources, including Unions, to shut down and attack anything that attempted to address it, rather than simply address it. Labour were not only useless, they used every dirty trick in the book to bury it. The reason the cps wouldnt touch the cases because the police called the white working class victims pros. And even the girls was reluctant to appear in court.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 20, 2022 22:26:49 GMT
They protected the gangs in the name of diversity and got away with accusing everyone except the gangs of racism. The country had to rid themselves of the Labour party to even begin to address it.
Lol this Is the sort of nonesence i posted my post about prosecution of grooming gangs dating back to 1997 when they came to power. and the prosecution of the rochdale grooming gang was the catalyst of the prosecutions that follow hold Hmm. Have you a link to teh 97 case. Moving on however the NW prosecutor has alleged that the Labour Home Office in 2008 sent a circular saying the cases were not to be investigated as the girls in question had made an informed choice. When Griffin and Collet were cleared in 2006 Brown was more concerned with tightening up race hate laws instead of investigating the BNP claims. It is admitted that Naz Shah MP also said the girls should shut up for the sake of diversity, apparently an 'accident'.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 20, 2022 23:59:09 GMT
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 21, 2022 0:19:53 GMT
Sandy your trying to point out that Naz Alleged something has fact ?
If you read the link I posted on the above thread you see that the report states that there been 17 cases of grooming cases and 14 had been in the last 3 yrs what takes us back to 2008 . What makes the Alleged naz statement unlikely. Has for Brown being more concerned about tighting up race laws then pursuing grooming cases poppycoke Like I said blunkit already had introduced a law that made it easier for the girls to be witness .
What else could brown do.
Has a matter of fact I don't think that law has been changed and still stands to this day
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Post by Steve on Nov 21, 2022 0:57:13 GMT
Was this between the BNP inventing penicillin or their discovery of a cure for all cancers? IE can you post any evidence of provenance to back that story? The Jay report certainly doesn't Why on earth do you think Griffin and Collett were sent to court. It was speeches highlighting the grooming gangs and was broadcast with much editing by teh BBC in teh secret agent. The BBC reported the pair for hate speech but totally ignored their accusations as regard grooming gangs. Most reports ignore why the pair said what they did of course thsio link will not be to your satisfaction but then if it is difficult to be found in teh MSM that is not because the problem was not highlighted by them. bnp.org.uk/media-bnp-was-right-on-muslim-rape-gangs/But if you do not like that one try this www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/nov/03/ukcrime.thefarrightIt was a case of hating the messenger so ignoring the message. no way to run a country. Your own links show that the BNP were making false statements that were wildly exaggerated and statements they had no evidence for. As such they would have put back the true exposure and addressing of the problem as their outbursts would have been easily dismissed and allowed others raising genuine concerns to be dismissed b association. It was for example utterly ludicrous and fundamentally unhelpful for Collett to assert that all rapes were by Asians on whites and Asians wanted to wipe out all white people.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 21, 2022 9:16:17 GMT
Why on earth do you think Griffin and Collett were sent to court. It was speeches highlighting the grooming gangs and was broadcast with much editing by teh BBC in teh secret agent. The BBC reported the pair for hate speech but totally ignored their accusations as regard grooming gangs. Most reports ignore why the pair said what they did of course thsio link will not be to your satisfaction but then if it is difficult to be found in teh MSM that is not because the problem was not highlighted by them. bnp.org.uk/media-bnp-was-right-on-muslim-rape-gangs/But if you do not like that one try this www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/nov/03/ukcrime.thefarrightIt was a case of hating the messenger so ignoring the message. no way to run a country. Your own links show that the BNP were making false statements that were wildly exaggerated and statements they had no evidence for. As such they would have put back the true exposure and addressing of the problem as their outbursts would have been easily dismissed and allowed others raising genuine concerns to be dismissed b association. It was for example utterly ludicrous and fundamentally unhelpful for Collett to assert that all rapes were by Asians on whites and Asians wanted to wipe out all white people. Ho I am not saying the BNP were the perfect conduits for information I am saying that they were ignored in total. Several of the relatives back in those days said that the only people that listened to their serious concerns as regards the girls were the BNP. That may say something about the BNP as keen to find a problem with immigrants but it says more about the powers that be in that they do not want to find a problem with immigrants and indeed have the power to ensure that that information is kept under wraps by trying to ensure the messengers were silenced through law. As regards evidence it seems that whatever they had and whatever they based their claims on were certainly justified as largely true in the subsequent scandals as regards grooming gangs and the Inquiries. The fact still remains, they highlighted the problem in its early stages and were ignored and attempted to be silenced through prison.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 21, 2022 11:31:45 GMT
Your own links show that the BNP were making false statements that were wildly exaggerated and statements they had no evidence for. As such they would have put back the true exposure and addressing of the problem as their outbursts would have been easily dismissed and allowed others raising genuine concerns to be dismissed b association. It was for example utterly ludicrous and fundamentally unhelpful for Collett to assert that all rapes were by Asians on whites and Asians wanted to wipe out all white people. Ho I am not saying the BNP were the perfect conduits for information I am saying that they were ignored in total. Several of the relatives back in those days said that the only people that listened to their serious concerns as regards the girls were the BNP. That may say something about the BNP as keen to find a problem with immigrants but it says more about the powers that be in that they do not want to find a problem with immigrants and indeed have the power to ensure that that information is kept under wraps by trying to ensure the messengers were silenced through law. As regards evidence it seems that whatever they had and whatever they based their claims on were certainly justified as largely true in the subsequent scandals as regards grooming gangs and the Inquiries. The fact still remains, they highlighted the problem in its early stages and were ignored and attempted to be silenced through prison. Probably a case of the boy who cried Wolf. If they hadn't spent 2 or 3 decades espousing racist bile they might have been listened to a bit more.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 21, 2022 13:24:38 GMT
Ho I am not saying the BNP were the perfect conduits for information I am saying that they were ignored in total. Several of the relatives back in those days said that the only people that listened to their serious concerns as regards the girls were the BNP. That may say something about the BNP as keen to find a problem with immigrants but it says more about the powers that be in that they do not want to find a problem with immigrants and indeed have the power to ensure that that information is kept under wraps by trying to ensure the messengers were silenced through law. As regards evidence it seems that whatever they had and whatever they based their claims on were certainly justified as largely true in the subsequent scandals as regards grooming gangs and the Inquiries. The fact still remains, they highlighted the problem in its early stages and were ignored and attempted to be silenced through prison. Probably a case of the boy who cried Wolf. If they hadn't spent 2 or 3 decades espousing racist bile they might have been listened to a bit more. As I said not the best conduit. Not sure about crying wolf, they adopted an approach that was generally within the law apart from the odd prosecution so the police, social services and anyone else should not have ignored them because they believed they were unacceptable to the main thrust of society. This is part of the problem the police and social services judged the girls and judged those bringing the message. Not a good look.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 21, 2022 13:31:56 GMT
No one came out of the whole mess looking good. Least of all Tommy Robinson (not his real name).
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