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Post by Steve on Nov 19, 2022 11:48:28 GMT
Raffiq's complaints were pretty disturbing and few right-minded people would suggest that the failings seemingly endemic in Yorkshire Cricket Club should not be corrected. Rafiq's complaints seem pretty trivial to me, especially compared to Rafiq's anti-semitic tweets. It seems that Rafiq was called a "Pakistani" sometimes which is an abbreviation like "Brit". Why should he complain? Rafiq himself called Gary Ballance a "Zimbo" and suggested that he should "fuck off back where he came from". In fact Rafiq had a very good career at Yorkshire for a not very good spin bowler, including being made club captain. As a result of Rafiq's complaints a lot of members of the Yorkshire cricket club were sacked (on very little evidence) and they put a "Pakistani" in charge for some reason. It has cost the club millions in lost revenue and rafiq was awarded £200k IIRC. Not bad for a paranoid "Pakistani" who saw a chance of making money and took it as his career was over. He also, with a couple of muslim mates, accused Vaughan of saying "There are too many of you lot here, we must do something about it", which Vaughan has always denied - but he has lost his jobs with the BBC as a result and has hardly been heard from since the allegations. Guilty until proved innocent? Rafiq has made a lot of money out of this though. I wonder why any cricket club would now want to employ "Pakistani muslims". It's a ticking time bomb. One word out of place and you're accused of "racism". And any accusation of racism against whites is immediately believed by the wokery. I suggest the probability is Vaughan did say it just like David Lloyd did say those comments about Asians being tightfisted. Vaughan certainly hasn't made any noises about suing for libel. Vaughan went to FoxSports and BT Sports for fatter pickings than the BBC offered and IIRC is still there |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 19, 2022 14:56:00 GMT
His story is that of a convicted football hooligan who went on to commit mortgage fraud and was refused entry to the US when he was found to be entering under a false name with a false passport. Odious is the least of how I would describe the miserable human being. Not someone that should be a hero of anyone IMO. WE have had in the last year 40,000 people arriving here with no passporst whatsover and we have no idea what criminal records they have. At least TR is a known quantity in that respect but he does not get free board and keep, or pocket money. Perhaps our priorities are wrong |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 19, 2022 15:19:00 GMT
His story is that of a convicted football hooligan who went on to commit mortgage fraud and was refused entry to the US when he was found to be entering under a false name with a false passport. Odious is the least of how I would describe the miserable human being. Not someone that should be a hero of anyone IMO. WE have had in the last year 40,000 people arriving here with no passporst whatsover and we have no idea what criminal records they have. At least TR is a known quantity in that respect but he does not get free board and keep, or pocket money. Perhaps our priorities are wrong Well he has received free board and keep in the past at HM's pleasure but thankfully he seems to be keeping his head down and his mouth shut these days. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 19, 2022 15:55:59 GMT
WE have had in the last year 40,000 people arriving here with no passporst whatsover and we have no idea what criminal records they have. At least TR is a known quantity in that respect but he does not get free board and keep, or pocket money. Perhaps our priorities are wrong Well he has received free board and keep in the past at HM's pleasure but thankfully he seems to be keeping his head down and his mouth shut these days. Indeed and he has had a multitude outside HM prison welcoming him back into the fold, very similar to the demonstrators outside Manston who had banners welcoming those inside. As I said perhaps our priorities are a bit askew. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 19, 2022 16:10:31 GMT
His story is that of athe a convicted football hooligan who went on to commit mortgage fraud and was refused entry to the US when he was found to be entering under a false name withexposede passport. Odious is the least of how I would describe the miserable human being. Not someone that should be a hero of anyone IMO. I thought you might be a bit more clued up. Tommy Robinson is doing, or was doing what the government should have been doing, what we all should have been doing. Exposing Pakistani rape gangs, euphemistically known as 'grooming gangs'. I've gone into this in some detail, and you are typical of the majority, you don't know what goes on. It doesn't affect you so why should it bother you. Is that because you don't care? I wouldn't have thought so. Is it because you don't know the extent of the horrific torture these Pakistani 'men' inflicted on girls as young as 12 years old. Quite possibly. I say this in absolute sincerity, read a book called 'Easy Meat', anyone with a shred of decency, will weep. People don't know what goes on because it's racist to comment. Have a listen to this, Andrew Norfolk exposed grooming gangs and was absolutely vilified by the MSM. As far as I'm concerned Tommy Robinson has bigger balls than any of the political class who have overseen the scandal that is the cover up of Muslim grooming gangs in this country. Ann cryer the labour mp for rotherham was expoising so called grooming gangs before the crimunal Robinsion . the only thing robinson expossed was violence and criminalty on the streets of England by is EDL members . and for the record the Rochdale grooming gang was exposed by a child care worker in the social services she is now a labour councillor in rochdale she took up the postion of councillor to make sure nothing to the like happens in rochdale again |
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Post by Steve on Nov 19, 2022 16:51:05 GMT
His story is that of a convicted football hooligan who went on to commit mortgage fraud and was refused entry to the US when he was found to be entering under a false name with a false passport. Odious is the least of how I would describe the miserable human being. Not someone that should be a hero of anyone IMO. I thought you might be a bit more clued up. Tommy Robinson is doing, or was doing what the government should have been doing, what we all should have been doing. Exposing Pakistani rape gangs, euphemistically known as 'grooming gangs'. I've gone into this in some detail, and you are typical of the majority, you don't know what goes on. It doesn't affect you so why should it bother you. Is that because you don't care? I wouldn't have thought so. Is it because you don't know the extent of the horrific torture these Pakistani 'men' inflicted on girls as young as 12 years old. Quite possibly. I say this in absolute sincerity, read a book called 'Easy Meat', anyone with a shred of decency, will weep. People don't know what goes on because it's racist to comment. Have a listen to this, Andrew Norfolk exposed grooming gangs and was absolutely vilified by the MSM. As far as I'm concerned Tommy Robinson has bigger balls than any of the political class who have overseen the scandal that is the cover up of Muslim grooming gangs in this country. Well that's a video everyone should see. But it completely disproves your point. It shows how the MSM (ie the Times) were vital to exposing those horrors and the acquiescence in them by South Yorkshire Police and Rotherham Council several members of which should be rotting in jail. It does nothing to support your praise of Stephen Lennon, the so called Robinson, who tried to screw up trials of abusers for his own personal glory and profit. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 19, 2022 19:59:24 GMT
I thought you might be a bit more clued up. Tommy Robinson is doing, or was doing what the government should have been doing, what we all should have been doing. Exposing Pakistani rape gangs, euphemistically known as 'grooming gangs'. I've gone into this in some detail, and you are typical of the majority, you don't know what goes on. It doesn't affect you so why should it bother you. Is that because you don't care? I wouldn't have thought so. Is it because you don't know the extent of the horrific torture these Pakistani 'men' inflicted on girls as young as 12 years old. Quite possibly. I say this in absolute sincerity, read a book called 'Easy Meat', anyone with a shred of decency, will weep. People don't know what goes on because it's racist to comment. Have a listen to this, Andrew Norfolk exposed grooming gangs and was absolutely vilified by the MSM. As far as I'm concerned Tommy Robinson has bigger balls than any of the political class who have overseen the scandal that is the cover up of Muslim grooming gangs in this country. Well that's a video everyone should see. But it completely disproves your point. It shows how the MSM (ie the Times) were vital to exposing those horrors and the acquiescence in them by South Yorkshire Police and Rotherham Council several members of which should be rotting in jail. It does nothing to support your praise of Stephen Lennon, the so called Robinson, who tried to screw up trials of abusers for his own personal glory and profit. The Times were very late to the game and the relatives of the young girls could only get the likes of teh BNP to listen to their stories as Ann Cryer their MP had been sidelined and silenced by accusations of racism. When the BNP broke the story the MSM and the courts decided that the BNP should be the ones prosecuted and that was ten years before the Times 'broke' the story. By the time the Times arrived it was clear that it could not be kept under wraps as other individuals were also shouting loudly and the no smoke without fire adage was very apparent. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 19, 2022 20:36:21 GMT
Sandy don't know about cryer being silenced she was ignored by the social services and police when she raised the case of the victims .
And has for being late the labour party was the first to convict Muslim Grooming gangs in 1997 when they first got into power.
And lets not forget the forerunner to what lead to many grooming cases being brought to court was the rochdale case what was by a labour government.
Like I said also the lady who spilled the beans on the Rochdale gang has since become a labour councillor
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Post by Steve on Nov 19, 2022 21:17:54 GMT
Well that's a video everyone should see. But it completely disproves your point. It shows how the MSM (ie the Times) were vital to exposing those horrors and the acquiescence in them by South Yorkshire Police and Rotherham Council several members of which should be rotting in jail. It does nothing to support your praise of Stephen Lennon, the so called Robinson, who tried to screw up trials of abusers for his own personal glory and profit. The Times were very late to the game and the relatives of the young girls could only get the likes of teh BNP to listen to their stories as Ann Cryer their MP had been sidelined and silenced by accusations of racism. When the BNP broke the story the MSM and the courts decided that the BNP should be the ones prosecuted and that was ten years before the Times 'broke' the story. By the time the Times arrived it was clear that it could not be kept under wraps as other individuals were also shouting loudly and the no smoke without fire adage was very apparent. Was this between the BNP inventing penicillin or their discovery of a cure for all cancers? IE can you post any evidence of provenance to back that story? The Jay report certainly doesn't |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 20, 2022 14:22:34 GMT
Oracle75 said "I suggest the probability is Vaughan did say it just like David Lloyd did say those comments about Asians being tightfisted. Vaughan certainly hasn't made any noises about suing for libel".
What you suspect isn't grounds for the BBC sacking him. And suing for libel is a good way of going bankrupt - even if you win.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 20, 2022 15:17:03 GMT
The Times were very late to the game and the relatives of the young girls could only get the likes of teh BNP to listen to their stories as Ann Cryer their MP had been sidelined and silenced by accusations of racism. When the BNP broke the story the MSM and the courts decided that the BNP should be the ones prosecuted and that was ten years before the Times 'broke' the story. By the time the Times arrived it was clear that it could not be kept under wraps as other individuals were also shouting loudly and the no smoke without fire adage was very apparent. Was this between the BNP inventing penicillin or their discovery of a cure for all cancers? IE can you post any evidence of provenance to back that story? The Jay report certainly doesn't Why on earth do you think Griffin and Collett were sent to court. It was speeches highlighting the grooming gangs and was broadcast with much editing by teh BBC in teh secret agent. The BBC reported the pair for hate speech but totally ignored their accusations as regard grooming gangs. Most reports ignore why the pair said what they did of course thsio link will not be to your satisfaction but then if it is difficult to be found in teh MSM that is not because the problem was not highlighted by them. bnp.org.uk/media-bnp-was-right-on-muslim-rape-gangs/But if you do not like that one try this www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/nov/03/ukcrime.thefarrightIt was a case of hating the messenger so ignoring the message. no way to run a country. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 20, 2022 15:32:11 GMT
Sandy don't know about cryer being silenced she was ignored by the social services and police when she raised the case of the victims . And has for being late the labour party was the first to convict Muslim Grooming gangs in 1997 when they first got into power. And lets not forget the forerunner to what lead to many grooming cases being brought to court was the rochdale case what was by a labour government. Like I said also the lady who spilled the beans on the Rochdale gang has since become a labour councillor Cryer was sidelined (ignored) which effectively silenced her through accusations of racism. The Labour party do not prosecute anyone the Prosecution service does. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 20, 2022 17:44:59 GMT
Sandy don't know aboutand cryer being silenced she was ignored by the social services and police when she raised the case of the victims . And has for being late the labour party was the first to convict Muslim Grooming gangs in 1997 when they first got into power. And lets not forget the forerunner to what lead to many grooming cases being brought to court was the rochdale case what was by a labour government. Like I said also the lady who spilled the beans on the Rochdale gang has since become a labour councillor Cryer was sidelined (ignored) which effectively silenced her through accusations of racism. The Labour party do not prosecute anyone the Prosecution service does. Dont be pedantic cps head Is appointed by the Aternal general who is a mp of whatever govenment is serving. And have you got any evidence that cryer was silenced by accusations or racism |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 20, 2022 18:01:59 GMT
Cryer was sidelined (ignored) which effectively silenced her through accusations of racism. The Labour party do not prosecute anyone the Prosecution service does. Dont be pedantic cps head Is appointed by the Aternal general who is a mp of whatever govenment is serving. And have you got any evidence that cryer was silenced by accusations or racism He may be but he has to consider the law and teh evidence. Prosecution is not a political gift, or it should not be, it is a consideration of a person's actions with regard to the existing law. Try the horse's mouth for Cryer. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/ann-cryer-and-fight-expose-child-grooming-gangs-yorkshire-1751079 |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 20, 2022 18:51:12 GMT
Dont be pedanticit cps head Is appointed by the Aternal general who is a mp of whatever govenment is serving. And have you got any evidence that cryer was silenced by accusations or racism He may be but he has to consider the law and teh evidence. Prosecution is not a political gift, or it should not be, it is a consideration of a person's actions with regard to the existing law. Try the horse's mouth for Cryer. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/ann-cryer-and-fight-expose-child-grooming-gangs-yorkshire-1751079Yea she dose say several times she was called a racist but doesnt state where the remarkes come from . It could of come from the Pakistan community . Did you notice at the time Ann was raising the grooming gang in keiley she met blunkit who was home sec at the time and he introduced a law what made it easier for the victims to give evidence in court. So In that respect the increase in prosucutione of grooming gangs was down to labour |
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