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Post by Handyman on Feb 23, 2024 19:24:02 GMT
From the BBC
France has expelled a "radical" imam who made "unacceptable remarks" about the country's flag, Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin has said.
Mahjoub Mahjoubi appeared to call the French flag "satanic" in a video that went viral online earlier this week.
Mr Darmanin said France's immigration reforms had enabled the swift deportation of the imam.
But the imam denies any wrongdoing and said he had not meant to be disrespectful.
Mahjoub Mahjoubi, who hails from Tunisia but came to France 38 years ago, was an imam at the Ettaouba mosque in the small town of Bagnols-sur-Cèze, in the south of France.
He was arrested earlier this week after a video circulated online showing him describing a "tricolour flag" as "satanic" and saying it has "no value with Allah".
I have no love of the French , but our Government should take notice, that is how to get rid of undesirables
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 23, 2024 20:57:55 GMT
Well spotted H, excellent news. "The radical Imam Mahjoub Mahjoubi has just been expelled from France, less than 12 hours after his arrest".
France is a member of the ECHR and comes under the jurisdiction of the ECtHR, yet it seems France can deport undesirables less than 12 hours after arresting them. The reason we in the UK cant do the same is because of: 1. Lefty politicians 2. Lefty civil servants 3. Lefty Lawyers 4. Lefty NGO's A pox on all their houses. www.france24.com/en/africa/20240223-tunisian-imam-expelled-from-france-vows-to-appeal-decision
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Post by Handyman on Feb 24, 2024 13:14:24 GMT
Well spotted H, excellent news. "The radical Imam Mahjoub Mahjoubi has just been expelled from France, less than 12 hours after his arrest".
France is a member of the ECHR and comes under the jurisdiction of the ECtHR, yet it seems France can deport undesirables less than 12 hours after arresting them. The reason we in the UK cant do the same is because of: 1. Lefty politicians 2. Lefty civil servants 3. Lefty Lawyers 4. Lefty NGO's A pox on all their houses. www.france24.com/en/africa/20240223-tunisian-imam-expelled-from-france-vows-to-appeal-decisionHe can Appeal all he likes from Tunisia , I think there maybe more to him being Deported than the Flag incident hence he got his arse kicked out in double quick time
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 24, 2024 13:48:22 GMT
I'm sure that resident proggies will be developing concerns that HMG could be emboldened by France's leadership role in ejecting islamic and other religious nutcases, but there's really nothing to be worried about.
In the year to September the UK admitted almost six hundred 'ministers of religion' on 'skilled worker' visas, plus another 1300 on temporary work visas.
Now I think it's a racing certainty that few if any of these holy persons were affiliated to the Church of England so the pipeline of new imported Imams to serve Britain's Muslim communities appears to have been continued to be well-stocked.
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Post by patman post on Feb 24, 2024 14:41:07 GMT
Is there any legitimate reason why a cleric of any religion who is a citizen of another country shouldn't be ordered to leave if found to be "undesirable"?
But I guess the idea could get a bit muddled if the deported pointed out that Britain of reserves seats in its legislature for clerics and has its head of state as the head of its established church...
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 24, 2024 16:30:54 GMT
It's not the first time that France has ignored the ECHR - they show it can be done.
All it requires is the will to do it..
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 24, 2024 18:02:39 GMT
It's not the first time that France has ignored the ECHR - they show it can be done. All it requires is the will to do it.. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68103950I suspect the reason for both the changes in the law and the expulsion are explained in the above link Macron's party are without a majority and elections are not far away. In the aftermath of the 2009 Euro elections in which a mixture of public disengagement with voting, the establishment of a PR based vote and outrage at labour inaction over Pakistani sexual abuse of children in wards where their vote was critical to labour success led to the election of Griffin and Brons as MEP's, the (now disgraced and disqualified for electoral law abuse) labour immigration minister Phil Woolas in the runup to the 2010 GE nicked several BNP Manifesto commitments and presented them as views Labour would implement, especially the requirement for those fleeing persecution to register and claim asylum in the first EU country they entered, and not wait until they reached the EU country they wished to move to, namely us.
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 24, 2024 18:54:50 GMT
Is there any legitimate reason why a cleric of any religion who is a citizen of another country shouldn't be ordered to leave if found to be "undesirable"? But I guess the idea could get a bit muddled if the deported pointed out that Britain of reserves seats in its legislature for clerics and has its head of state as the head of its established church... I think the point is the left have now put britain in a situation where most illegal immigrants fresh out of a rubber boat could commit rape, murder, arson, destruction of property on an industrial scale and round it off with a spot of public goat shagging, ALL while waving the black flag of ISIS, and a twat called Michael Clarke would STILL rock up and defend them against deportation even if the defendant was still shagging the goat in the dock in the courtroom….
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 24, 2024 20:37:24 GMT
The left havent put Britain in any position. Whatever it is you find fault with has been generated by the ridiculous right wing becoming even more right wing MadMax Tory governments of the last 15 or so years.
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 25, 2024 0:55:24 GMT
The left havent put Britain in any position. Whatever it is you find fault with has been generated by the ridiculous right wing becoming even more right wing MadMax Tory governments of the last 15 or so years. I think you will find the rot set in with Blair sending two ministers to India to fill jumbo jets with Indians with fake CVs who would get handed equally bogus fast tracked visas identifying them ac C++ and java programmers. This was the start of Labour's destruction of the UK as a single entity. I was able to get a select committee to deem Blair a liar who misled parliament (by falsifying a skills shortage) and have his scam terminated, but by then about 100,000 had got in and done the damage. And because Labour refused to expel them, the danage continued.
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Post by Handyman on Feb 25, 2024 9:03:28 GMT
We have not had a to the right Government in place since Thatcher, that is the problem the Left always claim wrongly the Tories are right wing when that is not the case.
Some post in here the its the BNP or EDL both of which not acceptable IMO to most voters combined they don't even have enough members to fill a football stadium , they are grossly outnumbered by the Far Left most if not all of the Political violence on our streets over the last 50 60 years has come from the Farl Left, not the Right.
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 25, 2024 9:11:39 GMT
The left havent put Britain in any position. Whatever it is you find fault with has been generated by the ridiculous right wing becoming even more right wing MadMax Tory governments of the last 15 or so years. I think you will find the rot set in with Blair sending two ministers to India to fill jumbo jets with Indians with fake CVs who would get handed equally bogus fast tracked visas identifying them ac C++ and java programmers. This was the start of Labour's destruction of the UK as a single entity. I was able to get a select committee to deem Blair a liar who misled parliament (by falsifying a skills shortage) and have his scam terminated, but by then about 100,000 had got in and done the damage. And because Labour refused to expel them, the danage continued. Are you seriously suggesting that one planeload of Indian programmers 25 years ago caused nearly 20 years of Tory mismanagement of the UK? Which is even more "interesting" after a steady stream of Tory MP's being caught and/or sacked for lying, including the Prime Minister? Or two Home Secretaries spending hundreds of millions of pounds trying to break international law on refugees with zero results? Or the clear Islamophobic lies told by Lee Anderson recently and had the whip removed? Post Brexit the Tory benches have been full of sexists, bigots and corrupt chancers. Hopefully they will be consigned to the dustbin soon. Gosh those programmers had superpowers.
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 25, 2024 9:15:01 GMT
We have not had a to the right Government in place since Thatcher, that is the problem the Left always claim wrongly the Tories are right wing when that is not the case. Some post in here the its the BNP or EDL both of which not acceptable IMO to most voters combined they don't even have enough members to fill a football stadium , they are grossly outnumbered by the Far Left most if not all of the Political violence on our streets over the last 50 60 years has come from the Farl Left, not the Right. Have you not heard of the ERG or a (very short-lived) ex Prime Minister delivering rabid right wing addresses to rabid right wing American devotees of Trump and declaring that "the deep state" in the UK destroyed her?
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Post by see2 on Feb 25, 2024 9:35:34 GMT
Well spotted H, excellent news. "The radical Imam Mahjoub Mahjoubi has just been expelled from France, less than 12 hours after his arrest".
France is a member of the ECHR and comes under the jurisdiction of the ECtHR, yet it seems France can deport undesirables less than 12 hours after arresting them. The reason we in the UK cant do the same is because of: 1. Lefty politicians 2. Lefty civil servants 3. Lefty Lawyers 4. Lefty NGO's A pox on all their houses. www.france24.com/en/africa/20240223-tunisian-imam-expelled-from-france-vows-to-appeal-decisionSimpleton comments like yours are seriously comical LOL The law was changed in France that allowed them to react so swiftly and deport the offender. So why doesn't the UK government follow suit, instead of leaving Righties like yourself space to make lying accusations against the Left?
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 25, 2024 11:42:21 GMT
Well spotted H, excellent news. "The radical Imam Mahjoub Mahjoubi has just been expelled from France, less than 12 hours after his arrest".
France is a member of the ECHR and comes under the jurisdiction of the ECtHR, yet it seems France can deport undesirables less than 12 hours after arresting them. The reason we in the UK cant do the same is because of: 1. Lefty politicians 2. Lefty civil servants 3. Lefty Lawyers 4. Lefty NGO's A pox on all their houses. www.france24.com/en/africa/20240223-tunisian-imam-expelled-from-france-vows-to-appeal-decisionSimpleton comments like yours are seriously comical LOL The law was changed in France that allowed them to react so swiftly and deport the offender. So why doesn't the UK government follow suit, instead of leaving Righties like yourself space to make lying accusations against the Left? Would the Labour Party support a change in the Law to make deportations easier?
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