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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 19, 2024 20:08:52 GMT
Off the top of my head... 1. Withdraw from the ECHR. 2. Withdraw from the jurisdiction of the ECtHR. 3. Stop hundreds of thousands of foreign illegals landing on English beaches. 4. Deport foreign prisoners. (Regardless of where they are from) 5. Clamp down on left wing lawyers and NGO's who protect foreign criminals. 6. Have a policy of British jobs for British people. 7. Have a policy of British homes for British people. 8. Stop the racist practice of diversity quotas. Lefties will of course be horrified at policies that put this country and British people first, but if this government adopted the above policies they would likely win the forthcoming election. I may have missed something, but I’m not aware that any of those BNP-type wailings were ever distinct Conservative policies — so I have to agree that you are probably spouting out of the top of your head… 'BNP type wailings'! I'm not quite sure what you're referring to?
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Post by zanygame on Feb 19, 2024 20:12:49 GMT
Wow every policy on immigrants. Nothing on the economy, NHS, What! ZG every one of the points I made would have a direct or indirect positive effect on the economy. Pretty narrow scope though.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 19, 2024 20:13:44 GMT
What! ZG every one of the points I made would have a direct or indirect positive effect on the economy. Pretty narrow scope though. LOL, if you say so.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 19, 2024 20:38:52 GMT
Pretty narrow scope though. LOL, if you say so. I do say so. With extra knobs on.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 19, 2024 20:59:24 GMT
I do say so. With extra knobs on. I decided to look through the entire chronology of GB News videos they had posted to YouTube to see if i could identify any patterns on subject matter. Aside from the odd bit of general headline news from Westminster etc, the vast bulk was immigration and the next was woke. I just wanted to check to see if it was just the AI serving me up endless repeats of a theme, but it was what they broadcast. I did that because i was wondering whether to block it since I'm getting sick to death of reading bollox on YT and need to kill off a few of the worst culprits.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 19, 2024 21:22:25 GMT
I do say so. With extra knobs on. I decided to look through the entire chronology of GB News videos they had posted to YouTube to see if i could identify any patterns on subject matter. Aside from the odd bit of general headline news from Westminster etc, the vast bulk was immigration and the next was woke. I just wanted to check to see if it was just the AI serving me up endless repeats of a theme, but it was what they broadcast. I did that because i was wondering whether to block it since I'm getting sick to death of reading bollox on YT and need to kill off a few of the worst culprits. That's a day you'll never get back.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 19, 2024 21:25:40 GMT
I decided to look through the entire chronology of GB News videos they had posted to YouTube to see if i could identify any patterns on subject matter. Aside from the odd bit of general headline news from Westminster etc, the vast bulk was immigration and the next was woke. I just wanted to check to see if it was just the AI serving me up endless repeats of a theme, but it was what they broadcast. I did that because i was wondering whether to block it since I'm getting sick to death of reading bollox on YT and need to kill off a few of the worst culprits. That's a day you'll never get back. I certainly didn't watch them all, just checked the titles.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 19, 2024 22:59:14 GMT
I decided to look through the entire chronology of GB News videos they had posted to YouTube to see if i could identify any patterns on subject matter. Aside from the odd bit of general headline news from Westminster etc, the vast bulk was immigration and the next was woke. I just wanted to check to see if it was just the AI serving me up endless repeats of a theme, but it was what they broadcast. I did that because i was wondering whether to block it since I'm getting sick to death of reading bollox on YT and need to kill off a few of the worst culprits. That's a day you'll never get back. It looks like the media is about to change...people are sick and tired of the lefty woke media and their constant bunch of bullshit.....
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Post by zanygame on Feb 20, 2024 8:55:00 GMT
I love the way these people always feel the need to drape themselves in flags. Like it makes them super British.
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Post by Hutchyns on Feb 20, 2024 10:55:38 GMT
zanygame I'd say it reflects different things for different people. If you take the Labour Party for instance, the flag is used as an important tool to counter the perception that they are rabidly anti-British. I remember a few years back reading a lengthy but interesting article by Matthew Goodwin explaining that all the focus group feedback analysing why Labour got a pasting from Boris' Tories at the General Election, was that Labour were perceived to be anti British. And of course, still fresh in the mind was the memory of certain Remainiac British politicians going over to collude with leading Eurocrats on how they could best defeat the British parliament and the will of the majority of the British people. Right or wrong on policy, Labour were viewed as always taking the side of the foreigner and never seemed to have a good word for Britain, its traditions, or for the ordinary white man in the street. Now of course we can and do laugh about it this new patriotic Labour, realising it's done 100% for presentation, and that the moment you scratch the surface it becomes clear that Starmer and Thornberry haven't changed a bit, but opening the Labour Party conference by singing the national anthem, plenty of Union Jacks about the place etc etc ..... it plays well even in the subconscious, and if it helps get the Party over the line, then best to let your true colours show through once, and not until, you're in power. It's crafty, it's insincere, but the feedback suggests it works, and so 'proud Britons' like our Shadow Cabinet will continue to extract every bit of benefit from the flag that their Spin Doctors assure them is proving to be a useful electoral asset. Patriots vote here ! Starmer's Labour Party .....for King/Queen and Country.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2024 11:13:54 GMT
I love the way these people always feel the need to drape themselves in flags. Like it makes them super British. I think the mullahs would still call him Iranian as he was born in Teheran. He's best to stay in Britain, though. He seems to be on the side of people who love Britain.
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Post by wapentake on Feb 20, 2024 11:56:30 GMT
Off the top of my head... 1. Withdraw from the ECHR. 2. Withdraw from the jurisdiction of the ECtHR. 3. Stop hundreds of thousands of foreign illegals landing on English beaches. 4. Deport foreign prisoners. (Regardless of where they are from) 5. Clamp down on left wing lawyers and NGO's who protect foreign criminals. 6. Have a policy of British jobs for British people. 7. Have a policy of British homes for British people. 8. Stop the racist practice of diversity quotas. Lefties will of course be horrified at policies that put this country and British people first, but if this government adopted the above policies they would likely win the forthcoming election. I may have missed something, but I’m not aware that any of those BNP-type wailings were ever distinct Conservative policies — so I have to agree that you are probably spouting out of the top of your head… I doubt he’s a bnp supporter.
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 20, 2024 13:09:56 GMT
...What schemes would Tory apologists here offer Conservative Campaign HQ — which must currently be feverishly trying to come up with smears of nuclear proportions — to knock Labour off its current trajectory towards victory… I'm far from being a Tory apologist, but it seems very clear to me that the 'business as usual', laisser-faire approach that you appear to be promoting in hoping that the Tories hew to 'traditional One Nation ethics and values' is not what the country needs considering the structural problems that afflict it. I suspect that many 'traditional' Conservative voters understand this instinctively.
A more radical programme is called for, one which creates clear blue water between the Conservatives and Labour.
What you propose is not going to do that.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 20, 2024 13:42:36 GMT
I love the way these people always feel the need to drape themselves in flags. Like it makes them super British. It rather depends which flag your talking about. I know which is my flag of choice, do you?
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Post by patman post on Feb 20, 2024 15:17:48 GMT
...What schemes would Tory apologists here offer Conservative Campaign HQ — which must currently be feverishly trying to come up with smears of nuclear proportions — to knock Labour off its current trajectory towards victory… I'm far from being a Tory apologist, but it seems very clear to me that the 'business as usual', laisser-faire approach that you appear to be promoting in hoping that the Tories hew to 'traditional One Nation ethics and values' is not what the country needs considering the structural problems that afflict it. I suspect that many 'traditional' Conservative voters understand this instinctively.
A more radical programme is called for, one which creates clear blue water between the Conservatives and Labour.
What you propose is not going to do that.
I'm not advocating a business as usual approach — far from it. For example, among the changes I'd propose would be stricter and more stringently monitored (and working?) immigration and work visa policies; real business, research and mega trade deals with other countries and tax levels to encourage such investment; encouragement and support for private landlords to invest in schemes for required housing; less pandering to, and a more radical approach to the growing pensioner constituency; reform of education through schooling, university, skills training, etc, with more relevancy to life and earning a living.
These proposals are ready for debate, criticism and to be added to. They, and others, could be effective moving a revitalised Conservative party away from the current Labour party that's chasing the current Brexit-Tory populism and past electoral success model — not just a plaintive call for "clear blue water" between the parties...
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