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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 19, 2024 15:31:41 GMT
And to think, none of it would have happened if Hamas had not attacked Israel. Or if Israel hadn't been plonked on Palestine by countries that colonised the Middle East and arbitrarily drew the boundaries around lands in the region... I think you're delving into the realms of whataboutery there Pat. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 15:33:11 GMT
he sounds a bit bonkers..  “Israel is not merely a state,” Mr Hagee said in his remarks on Tuesday.
“Israel is the apple of God’s eye, Israel is the shining city on the hill,” he added. “God says of Israel: Israel is my first-born son. Jerusalem is the city of God. Jerusalem is the shoreline of eternity. Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel today and forever.”It's a bit more than that the reason the some of the Jews complained about him Being on the March . Was because he's said that Hitler was a gift from. God because there was so many Jews in America a Complete nut case he's the founder of America for Zionist Israel. A mixed up Guy |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 15:36:27 GMT
he sounds a bit bonkers.. “Israel is not merely a state,” Mr Hagee said in his remarks on Tuesday.
“Israel is the apple of God’s eye, Israel is the shining city on the hill,” he added. “God says of Israel: Israel is my first-born son. Jerusalem is the city of God. Jerusalem is the shoreline of eternity. Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel today and forever.”As I said, without Israel being Jewish is meaningless . Jewish identity is Israel. That’s why they will do anything to keep it. Why are some orthodox jews against the State of Israel if it's the land of Jewish identity ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 15:39:54 GMT
There some unbalanced people about. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 15:49:26 GMT
More meaningless nonsense Absolutely Israel DOES have the right to defend itself, and yes I wholeheartedly agree 100% that Israel has every right to pursue those that were involved in the October 7th terror attack, but NO, absolutely NO they have no right to do what they have done to Gaza and the people who live there... And who was involved in the October 7th terror attack, do you think? Yes, it was Palestinians. Of course, the West call them “Hamas” and when they get killed in action, Hamas calls them Palestinian "civilians". And who voted Hamas into power? Oh yes, the very same Palestinian civilians. So just as you can't separate Israel from the Jews, you also can't separate the civilian population from Hamas. They are one and the same. Except when it suits your agenda, of course. The Israeli Defence Force are cowards, terrorists no better than Hamas, murderers and sub humanAnd there you have it: The very language of the anti-Semite. Don't know how you can call it Anti-Semitic when he's also condemned Hamas In the same breath. It might be a emotional but Anti-Semitic he'd not |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 19, 2024 15:52:35 GMT
As I said, without Israel being Jewish is meaningless . Jewish identity is Israel. That’s why they will do anything to keep it. Why are some orthodox jews against the State of Israel if it's the land of Jewish identity ? You need to ask them, not me. What do they have against state of Israel and how would that refute the fact that the Jewish homeland is the basis of Jewish identity ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 15:57:20 GMT
You are completely deluded, no matter which TV News we watch, BBC, SKY, ITN or whatever, we have all seen and heard the many harrowing stories of civilians killed, many many children, thousands of children, innocent families made homeless, faimilies with no mother or father, or both, parents who have lost children. We have all seen the utter devastation, entire districts flattened and turned into rubble, schools destroyed, entire townships and suburbs smashed to pieces, hundreds of dead bodies. The Israelis have killed thousands of civilans, bombing has very clearly been indiscriminate The terrorists of Hamas who brutally murdered 1 thosand Israelis are no different, no worse than the Israeli Defence Force, they are cowards. And to think, none of it would have happened if Hamas had not attacked Israel. No it wouldn't off but you can't justify Israel treatment of Palestinian people When they indiscriminately kill woman children and men for protesting. You being ex Army should know that. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 16:02:36 GMT
Why are some orthodox jews against the State of Israel if it's the land of Jewish identity ? You need to ask them, not me. What do they have against state of Israel and how would that refute the fact that the Jewish homeland is the basis of Jewish identity ? Because they believe it's a Zionist state. And Believe they will return to Israel once the Jewish Messiah Comes. And that's according to Jewish Scripture The Tohra Not saying that there right but it's What they believe |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 19, 2024 16:05:45 GMT
You need to ask them, not me. What do they have against state of Israel and how would that refute the fact that the Jewish homeland is the basis of Jewish identity ? Because they believe it's a Zionist state. And Believe they will return to Israel once the Jewish Messiah Comes. And that's according to Jewish Scripture The Tohra Not saying that there right but it's What they believe So how would that refute the fact that the Jewish homeland is the basis of Jewish identity ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 17:17:44 GMT
Because they believe it's a Zionist state. And Believe they will return to Israel once the Jewish Messiah Comes. And that's according to Jewish Scripture The Tohra Not saying that there right but it's What they believe So how would that refute the fact that the Jewish homeland is the basis of Jewish identity ? I avent don't you understand any I said some zioninst Jews don't believe that the state of Israel at the moment don't believe it's the Jewish home land Because it was built by Zioninst and not according to the scriptures I know you don't Understand that but that's not my. Problem. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 19, 2024 17:22:16 GMT
So how would that refute the fact that the Jewish homeland is the basis of Jewish identity ? I avent don't you understand any I said some zioninst Jews don't believe that the state of Israel at the moment don't believe it's the Jewish home land Because it was built by Zioninst and not according to the scriptures I know you don't Understand that but that's not my. Problem. So you think all Jews are defined by Jewish extremists ? Do you believe that all Muslims are defined by Islamic extremists ? where do the Jewish extremist believe their homeland is ? Golders Green? |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 19, 2024 17:39:14 GMT
‘Oct 7 pushed anti-Semitism over the edge, but it’s been happening for years’...... Fiona Sharpe has grown used to the “constant daily drip feed” of anti-Semitism in her day-to-day life. As someone who works in politics (a spokesperson for Labour Against Antisemitism), the 57-year-old from Brighton has noticed the abuse get immeasurably worse since the Hamas terror attacks against Israel on Oct 7 last year. But the build-up started long before.......
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 17:46:25 GMT
I avent don't you understand any I said some zioninst Jews don't believe that the state of Israel at the moment don't believe it's the Jewish home land Because it was built by Zioninst and not according to the scriptures I know you don't Understand that but that's not my. Problem. So you think all Jews are defined by Jewish extremists ? Do you believe that all Muslims are defined by Islamic extremists ? where do the Jewish extremist believe their homeland is ? Golders Green? No just pointing out what they believe I even. Said I don't believe that But it's what they believe Don't try and put such rubbish on me. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 19, 2024 17:50:00 GMT
So you think all Jews are defined by Jewish extremists ? Do you believe that all Muslims are defined by Islamic extremists ? where do the Jewish extremist believe their homeland is ? Golders Green? No just pointing out what they believe I even. Said I don't believe that But it's what they believe Don't try and put such rubbish on me. I’ll ask again how would that refute the fact that the Jewish homeland is the basis of Jewish identity ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 18:15:29 GMT
No just pointing out what they believe I even. Said I don't believe that But it's what they believe Don't try and put such rubbish on me. I’ll ask again how would that refute the fact that the Jewish homeland is the basis of Jewish identity ? would what refute the Jewish home land what Some orthodox Jews believe I don't think it does that why I said I don't believe what they say. |
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