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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 15:47:32 GMT
I extremely weird that a white English nationalist.I's against the left and any immigration of any sort. Supports the Jewish community in England. Or even has intrest Im other country affairs . Is that about me or B4? [b B4 posted on the wrong the thread sorry. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 15:52:01 GMT
Bad things happen in wars . In fact the side that wins usually does more bad things to the other side than the other side does to them . So you think illegal settlements in other people land is a part of war ? And has for the Hamas terrorist attack in Israel on October 7th While I'm not defending it would you say that was a part of war seeing bad things happen. Yes and yes. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 15:54:20 GMT
I extremely weird that a white English nationalist.I's against the left and any immigration of any sort. Supports the Jewish community in England. Or even has intrest Im other country affairs . Blimey, you just just can't stop personally smearing other members. What's a personal smear saying your a white English nationalist. Don't you go on the Scottish forum and call the Scottish nats anti English? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 15:58:01 GMT
So you think illegal settlements in other people land is a part of war ? And has for the Hamas terrorist attack in Israel on October 7th While I'm not defending it would you say that was a part of war seeing bad things happen. Yes and yes. OK I take it you don't condemned the Hamas terrorism then if it's just a part of war fare |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 16:00:36 GMT
OK I take it you don't condemned the Hamas terrorism then if it's just a part of war fare Oh I condemn it. It was stupid , cruel and has almost destroyed Gaza . I condemn all cruelty. I just realise it’s part of war . |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 16:06:54 GMT
OK I take it you don't condemned the Hamas terrorism then if it's just a part of war fare Oh I condemn it. It was stupid , cruel and has almost destroyed Gaza . I condemn all cruelty. I just realise it’s part of war . Let me qualify my comment above . Hamas could have accomplished it objective (ie goading a reaction) by merely killing Jews. It didn’t need to rape and mutilate but it did just the same ..just as ISIS did and other Islamic terrorists have in the past . |
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 18, 2024 16:24:52 GMT
Would any of the Right wing fanatics care to answer my question, seen as jonksy cant, or wont ? Why would it be a fair analogy to suppose that anyone who believes in supporting the Palestinian people, or the two state solution should be classed as Antisemitic, which is precisely what was suggested. Or are you all cowards ? Depends on what they believe. If they believe that Israel should leave itself open to its enemies then they are antisemitic . If they recognise that its enemies will never rest until Israel is destroyed then they are not antisemitic. Every road to a solution starts or stalls at either point . This poster here at least partially answers my question But first, lets look at what Antisemitism actually means, and its not complicated at all, it simply means racism towards Jewish people, hatred of Jewish people or anything similar such as the desire to commit crimes or genocide against people because they are Jewish. I am willing to bet anyone a pound to a penny that the overwhelming and vast majority of people on that march with Jeremy Corbyn ARE NOT RACISTS, are not Antisemites and are not anti Jewish, but many will be opposed to the Israeli government and the Israeli Defence Force. Going back to my original point against the poster ... jonksy ... I still call into question his outrageous assertion that people who march either in favour of the rights of the Palestinian people, or against what the government of Israel is doing IS NOT ANTISEMITIC. The word "Antisemitic" is bandied about far too much in the WRONG context |
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 18, 2024 16:27:24 GMT
Would any of the Right wing fanatics care to answer my question, seen as jonksy cant, or wont ? Why would it be a fair analogy to suppose that anyone who believes in supporting the Palestinian people, or the two state solution should be classed as Antisemitic, which is precisely what was suggested.Or are you all cowards ? Prove labour are not antisemite...But of course you haven't got the balls to admit that they are... Ridiculous post Asking anyone to prove that anyone IS NOT something, it doesnt work like that. If you believe that the Labour Party IS Antisemitic, its up to you to prove your accusation, not the other way around. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 16:27:27 GMT
Oh I condemn it. It was stupid , cruel and has almost destroyed Gaza . I condemn all cruelty. I just realise it’s part of war . Let me qualify my comment above . Hamas could have accomplished it objective (ie goading a reaction) by merely killing Jews. It didn’t need to rape and mutilate but it did just the same ..just as ISIS did and other Islamic terrorists have in the past . Unfortunately even that can.be a casualty of war . Not everyone plays by the Geneva comvensom |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 16:30:25 GMT
Depends on what they believe. If they believe that Israel should leave itself open to its enemies then they are antisemitic . If they recognise that its enemies will never rest until Israel is destroyed then they are not antisemitic. Every road to a solution starts or stalls at either point . This poster here at least partially answers my question But first, lets look at what Antisemitism actually means, and its not complicated at all, it simply means racism towards Jewish people, hatred of Jewish people or anything similar such as the desire to commit crimes or genocide against people because they are Jewish. I am willing to bet anyone a pound to a penny that the overwhelming and vast majority of people on that march with Jeremy Corbyn ARE NOT RACISTS, are not Antisemites and are not anti Jewish, but many will be opposed to the Israeli government and the Israeli Defence Force. Going back to my original point against the poster ... jonksy ... I still call into question his outrageous assertion that people who march either in favour of the rights of the Palestinian people, or against what the government of Israel is doing IS NOT ANTISEMITIC. The word "Antisemitic" is bandied about far too much in the WRONG context You can’t separate Jews and Israel . If you criticise the Jewish state you are criticising Jews. Let me repeat this I notice that the pro Palestinian protesters condemn Israel but not Hamas . I also notice that not one of the banners demand Hamas stop using Palestinians as human shields. The bias is so overwhelming but the lefties are blind to it. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 18, 2024 16:30:31 GMT
Prove labour are not antisemite...But of course you haven't got the balls to admit that they are... Its your excuses that are ridiculouse....Still we wouldn't expect anymore from you... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2024 16:31:18 GMT
Prove labour are not antisemite...But of course you haven't got the balls to admit that they are... Ridiculous post Asking anyone to prove that anyone IS NOT something, it doesnt work like that. If you believe that the Labour Party IS Antisemitic, its up to you to prove your accusation, not the other way around. It was proven, which is why the party was going through a purge to try and address the issue. Obviously, the problem is far worse than Labour lets on, which is why it's still going on today. If Labour addressed the problem properly, instead of projecting their racism onto others, then they'd lose their key support. This is why Starmer flip flops when ordered to by those who are only interested in votes.
It's a disgusting party.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 18, 2024 16:37:43 GMT
Anas Sarwar grilled over antisemitism......
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 18, 2024 16:40:30 GMT
Oh I condemn it. It was stupid , cruel and has almost destroyed Gaza . I condemn all cruelty. I just realise it’s part of war . Let me qualify my comment above . Hamas could have accomplished it objective (ie goading a reaction) by merely killing Jews. It didn’t need to rape and mutilate but it did just the same ..just as ISIS did and other Islamic terrorists have in the past . That is because Hamas are anti-Semitic depraved scum who believe that Jewish people are Kafir and therefore fair game for the worst possible treatment. And to support such is anti-Semitic.
And to draw a false equivalence between the actions of anti-Semitic depraved scum and the necessary actions of the recognised Jewish nation in defending itself is, of itself, anti-Semitic.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 16:40:38 GMT
Let me qualify my comment above . Hamas could have accomplished it objective (ie goading a reaction) by merely killing Jews. It didn’t need to rape and mutilate but it did just the same ..just as ISIS did and other Islamic terrorists have in the past . Unfortunately even that can.be a casualty of war . Not everyone plays by the Geneva comvensom Indeed. |
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