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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 16, 2024 10:22:48 GMT
Of course we want change but your little lefty mate would have us all beleive that our economy is toast and that is what I was replying too Andy.. It will be if Starmer gets in. If Sunak is a "Leftie" won't it be the same under Starmer? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 16, 2024 10:24:27 GMT
😂😂😂 Oh dear. No one thinks that. That's why everyone wants change, including yourself switching to Reform. Of course we want change but your little lefty mate would have us all beleive that our economy is toast and that is what I was replying too Andy.. So we both agree that we're not doing fine then. 👍 |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 10:27:30 GMT
Don't know what farage got to do with being Anything he's a none political. Enerty .7 failed attempt to get into the HOC Proves that . Some non entity lefty old bean...He got us the referendum in which your side lost,...LOL....I feel your pain....LOL did he really why was he not part of the official Brexit campaign because he was considered a libity if anything it was the official campaign that swing it in leave favour especially that Sickening end of Campaign speech by dishonest Johnson . Even Farage Said Brexit had failed. He definitely didn't read the room. Lol And I was talking about is attempts to get into HOC he's definitely a none entity . Lol |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2024 10:27:49 GMT
Of course we want change but your little lefty mate would have us all beleive that our economy is toast and that is what I was replying too Andy.. So we both agree that we're not doing fine then. 👍 We are financially that's far more than the EUSSR can state... |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 16, 2024 10:30:11 GMT
It will be if Starmer gets in. He will do what labour always do and leave the UK without a pot to piss in and an IOU in the safe mate.. Exactly, then when he's destroyed the country, hooked us back up with the EU, he'll piss off into so nice cushy number that he was promised by the EU if he did as he was told. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 16, 2024 10:31:22 GMT
So we both agree that we're not doing fine then. 👍 We are financially that's far more than the EUSSR can state... Oh dear. 😂 |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2024 10:33:52 GMT
We are financially that's far more than the EUSSR can state... Oh dear. 😂 Yes that's what your beloved EUSSR are stating as they slither down the pan... |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 10:35:43 GMT
I'm not sure you've read the situation correctly. Yes, they won the election in 2019, but to attribute that to Boris's popularity is almost certainly misguided. What you have to look at though is what happened to his popularity afterwards. He was certainly not popular at the time he resigned. Yes, Liz Truss took them lower, then Sunak is hovering at the same level. To blame all the Tory woes on Sunak is not reading the room. And to describe him as a lefty, well. 🙄 The people did not vote for Sunak at the 2019 GE, they voted for Johnson, if Sunak was Prime Minister at the time of the 2019 GE and not Johnson, I can guarantee you there would have been NO landslide victory for the Tories. FACT.
Sunak is woke, he's forever tiptoeing round virtue signalling snowflakes, why has he not stepped in with a review of the lenient sentences of the JSO protesters, why does he allow terrorists to protest march through
London, why hasn't he reviewed the lenient sentences of the 3 women terrorist protesters who were given a slap on the wrist by woke judge, why hasn't he demanded reprimand for the woke police who keep on harrasing innocent people of Christian faith.
You can only conclude he's a woke lefty, even more so than woke lefty Starmer.
For instance you want political interference in the law in this country are you really saying that . And you support democracy lol . |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 10:57:40 GMT
That's democracy according to a loser there already people showing their discuss at the voting system by destroying there votes. That happens in every constanicy across the country Would that be the Same democracy that allowed the unpleasant fascist party in Germany had soon they got into power Stopped the right to vote . Why am I a loser it’s the people and democracy who are the losers Oh I see so you think only people you deem pleasant are allowed to vote,is that your idea of what constitutes democracy? If people wish to vote for a party that is not proscribed that’s the very essence of a democratic right. There are plenty of unpleasant people get voted in to power Blair for one. What made Blair unpleasant I'm. Waiting Of course it democracy if you want to stop people who will end democracy. I think America Constitution supports that . I'm not saying American foreign. Policy supports Democracy but on the home front it's pretty good. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2024 11:36:09 GMT
Reform UK surge to their best ever by-election result - but how much of a threat do they pose at the general election? Will Nigel Farage return as leader? And what are their tax-cutting and 'net zero' immigration plans? Reform UK enjoyed their best ever performance at a by-election last night as they scooped 13 per cent of the vote in a third-placed finish in Wellingborough. The party founded by ex-UKIP leader Nigel Farage hailed a 'remarkable' result and said it showed how Britons are 'absolutely fed up' with how the country is being run. Their strong showing in Wellingborough was coupled with another third place in last night's other by-election in Kingswood, where they got 10 per cent of the vote. Election experts said the by-election results 'backed up' Reform's national opinion polling, which has seen the party hover around 10 per cent for a number of weeks. They also predicted Reform - formerly known as the Brexit Party - would be a 'significant player' at the general election as Tory worries of a significant split on the right of British politics continue to grow. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13091275/Reform-UK-surge-best-election-result-threat-pose-general-election-Nigel-Farage-return-leader-tax-cutting-net-zero-immigration-plans.html |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 16, 2024 11:45:46 GMT
Why am I a loser it’s the people and democracy who are the losers Oh I see so you think only people you deem pleasant are allowed to vote,is that your idea of what constitutes democracy? If people wish to vote for a party that is not proscribed that’s the very essence of a democratic right. There are plenty of unpleasant people get voted in to power Blair for one. Of course it democracy if you want to stop people who will end democracy. I think America Constitution supports that . I'm not saying American foreign. Policy supports Democracy but on the home front it's pretty good. For a number of years, there has been concern about the status of democracy, perhaps particularly in the more established democracies. Much of this is based on the decreasing levels of citizen participation at elections, which appear to indicate a lack of interest and involvement on the part of citizens. A low voter turnout calls into question the legitimacy of so-called democratically elected governments, which are, in some countries, actually elected by a minority of the total electorate Thats not a bad definition of what’s happening here and you think it’s democratic to stop people voting for a legally established party because you think peoples voting intentions are unpleasant,you do understand that a political party unless proscribed is entitled to stand and people whose views you don’t like are entitled to vote for that party? If you don’t know best carry on waiting |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 11:58:49 GMT
Of course it democracy if you want to stop people who will end democracy. I think America Constitution supports that . I'm not saying American foreign. Policy supports Democracy but on the home front it's pretty good. For a number of years, there has been concern about the status of democracy, perhaps particularly in the more established democracies. Much of this is based on the decreasing levels of citizen participation at elections, which appear to indicate a lack of interest and involvement on the part of citizens. A low voter turnout calls into question the legitimacy of so-called democratically elected governments, which are, in some countries, actually elected by a minority of the total electorate Thats not a bad definition of what’s happening here and you think it’s democratic to stop people voting for a legally established party because you think peoples voting intentions are unpleasant,you do understand that a political party unless proscribed is entitled to stand and people whose views you don’t like are entitled to vote for that party? If you don’t know best carry on waiting |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2024 12:49:44 GMT
For a number of years, there has been concern about the status of democracy, perhaps particularly in the more established democracies. Much of this is based on the decreasing levels of citizen participation at elections, which appear to indicate a lack of interest and involvement on the part of citizens. A low voter turnout calls into question the legitimacy of so-called democratically elected governments, which are, in some countries, actually elected by a minority of the total electorate Thats not a bad definition of what’s happening here and you think it’s democratic to stop people voting for a legally established party because you think peoples voting intentions are unpleasant,you do understand that a political party unless proscribed is entitled to stand and people whose views you don’t like are entitled to vote for that party? If you don’t know best carry on waiting Maybe the killing and maining of thousands of innocents had a part to play in it lefty old bean.. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 13:22:10 GMT
Maybe the killing and maining of thousands of innocents had a part to play in it lefty old bean.. Really yawn |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 16, 2024 13:36:38 GMT
Starmer will of course be claiming fantastic victories in last nights by-elections however, behind the scenes the Labour PR machine will I'm sure be more than a little concerned that had it not been for Reform UK taking 10% of the vote, the Tories would have held Kingswood.
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