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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2024 9:31:36 GMT
Maybe you will see when the vote will will mean something...ie the GE lefty old bean.. Well according to polls .local. elections and by-elections it's Labour Can't see a massive upset coming can you.? Well according to you the polls had it all wrong lefty old bean...Now you are stating they are the holy grail...Make your simple mind up lefty old bean..
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 16, 2024 9:31:54 GMT
I've edited my post as actually that was only true in Kingswood. If you don't vote, you don't get a say. We don't have compulsory voting in the UK, so you have the choice not to. However you can't choose not to vote and then complain about the outcome. Well you can actually Andrew,somebody can’t remember who recently posted on here that there should be a none of the above box on every ballot paper. Whilst it might seem like an empty gesture so is what is Buggins turn at Westminster where despite all the hype there’s little to choose from. Westminster and the voting system needs reforming,the lords club closing too and though we might see some unpleasant people elected that’s democracy for you. Don't necessarily disagree with you, but what would you propose as the outcome for "none of the above"?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 9:38:27 GMT
Don't know how the Express can have such headlines especially when you look. At the Wellingborough seat where reform.was tipped to win by some political pundits. Lol They finished 3rd .with 13 % of the vote and the cons on the last result lost 37.5 of the vote. I think the real Losers on. The day was lid bems being pushed into 4th place. No doubt the postoffice scandal. Badly effected the lib dem vote
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 16, 2024 9:42:14 GMT
Sunak is undoing all of Boris Johnson's good work, his landslide victory took seats from stronghold Labour constituencies, now thanks to lefty Sunak it's swinging back the other way, they got rid of Johnson, then Truss, but keeping hold of a much bigger liability to the Tories, they really must want to lose the next GE.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 9:49:44 GMT
I've edited my post as actually that was only true in Kingswood. If you don't vote, you don't get a say. We don't have compulsory voting in the UK, so you have the choice not to. However you can't choose not to vote and then complain about the outcome. Well you can actually Andrew,somebody can’t remember who recently posted on here that there should be a none of the above box on every 9ballot paper. Whilst it might seem like an empty gesture so is what is Buggins turn at Westminster where despite all the hype there’s little to choose from. Westminster and the voting system needs reforming,the lords club closing too and though we might see some unpleasant people elected that’s democracy for you. That's democracy according to a loser there already people showing their discuss at the voting system by destroying there votes. That happens in every constanicy across the country Would that be the Same democracy that allowed the unpleasant fascist party in Germany had soon they got into power Stopped the right to vote . That's what happens giving unpleasant people the Democratic vote.
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Post by wapentake on Feb 16, 2024 9:51:11 GMT
Well you can actually Andrew,somebody can’t remember who recently posted on here that there should be a none of the above box on every ballot paper. Whilst it might seem like an empty gesture so is what is Buggins turn at Westminster where despite all the hype there’s little to choose from. Westminster and the voting system needs reforming,the lords club closing too and though we might see some unpleasant people elected that’s democracy for you. Don't necessarily disagree with you, but what would you propose as the outcome for "none of the above"? Well the last two lines of my post should do it,hammer the message home and get some form of voting system that truly reflects what people want.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2024 9:51:45 GMT
Nigel Farage rips apart new Labour MP for 'dullest interview' in snap by-election reaction...
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 9:52:28 GMT
Well according to polls .local. elections and by-elections it's Labour Can't see a massive upset coming can you.? Well according to you the polls had it all wrong lefty old bean...Now you are stating they are the holy grail...Make your simple mind up lefty old bean.. What polls have I said are all wrong I've consistently posted polls in favour of Labour since early. Last year What are you on about
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2024 9:53:38 GMT
Well you can actually Andrew,somebody can’t remember who recently posted on here that there should be a none of the above box on every 9ballot paper. Whilst it might seem like an empty gesture so is what is Buggins turn at Westminster where despite all the hype there’s little to choose from. Westminster and the voting system needs reforming,the lords club closing too and though we might see some unpleasant people elected that’s democracy for you. That's what happens giving unpleasant people the Democratic vote. States a remainer FFS
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 16, 2024 9:57:09 GMT
Nigel Farage rips apart new Labour MP for 'dullest interview' in snap by-election reaction...
He must take after his leader.
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 16, 2024 9:57:33 GMT
Sunak is undoing all of Boris Johnson's good work, his landslide victory took seats from stronghold Labour constituencies, now thanks to lefty Sunak it's swinging back the other way, they got rid of Johnson, then Truss, but keeping hold of a much bigger liability to the Tories, they really must want to lose the next GE. I'm not sure you've read the situation correctly. Yes, they won the election in 2019, but to attribute that to Boris's popularity is almost certainly misguided. What you have to look at though is what happened to his popularity afterwards. He was certainly not popular at the time he resigned. Yes, Liz Truss took them lower, then Sunak is hovering at the same level. To blame all the Tory woes on Sunak is not reading the room. And to describe him as a lefty, well. 🙄
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 16, 2024 9:58:58 GMT
Well the last two lines of my post should do it,hammer the message home and get some form of voting system that truly reflects what people want. What are you talking about? Why am I a loser,it’s democracy and the people who are the losers. Think you've quoted the wrong post.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 10:00:03 GMT
Nigel Farage rips apart new Labour MP for 'dullest interview' in snap by-election reaction...
Don't know what farage got to do with being Anything he's a none political. Enerty .7 failed attempt to get into the HOC Proves that .
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 16, 2024 10:00:39 GMT
Don't necessarily disagree with you, but what would you propose as the outcome for "none of the above"? Well the last two lines of my post should do it,hammer the message home and get some form of voting system that truly reflects what people want. Proportional Representation? If so, I think we're on the same page here.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2024 10:01:16 GMT
Sunak is undoing all of Boris Johnson's good work, his landslide victory took seats from stronghold Labour constituencies, now thanks to lefty Sunak it's swinging back the other way, they got rid of Johnson, then Truss, but keeping hold of a much bigger liability to the Tories, they really must want to lose the next GE. I'm not sure you've read the situation correctly. Yes, they won the election in 2019, but to attribute that to Boris's popularity is almost certainly misguided. What you have to look at though is what happened to his popularity afterwards. He was certainly not popular at the time he resigned. Yes, Liz Truss took them lower, then Sunak is hovering at the same level. To blame all the Tory woes on Sunak is not reading the room. And to describe him as a lefty, well. 🙄 Expain the difference between sunaks poilicies to those of labour? And Boris won a huge majority becouse he could READ the room..
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