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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 21:32:14 GMT
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 15, 2022 21:32:14 GMT
So it isn't luxurious then. We got there. It looks like it's out of your price range, not been funny like lol Either show I can't afford £104 or retract that. |
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 22:45:22 GMT
Post by Steve on Nov 15, 2022 22:45:22 GMT
£104 is luxurious? Seriously? 🤔 It's how it's described, take it up with the people who review the hotel, not me. It gets mixed reviews on Trip Advisor. Of course it will describe itself as luxurious - self descriptions mean nothing. |
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Asylum
Nov 16, 2022 8:47:22 GMT
Post by sheepy on Nov 16, 2022 8:47:22 GMT
Maybe, but then I remember the uproar and all the lies trying to cover it up, when people said they were being put up in hotels. I never saw anyone deny they were being put up in hotels The problem is the Home Office has run out of cheap hotel accomodation so are making deals with 3 and 4 star hotels and the likes of the Daily Mail will be wildly exaggerating knowing mugs will believe them. There's plenty of room at Manston to build our own Guantanamo But then, there was whether you saw it or didn't see it, all the usual denials and name calling, now it has as usual reached a crisis level, which the government is still trying to buy its way out of, which has already failed several times. I couldn't careless about the hotel star rating, the whole thing stinks of bad management and greed. A country that cannot control its own borders is no longer a country. But merely a state controlled from elsewhere. |
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Nov 16, 2022 8:55:47 GMT
Post by zanygame on Nov 16, 2022 8:55:47 GMT
The facility at Longstanton Cambridge, not far from me is still sitting there well maintained and empty.
I really don't understand why anyone escaping famine or war would be upset if they were offered a safe place with a roof, heat, light, food, water and medical help. If it were me I would be so grateful.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 16, 2022 8:58:20 GMT
The intelligent ones on here which excludes you will easily discover the Snowdonia Hilton Hotel is a luxury venue for Weddings, my daughters wedding (not there) was £31,500, I should know, I paid for it. Weddings involve far more than just a room as you must know if you paid for it. My sons wedding was on a farm. Beautiful old buildings, wonderful grounds, all the trimmings you'd expect. But that didn't make the farm a five star hotel. |
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Asylum
Nov 16, 2022 9:39:09 GMT
Post by Steve on Nov 16, 2022 9:39:09 GMT
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Asylum
Nov 16, 2022 11:11:58 GMT
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Post by zanygame on Nov 16, 2022 11:11:58 GMT
That rather depends on where the asylum seekers are housed. If they are in a wing you might never even know they are there.
Certainly cant see them stopping the wedding venue from working, anymore than any other guests staying would.
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Post by Orac on Nov 16, 2022 11:42:07 GMT
The facility at Longstanton Cambridge, not far from me is still sitting there well maintained and empty. I really don't understand why anyone escaping famine or war would be upset if they were offered a safe place with a roof, heat, light, food, water and medical help. If it were me I would be so grateful. A person who was genuinely fleeing war or famine would be eternally grateful for bare barracks-style accommodation and rations. |
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Nov 16, 2022 11:44:48 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on Nov 16, 2022 11:44:48 GMT
It's jaw dropping we have a housing shortage, and a young child dies in a mold infested flat, while fit young healthy men are being put up in luxury accommodation with 3 meals a day, swimming pool, spa, in a luxury hotel overlooking a lagoon FFS
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Asylum
Nov 16, 2022 11:46:33 GMT
Post by Orac on Nov 16, 2022 11:46:33 GMT
If influential people are making money from it (and they are), it isn't going to stop on its own.
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Asylum
Nov 16, 2022 11:51:04 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on Nov 16, 2022 11:51:04 GMT
If influential people are making money from it (and they are), it isn't going to stop on its own. There is a law against it..
When you profiteer, you don't just profit — you profit more than you should at the expense of someone else. You can also call a person who does this a profiteer. Profiteers famously take advantage of things like scarce food or ongoing conflicts to make a lot of money.
The 'expense of someone else' is us the UK tax payers.
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Nov 16, 2022 12:08:49 GMT
Post by Orac on Nov 16, 2022 12:08:49 GMT
FairSoc. -
Unfortunately, your objection is a matter of judgment and that judgment would rest with the government.
The actual reality is a fair bit worse than you have so far painted it. Turning our hotels into refugee camps is probably one of the less offensive side of the whole matter. We can all carry on without some hotels.
The government is launching a general appeal for landlords to house 'asylum seekers'. A third party intermediary has a lucrative government contract to source accommodation from our private market for these people. Because this is government backed, the offer they can make to private landlords easily outcompetes the abilities of normal tenants - I believe landlords are being offered five years government funded rent up-front. This means a private tenant in the UK may potentially find himself working and paying taxes to fund his own eviction, so his landlord can collect five years of assured government funded rent and the assurance that all damages will be covered without argument.
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Asylum
Nov 16, 2022 12:12:34 GMT
Post by Handyman on Nov 16, 2022 12:12:34 GMT
The facility at Longstanton Cambridge, not far from me is still sitting there well maintained and empty. I really don't understand why anyone escaping famine or war would be upset if they were offered a safe place with a roof, heat, light, food, water and medical help. If it were me I would be so grateful. I agree |
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Nov 16, 2022 12:29:24 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on Nov 16, 2022 12:29:24 GMT
FairSoc. - Unfortunately, your objection is a matter of judgment and that judgment would rest with the government. The actual reality is a fair bit worse than you have so far painted it. Turning our hotels into refugee camps is probably one of the less offensive side of the whole matter. We can all carry on without some hotels. The government is launching a general appeal for landlords to house 'asylum seekers'. A third party intermediary has a lucrative government contract to source accommodation from our private market for these people. Because this is government backed, the offer they can make to private landlords easily outcompetes the abilities of normal tenants - I believe landlords are being offered five years government funded rent up-front. This means a private tenant in the UK may potentially find himself working and paying taxes to fund his own eviction, so his landlord can collect five years of assured government funded rent and the assurance that all damages will be covered without argument. What happens when this all backfires?
Look what's happened to children placed in foster care who went on to be abused by their foster carers, they are now seeking compensation from the government.
Or the those suing the transgender clinic Tavistock.
What happens when these asylum seekers turn on their hosts, I can see big claims against the government, because most of these so called asylum seekers we have no record of their past, they could be pedophiles or rapists being placed in homes with children, it's all going to end in tears.... without a doubt.
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Post by Tinculin on Nov 16, 2022 12:40:50 GMT
It's a fuckin luxury hotel <editted>, no asylum seekers should be there <editted>, it's because of <editted> like you that this is allowed to happen, deadheads who think it's fine to use luxury hotels to house illegal migrants mainly Albanian young men, at the cost to the tax payer, <editted>. - I’ve edited your post and removed the name calling. I get we have times we’re venting, passionate, frustrated or just having a bad day, but let’s please cut back on the personal attacks. Thanks - T |
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