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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 8, 2024 17:43:17 GMT
Jumped up unelected bureaucrats are attempting to meddle in UK law again.
The new strike laws allow train operators to force staff to attend work, in order to ensure they can run up to 40 per cent of their usual services. The EU has accused the UK of potentially breaching the terms of its Brexit agreement with the new crackdown on strike action.
Brussels is considering triggering a formal dispute with the UK Government as a result of the new minimum service laws - link
Thing is, many EU states have minimum service laws that are more draconian than anything proposed in this country. Just listened to some professor of economics who is of the opinion this is nothing more than bluff and bluster from Brexit hating Guy Verhofstad.
You will be unsurprised that Starmer has pledged to meekly obey EU diktats and repeal minimum service legislation if Labour win the next election, quelle surprise.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 8, 2024 18:10:07 GMT
Jumped up unelected bureaucrats are attempting to meddle in UK law again.
The new strike laws allow train operators to force staff to attend work, in order to ensure they can run up to 40 per cent of their usual services. The EU has accused the UK of potentially breaching the terms of its Brexit agreement with the new crackdown on strike action. Brussels is considering triggering a formal dispute with the UK Government as a result of the new minimum service laws - link Thing is, many EU states have minimum service laws that are more draconian than anything proposed in this country. Just listened to some professor of economics who is of the opinion this is nothing more than bluff and bluster from Brexit hating Guy Verhofstad. You will be unsurprised that Starmer has pledged to meekly obey EU diktats and repeal minimum service legislation if Labour win the next election, quelle surprise. Well at least we got out of the bloody shithole EU. This kind of thing reassures me we made the right decision. Starmer will have to face the people if he goes along with it. People really hate it if they can't get around. Train drivers are already paid a ridiculous wage.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 8, 2024 18:16:05 GMT
Well at least we got out of the bloody shithole EU. This kind of thing reassures me we made the right decision. Starmer will have to face the people if he goes along with it. People really hate it if they can't get around. Train drivers are already paid a ridiculous wage. Thing is, people who intend to vote Labour already know Starmer is pro EU, indeed left wing remainiacs will vote for Starmer because Labour are pro EU.
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Post by patman post on Feb 8, 2024 18:23:44 GMT
Jumped up unelected bureaucrats are attempting to meddle in UK law again.
The new strike laws allow train operators to force staff to attend work, in order to ensure they can run up to 40 per cent of their usual services. The EU has accused the UK of potentially breaching the terms of its Brexit agreement with the new crackdown on strike action. Brussels is considering triggering a formal dispute with the UK Government as a result of the new minimum service laws - link Thing is, many EU states have minimum service laws that are more draconian than anything proposed in this country. Just listened to some professor of economics who is of the opinion this is nothing more than bluff and bluster from Brexit hating Guy Verhofstad. You will be unsurprised that Starmer has pledged to meekly obey EU diktats and repeal minimum service legislation if Labour win the next election, quelle surprise. Well at least we got out of the bloody shithole EU. This kind of thing reassures me we made the right decision. Starmer will have to face the people if he goes along with it. People really hate it if they can't get around. Train drivers are already paid a ridiculous wage. But what's got better for the ordinary person, including train drivers, since the UK left the EU?
There are still strikes (in NHS, transport, university and schools), immigration continues apace, the cost of living still rises, NHS dentistry and drugs are in short supply, rents up — what has actually improved...?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 8, 2024 19:27:05 GMT
Well at least we got out of the bloody shithole EU. This kind of thing reassures me we made the right decision. Starmer will have to face the people if he goes along with it. People really hate it if they can't get around. Train drivers are already paid a ridiculous wage. But what's got better for the ordinary person, including train drivers, since the UK left the EU?
There are still strikes (in NHS, transport, university and schools), immigration continues apace, the cost of living still rises, NHS dentistry and drugs are in short supply, rents up — what has actually improved...?
It's more a case of what has not got worse. The EU continues to screw European countries with socialist idiocy. By the way, 3-year gilts have dropped from 5.2% mid last year to around 4.2% now. Rishi appears to have managed to reverse the economic decline from the Johnson era. The thing is in economics there is always going to be a lag between cause and effect. The effects of Johnson are still with us but gradually things are being sorted, such as UK-EU trade problems and reconfiguring supply chains. By being out of the EU and the freedom it gives us the financial markets will see it as an advantage over EU governance. We can tailor our policies to UK needs. The thing was when Johnson was in power he recruited a load of jerks that were obedient to him. They were not too smart, so caused more problems than they fixed. Now he is out, the Johnson jerks are out of power. I guess the big question is whether Rishi's economic fixes will bear sufficient fruit before the election. Looking at GDP growth though we are at least in the positive. It's Russia which is growing faster than most other industrialised countries. How ironic.
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Post by patman post on Feb 8, 2024 19:48:28 GMT
But what's got better for the ordinary person, including train drivers, since the UK left the EU?
There are still strikes (in NHS, transport, university and schools), immigration continues apace, the cost of living still rises, NHS dentistry and drugs are in short supply, rents up — what has actually improved...?
It's more a case of what has not got worse. The EU continues to screw European countries with socialist idiocy. By the way, 3-year gilts have dropped from 5.2% mid last year to around 4.2% now. Rishi appears to have managed to reverse the economic decline from the Johnson era. The thing is in economics there is always going to be a lag between cause and effect. The effects of Johnson are still with us but gradually things are being sorted, such as UK-EU trade problems and reconfiguring supply chains. By being out of the EU and the freedom it gives us the financial markets will see it as an advantage over EU governance. We can tailor our policies to UK needs. The thing was when Johnson was in power he recruited a load of jerks that were obedient to him. They were not too smart, so caused more problems than they fixed. Now he is out, the Johnson jerks are out of power. I guess the big question is whether Rishi's economic fixes will bear sufficient fruit before the election. Looking at GDP growth though we are at least in the positive. It's Russia which is growing faster than most other industrialised countries. How ironic. That's just word salad to cover up the fact that little if anything has improved for the ordinary person in the UK since it left the EU.
Whose fault you say that is, and promises of better times ahead, don't alter the fact that most people are worse off or just treading water.
The UK is in danger of becoming a stagflation nation, where low growth and high inequality — substantial issues on their own — together can create a toxic combination...
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Post by Bentley on Feb 8, 2024 19:52:13 GMT
Well at least the EX remainers have given up the project fear . Now they are into project not better off .
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Post by patman post on Feb 8, 2024 20:24:06 GMT
Well at least the EX remainers have given up the project fear . Now they are into project not better off . The predictions that turned into reality!
What happened to cheaper food, controlled immigration, and these wonderful wealth-creating trade deals...?
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Post by Bentley on Feb 8, 2024 20:43:41 GMT
Well at least the EX remainers have given up the project fear . Now they are into project not better off . The predictions that turned into reality!
What happened to cheaper food, controlled immigration, and these wonderful wealth-creating trade deals...?
Early days PO just like your net zero dreams . What happened to project fear ? It turned into project whine .
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Post by patman post on Feb 8, 2024 21:03:37 GMT
The predictions that turned into reality!
What happened to cheaper food, controlled immigration, and these wonderful wealth-creating trade deals...?
Early days PO just like your net zero dreams . What happened to project fear ? It turned into project whine . Early days PO? It was certainly better in Victorian times when Anthony Trollope was an inspector.
As for project whine, I'll drop the h and continue with my favourite EU wines, though the limits now are annoying, as is the extra time and effort now needed to cross The Channel, and the limited amount of time I can spend there — though luckily Mrs and the family have no such restrictions...
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Post by Bentley on Feb 8, 2024 21:09:10 GMT
Early days PO just like your net zero dreams . What happened to project fear ? It turned into project whine . Early days PO? It was certainly better in Victorian times when Anthony Trollope was an inspector.
As for project whine, I'll drop the h and continue with my favourite EU wines, though the limits now are annoying, as is the extra time and effort now needed to cross The Channel, and the limited amount of time I can spend there — though luckily Mrs and the family have no such restrictions...
When you leave an abusing partnership , it sometimes takes time to recover . Try new world wines . There is a whole world outside of the EU. Don’t let other ex remainers convince you otherwise.
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 8, 2024 22:37:49 GMT
The whole idea of strikes is to cause disruption as a protest over either working conditions, terms or pay.
The Only exemptions should be the Armed Forces, Police, anything affecting National Security or where there may be a direct threat to life, nothing else should be exempt to strikes.
The fact that people may be inconvenienced because a bus or train does not turn up, is imaterial, it is not a valid reason for banning strike action, or limiting strike action on public transport.
This law is an attack on basic workers rights, it makes strike action a useless, pointless excercise, and I hope the TUC will relentlessly fight this proposed law until the Tories are gone, which hopefuly is not too far away.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 8, 2024 22:39:56 GMT
It's more a case of what has not got worse. The EU continues to screw European countries with socialist idiocy. By the way, 3-year gilts have dropped from 5.2% mid last year to around 4.2% now. Rishi appears to have managed to reverse the economic decline from the Johnson era. The thing is in economics there is always going to be a lag between cause and effect. The effects of Johnson are still with us but gradually things are being sorted, such as UK-EU trade problems and reconfiguring supply chains. By being out of the EU and the freedom it gives us the financial markets will see it as an advantage over EU governance. We can tailor our policies to UK needs. The thing was when Johnson was in power he recruited a load of jerks that were obedient to him. They were not too smart, so caused more problems than they fixed. Now he is out, the Johnson jerks are out of power. I guess the big question is whether Rishi's economic fixes will bear sufficient fruit before the election. Looking at GDP growth though we are at least in the positive. It's Russia which is growing faster than most other industrialised countries. How ironic. That's just word salad to cover up the fact that little if anything has improved for the ordinary person in the UK since it left the EU. Whose fault you say that is, and promises of better times ahead, don't alter the fact that most people are worse off or just treading water. The UK is in danger of becoming a stagflation nation, where low growth and high inequality — substantial issues on their own — together can create a toxic combination...
How would being a member of the EU change that? - I only ask because up until 4 years ago the UK was in the EU for 4 decades and I am unaware of any major changes in the past 4 years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 23:58:57 GMT
That's just word salad to cover up the fact that little if anything has improved for the ordinary person in the UK since it left the EU. Whose fault you say that is, and promises of better times ahead, don't alter the fact that most people are worse off or just treading water. The UK is in danger of becoming a stagflation nation, where low growth and high inequality — substantial issues on their own — together can create a toxic combination...
How would being a member of the EU change that? - I only ask because up until 4 years ago the UK was in the EU for 4 decades and I am unaware of any major changes in the past 4 years. Good luck getting an answer.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 9, 2024 3:06:19 GMT
It's more a case of what has not got worse. The EU continues to screw European countries with socialist idiocy. By the way, 3-year gilts have dropped from 5.2% mid last year to around 4.2% now. Rishi appears to have managed to reverse the economic decline from the Johnson era. The thing is in economics there is always going to be a lag between cause and effect. The effects of Johnson are still with us but gradually things are being sorted, such as UK-EU trade problems and reconfiguring supply chains. By being out of the EU and the freedom it gives us the financial markets will see it as an advantage over EU governance. We can tailor our policies to UK needs. The thing was when Johnson was in power he recruited a load of jerks that were obedient to him. They were not too smart, so caused more problems than they fixed. Now he is out, the Johnson jerks are out of power. I guess the big question is whether Rishi's economic fixes will bear sufficient fruit before the election. Looking at GDP growth though we are at least in the positive. It's Russia which is growing faster than most other industrialised countries. How ironic. That's just word salad to cover up the fact that little if anything has improved for the ordinary person in the UK since it left the EU.
Whose fault you say that is, and promises of better times ahead, don't alter the fact that most people are worse off or just treading water.
The UK is in danger of becoming a stagflation nation, where low growth and high inequality — substantial issues on their own — together can create a toxic combination...
I was saying it has just turned the corner so it is lifting out of a low point. It's not just the level it is at, but the rate of change, which has flipped from negative to positive. regarding inequality, perhaps if we threw these third worlders out then that would lift it up a fair bit.
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