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Post by Vinny on Feb 6, 2024 18:38:25 GMT
After winning the General Election of 1945, he's very fondly remembered by the Labour Party, and much loved.
Lets talk about his biggest mistakes.
I suppose the biggest mistake of any elected British Prime Minister in history would be this: The Partition of India which triggered ethnic clashes that left over a million dead.
There were obviously a lot more cock ups, but if I list them all, then I leave no room for you to add to this.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 6, 2024 18:47:44 GMT
The Town and Country Planning Act 1947 and choosing the wrong model for the NHS - should have listened to Herbert Morrison.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 6, 2024 20:38:26 GMT
The Town and Country Planning Act 1947 and choosing the wrong model for the NHS - should have listened to Herbert Morrison. Actually, and in saying this I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but, and lefties will choke on this, it was the Tories who first came up with the idea of the NHS. Or to be precise: in 1944 the Tory led coalition published a white paper which set out the need for a 'free and comprehensive healthcare service'. Unfortunately Labour won the 1945 election and stole a Conservative idea that became the NHS.  |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 6, 2024 23:43:22 GMT
The man gave Rolls Royce Nene jet engines to Stalin which were then reverse engineered and built without licence. Result? This bastard thing.  And RAF servicemen lost their lives because of that decision. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 7, 2024 1:21:11 GMT
During the 1950's we, the 'British' were world leaders when it came to aircraft design and technology. We were well ahead of the US, the Soviets were well behind. Inevitably as the 1950's moved through the 1960's and into the 1970's our defence budget went down and we lost our lead to the US. The final nail in the UK forces coffin was November 1989. We were told the collapse of communism meant peace in Europe. Ha. I remember Tom King telling us how we no longer needed such a large army as politicians set about slashing the defence budget... I may be digressing.
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Post by dappy on Feb 7, 2024 12:14:37 GMT
Have we been invaded since 1989 Red?
Seems he was right then.
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 7, 2024 13:07:56 GMT
The biggest blunder of all was the British Nationality Act of 1948 which codified the right of 600 million Commonwealth citizens to enter and settle in the United Kingdom.
It's the reason why the Empire Windrush, which was being shadowed by the cruiser HMS Sheffield, was not intercepted and returned to Jamaica. It's also the reason why successive governments were paralysed into inaction by the ensuing 'coloured' immigration, a situation not addressed even partially until 1962.
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Post by patman post on Feb 7, 2024 15:23:22 GMT
The man gave Rolls Royce Nene jet engines to Stalin which were then reverse engineered and built without licence. Result? This bastard thing. And RAF servicemen lost their lives because of that decision. Plenty of sailors also lost their lives supplying weapons and other goods to the USSR, which was an ally at the time:
Parliamentary reply, 16 April 1946, by The Prime Minister (Mr. Attlee)
Yes, Sir. I am circulating a full statement in the OFFICIAL REPORT. The House may like to have the following summary of this. In the period from 1st October, 1941, to 31st March, 1946, we supplied to the Soviet Union 5,218 tanks, of which 1,388 were from Canada. We supplied 7,411 aircraft, including 3,129 aircraft sent from the United States of America. As previously explained on the 10th May, 1944, the aircraft from the United States of America were sent on United States Lend Lease to the Soviet Union as part of the British commitment to the U.S.S.R. in exchange for the supply of British aircraft to United States Forces in the European Theatre. The total value of military supplies despatched amounts to approximately £308 million. We have also sent about £120 million of raw materials, foodstuffs, machinery, industrial plant, medical supplies and hospital equipment.
We are very glad to have been able to give this assistance to our Soviet Allies and to have helped to equip and sustain them in their bitter struggle against the common enemy.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 7, 2024 17:46:00 GMT
The man gave Rolls Royce Nene jet engines to Stalin which were then reverse engineered and built without licence. Result? This bastard thing. And RAF servicemen lost their lives because of that decision. Plenty of sailors also lost their lives supplying weapons and other goods to the USSR, which was an ally at the time: No they were not - this was at the start of the Cold war and Russia was our enemy. With Russian engine technology lagging well behind that of their western counterparts, in April 1946 Joseph Stalin made a request to the UK Government for the sale of Rolls-Royce Nene and Derwent turbojet engines, which at the time were the most advanced in the world.
To Stalin’s amazement, Attlee approved the request – with the proviso that the engines not be used for military purposes.
“The decision that these Rolls-Royce jet engines should be sold to the Russians was taken by the Prime Minister, despite opposition from the Foreign Office, Air Ministry and the Chiefs of Staff.”Why Attlee's decision to send Rolls Royce jet engines to Stalin caused outrage in Washington |
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Post by patman post on Feb 7, 2024 18:04:50 GMT
What are you disagreeing with?
The USSR was an ally during WWII, which is why the UK and the US were shipping arms to it and suffering great losses to their merchant shipping. The Cold War is generally recognised as having begun/started/gelled in 1947/8…
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 7, 2024 18:05:57 GMT
"No they were not - this was at the start of the Cold war and Russia was our enemy."
Not in 1946 they weren't. The beginning of the Cold War is usually associated with the Truman Doctrine, announced in March 1947, and which called for the 'containment' of the Soviet Union. It's still US policy today.
Besides which Attlee would have known that the Soviets could reverse engineer anything they needed, as they did with the B-29.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 7, 2024 18:22:45 GMT
The start of the Cold War began after Stalins hostile speech in Feb 1946 describing communism & capitalism as incompatible - which then led Churchill to respond in March with his "Sinews of Peace" Speech - "an "iron curtain" has descended on Europe"
Russia ceased being our ally after VJ Day - by the time Attlee started shipping them high tech they were the enemy.
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 7, 2024 18:31:29 GMT
You're parroting propaganda not history.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 7, 2024 18:47:04 GMT
No - both speeches actually happened and in 1945 the UK (and US) were devising war plans for an attack on Russian Troops in Eastern Europe.
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