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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 13, 2022 21:43:22 GMT
There are trolls, as we all know, but disaster trolls are something else entirely. Well to be frank, I nicked the title from the BBC radio series of the same name. It's a series of documentary programmes on the Alex Jones and Q-Anon (not sure of the spelling but pronounced as such) types. What they have in common is a conspiracy that all media disasters are staged. I'm guessing this developed as an extension of the 9/11 stuff which attracted all manner of whacky explanations, and then there was the 7/7 underground attack in London which likewise attracted those of a conspiratorial nature. Now somehow over the years these ideas that governments mount these attack on purpose to scare us has morphed into the unlikely scenario of every one is now fake. The screams from news footage are simply acting and just as a Hollywood production is done. It looks so real, yet they say it is not.
You might react to this and think total bullshit and why are we even talking about it. Well first off the BBC sees it as important enough to make a whole series to denigrate these madmen and belittle them and spite them. Yes we have seen it all before. Anyone who is not on the BBC's wavelength, like say critics of woke, will get the propaganda treatment. However this is the thing that got me thinking about it. Really what has it to do with the BBC and why BBC knickers in a a twist about something no one sensible would take seriously?
Well to answer that one has to look into how memes work. The message needs to be simple, it needs to accord with a common thing people experience (in this case Hollywood disaster films) and you need a benefit payload too. The benefit here is you don't need to fear anything any more that comes on the radio. You can relax and feel much better knowing terrorists are just actors with toy guns.
Lets get back to reality and look at two things. First fact is as a citizen of Blighty, death by terrorism right now is so remote that you should probably be in greater fear of being killed by your dog or some weird shit. The stats are super low. The perception of danger though is millions of times higher, and this is why it is used for propaganda. Scare your subjects into obedience, slash civil liberties, more police on the streets and all of that. Now of course once the fear has gone the propaganda no longer works either. What a disaster eh?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 15, 2022 23:46:35 GMT
I see I'm talking to myself again.
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Post by piglet on Nov 16, 2022 16:12:17 GMT
Are you saying we should ignore terrorist attacks on the premise that, statistically, the very vast majority is safe? And that any govenment reacting to an atrocity is just depriving the public of civil liberties unfairly, on the basis that statitically they are safe? So we can go about our business.
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 17, 2022 10:35:02 GMT
I see I'm talking to myself again. That might be because it doesn’t have to occur every ten minutes to be utterly terrifying. We are approaching the season where the bearded ones start looking for soft targets. Traders hoping for profits from Christmas Markets and Christmas fairs are already fearing the worst on the grounds Jeremy is going to be a Christmas Grinch par excellence. To suggest the chance some nutter will not seize the occasion to give the black flag wavers something to rejoice about as they have done pre-COVID because such things rarely happen is a depth I thought even you would not stoop to. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 17, 2022 11:37:26 GMT
Are you saying we should ignore terrorist attacks on the premise that, statistically, the very vast majority is safe? And that any govenment reacting to an atrocity is just depriving the public of civil liberties unfairly, on the basis that statitically they are safe? So we can go about our business. Yes we should. The only reason they do them is for political exposure. A terrorist attack has never affected my life except for constantly having to switch the dribble off as it interrupts something you might be interested in, like ads mixed in with watchable content. It is pure brainwashing and you will see the reports on it instruct you how you should feel. This is NLP. If I as a reporter keep on talking about how I feel the mind of the listener will switch their head into feeling the same feelings. Thee feelings are the brainwashing payload. Do not fall for it. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 17, 2022 11:41:42 GMT
I see I'm talking to myself again. That might be because it doesn’t have to occur every ten minutes to be utterly terrifying. We are approaching the season where the bearded ones start looking for soft targets. Traders hoping for profits from Christmas Markets and Christmas fairs are already fearing the worst on the grounds Jeremy is going to be a Christmas Grinch par excellence. To suggest the chance some nutter will not seize the occasion to give the black flag wavers something to rejoice about as they have done pre-COVID because such things rarely happen is a depth I thought even you would not stoop to. It's as if the bearded ones share a professional relationship with the BBC. We'll blow it up and then you can report it so we are both quids in. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 17, 2022 12:09:18 GMT
Are you suggesting that the media should be hiding terrorist atrocities from us?
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 17, 2022 12:11:03 GMT
Are you saying we should ignore terrorist attacks on the premise that, statistically, the very vast majority is safe? And that any govenment reacting to an atrocity is just depriving the public of civil liberties unfairly, on the basis that statitically they are safe? So we can go about our business. Yes we should. The only reason they do them is for political exposure. A terrorist attack has never affected my life except for constantly having to switch the dribble off as it interrupts something you might be interested in, like ads mixed in with watchable content. It is pure brainwashing and you will see the reports on it instruct you how you should feel. This is NLP. If I as a reporter keep on talking about how I feel the mind of the listener will switch their head into feeling the same feelings. Thee feelings are the brainwashing payload. Do not fall for it. How I wish I lived in your happy land. In mine places I walk have been bombed and Martin McGuinness personally vapourised a mate of mine IF what I was told is to be believed and frankly I choose to believe it. I’ve had my car furebombed by the animal rights movement who didnt like how I chose to find a way to fight cancer (well they were the people funding the work) but how strange none of THOSE bastards reject the medical solutions when granny or their kid has something badly wrong that only medicine developed with animal experiments could fix. I’d have a LOT more respect if they demanded their relatives die before they benefit from the methods they despise And don’t get me started on what I had to check every morning when I worked on defence shit. I’ve had numerous business meetings and travel to them disrupted by terrorist incidents and I’ve had the joy of making money sending out the emergency emails telling Londoners not to use London Bridge Station because there was a bloodbath there last night. I don’t care how few incidents there are One is more than we should tolerate and the punishment for it should be quite Islamic. |
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Post by piglet on Nov 17, 2022 13:25:16 GMT
What about the people murdered by terrorists? If there is no proportional response as has been seen, wont attacks escalate, with the attacks killing more and more people.? While the government twiddles its thumbs. To you these things are just an inconvienience. You will change your mind if you survive an attack, but are minus a leg or two.
Your smug superiority is upsetting. 99 per cent of people will disagree with you lots of. The other one per cent are in Rampton.
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Post by Toreador on Nov 17, 2022 14:30:42 GMT
What about the people murdered by terrorists? If there is no proportional response as has been seen, wont attacks escalate, with the attacks killing more and more people.? While the government twiddles its thumbs. To you these things are just an inconvienience. You will change your mind if you survive an attack, but are minus a leg or two. Your smug superiority is upsetting. 99 per cent of people will disagree with you lots of. The other one per cent are in Rampton.I accelerated as I drove past there, yesterday, just in case.  |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 17, 2022 16:45:34 GMT
What about the people murdered by terrorists? If there is no proportional response as has been seen, wont attacks escalate, with the attacks killing more and more people.? While the government twiddles its thumbs. To you these things are just an inconvienience. You will change your mind if you survive an attack, but are minus a leg or two. Your smug superiority is upsetting. 99 per cent of people will disagree with you lots of. The other one per cent are in Rampton.I accelerated as I drove past there, yesterday, just in case. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 18, 2022 10:56:21 GMT
Are you suggesting that the media should be hiding terrorist atrocities from us? Yes. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 18, 2022 11:03:00 GMT
Yes we should. The only reason they do them is for political exposure. A terrorist attack has never affected my life except for constantly having to switch the dribble off as it interrupts something you might be interested in, like ads mixed in with watchable content. It is pure brainwashing and you will see the reports on it instruct you how you should feel. This is NLP. If I as a reporter keep on talking about how I feel the mind of the listener will switch their head into feeling the same feelings. Thee feelings are the brainwashing payload. Do not fall for it. How I wish I lived in your happy land. In mine places I walk have been bombed and Martin McGuinness personally vapourised a mate of mine IF what I was told is to be believed and frankly I choose to believe it. I’ve had my car furebombed by the animal rights movement who didnt like how I chose to find a way to fight cancer (well they were the people funding the work) but how strange none of THOSE bastards reject the medical solutions when granny or their kid has something badly wrong that only medicine developed with animal experiments could fix. I’d have a LOT more respect if they demanded their relatives die before they benefit from the methods they despise And don’t get me started on what I had to check every morning when I worked on defence shit. I’ve had numerous business meetings and travel to them disrupted by terrorist incidents and I’ve had the joy of making money sending out the emergency emails telling Londoners not to use London Bridge Station because there was a bloodbath there last night. I don’t care how few incidents there are One is more than we should tolerate and the punishment for it should be quite Islamic. My area is 98% white and you rarely see any trouble. The way I would do it if I were the BBC is only report those who were caught and put in prison for a long time. This way it would look like you are bound to be caught, and to make sure that happens one should use electronic security, e.g. cameras that can detect when someone leaves a bag on a bench and then walks away from it. |
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Post by piglet on Nov 18, 2022 13:03:56 GMT
I have to admire your refusal to ackowledge reality and commonsense. I am not going to waste my time pointing out the flaws in your argument, as the prospect of it registering is nil, like the other posts on here.
The new logic in your argument is that terrorist atrocities are down too ethnic minorities in this country which i presume you mean the coloured type. Is that true? And if it is, to what degree is it down to colour, religion, politics, or something else?
Children play as blighty burns is on your notes, some expansion on that would be nice.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 18, 2022 13:20:44 GMT
I have to admire your refusal to ackowledge reality and commonsense. I am not going to waste my time pointing out the flaws in your argument, as the prospect of it registering is nil, like the other posts on here. The new logic in your argument is that terrorist atrocities are down too ethnic minorities in this country which i presume you mean the coloured type. Is that true? And if it is, to what degree is it down to colour, religion, politics, or something else? Children play as blighty burns is on your notes, some expansion on that would be nice. Yes it does seems to be the areas where mostly English live that are the the safe communities. I've lived here for some 20 years and seen how crime free it is. It's totally safe for young children to go out on their own.
The signature is to do with adults playing. That could be fooling around and being non-serious, telling jokes, or it could be playing games like football or playing a part in a play. None of which does much for our everyday needs. You know - leave the responsibility to someone else and if it is your responsibility then pass the buck.Also it refers to the House of Commons where we see much child-like behaviour. They are always claiming someone abused them. Pathetic people.
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