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Post by Totheleft on Jan 30, 2024 1:29:08 GMT
Unionists will fight against Irish Sea border ‘every single day’, warns Jamie Bryson Leading loyalist activist says Sir Jeffrey Donaldson would be toppled if DUP leader ended Stormont boycott Financial Times www.ft.comNew Brexit border rules will hit UK supply chains, food industry warns — New Brexit border rules will hit UK supply chains, food industry warns. British consumers risk higher prices after January 31 roll-out Another blow for Rishi Sunak as study shows 2.3m British expats getting vote for first time at election 'plan to punish the Tories for Brexit' By Greg Heffer, Political Correspondent For Mailonline Yorkshire Bylines Home News Brexit The road to contrition: how Brexit is paving our way back into the EU Brexit hasn't failed, it’s convincing voters we do need to be a member of the EU in the only way that was ever going to succeed The F-word is becoming increasingly associated with Brexit. No less an authority than Nigel Farage himself has declared Brexit to have failed. Recently Professor Chris Grey, perhaps Britain’s leading academic authority on the topic, described Brexit’s “total failure”. Former Attorney General Dominic Grieve was just the latest in the pages of The Independent: Rishi Sunak is in denial – proof that Brexit has failed mounts by the day. End-of-year polls by Opinium and Focaldata to mark the third anniversary of Britain’s exit from the bloc show an overwhelming majority of voters agree. And in respect of trade, inflation, the NHS, economic growth, immigration, tax, and the many other misleading claims peddled by both the leave campaigns of 2016, it has undoubtedly been a failure. Pro-EU sentiment is now higher both in the UK and continental Europe than it has been for years and crucially much higher than it would have been without Brexit. Having experienced life outside the EU a clear majority in the UK now want a closer relationship and believe, in hindsight, that Brexit was a mistake. Last month a YouGov poll showed 57% of voters would support rejoining the single market even if this meant restoring free movement of people, with just 22% opposed Not very good news for you is it Chumpd |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 30, 2024 7:47:15 GMT
Having experienced life outside the EU a clear majority in the UK now want a closer relationship and believe, in hindsight, that Brexit was a mistake. Last month a YouGov poll showed 57% of voters would support rejoining the single market even if this meant restoring free movement of people, with just 22% opposed Not very good news for you is it Chumpd What level of support is there if the requirement to join the Euro is included in the question? |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 30, 2024 7:56:31 GMT
 Another happy day of independence. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 30, 2024 9:17:50 GMT
Having experienced life outside the EU a clear majority in the UK now want a closer relationship and believe, in hindsight, that Brexit was a mistake. Last month a YouGov poll showed 57% of voters would support rejoining the single market even if this meant restoring free movement of people, with just 22% opposed Not very good news for you is it Chumpd What level of support is there if the requirement to join the Euro is included in the question? What is wrong with the Euro? Much less possibility of losing international value than the pound sterling. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 30, 2024 9:54:34 GMT
Having experienced life outside the EU a clear majority in the UK now want a closer relationship and believe, in hindsight, that Brexit was a mistake. Last month a YouGov poll showed 57% of voters would support rejoining the single market even if this meant restoring free movement of people, with just 22% opposed Not very good news for you is it Chumpd What level of support is there if the requirement to join the Euro is included in the question? That's the thing. There'd be no rebate. No vetoes. No opt outs. We'd have to sign up to Schengen. We'd have to join the ERM (again) and commit to joining the Euro. We'd lose our new FTAs. We'd have to rejoin the CAP (a policy so bad now that even French farmers are up in arms about it). We'd have to rejoin the CFP and give our fishing rights away, again. We'd lose our independence and our sovereignty to make our own policies. And at the moment a treaty change process is taking place and they're not admitting new members until the treaties have changed. For the foreseeable future, there's no going back. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 30, 2024 12:57:52 GMT
What level of support is there if the requirement to join the Euro is included in the question? What is wrong with the Euro? Much less possibility of losing international value than the pound sterling. So why is there a majority against rejoining if it means taking on the Euro? |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 30, 2024 13:05:14 GMT
16th September 1992, the UK crashed out of the ERM because the pound was not compatible with it.
There are huge problems with currency unions when there isn't fiscal union in place to make things work.
Having a sovereign currency gives flexibility, an ability to weather economic storms, to devalue if necessary, and to give away sovereignty is sheer folly.
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 10, 2024 10:26:14 GMT
What is wrong with the Euro? Much less possibility of losing international value than the pound sterling. So why is there a majority against rejoining if it means taking on the Euro? Is there? There was supposedly negative reaction to vchanging pints and inches but mostly among old people. The ones who count arent "the people:. The ones who count are banks, international investors and international companies who, if they saw a strong pound, would happily convert. |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 10, 2024 10:36:01 GMT
16th September 1992, the UK crashed out of the ERM because the pound was not compatible with it. There are huge problems with currency unions when there isn't fiscal union in place to make things work. Having a sovereign currency gives flexibility, an ability to weather economic storms, to devalue if necessary, and to give away sovereignty is sheer folly. The UK crashed out of the ERM because its economy was so weak. In September 1992, the UK was forced to withdraw from the exchange rate mechanism of the European Monetary System, as it was unable to keep the value of the pound above the limit specified by the agreement.Nov 8, 2022 www.economicsobservatory.com › ... Devaluation on borrowed money is financial suicide and much of the UK's GDP today depends on borrowed money subject to interest rates dependant on global economies and inflationary pressures. |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 10, 2024 10:38:49 GMT
What level of support is there if the requirement to join the Euro is included in the question? That's the thing. There'd be no rebate. No vetoes. No opt outs. We'd have to sign up to Schengen. We'd have to join the ERM (again) and commit to joining the Euro. We'd lose our new FTAs. We'd have to rejoin the CAP (a policy so bad now that even French farmers are up in arms about it). We'd have to rejoin the CFP and give our fishing rights away, again. We'd lose our independence and our sovereignty to make our own policies. And at the moment a treaty change process is taking place and they're not admitting new members until the treaties have changed. For the foreseeable future, there's no going back. Vinny you have absolutely NO idea what the terms and conditions would be...IF the EU would be interested in your return. Which is not a foregone conclusion. |
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 10, 2024 10:51:41 GMT
Unionists will fight against Irish Sea border ‘every single day’, warns Jamie Bryson Leading loyalist activist says Sir Jeffrey Donaldson would be toppled if DUP leader ended Stormont boycott Financial Times www.ft.comNew Brexit border rules will hit UK supply chains, food industry warns — New Brexit border rules will hit UK supply chains, food industry warns. British consumers risk higher prices after January 31 roll-out Another blow for Rishi Sunak as study shows 2.3m British expats getting vote for first time at election 'plan to punish the Tories for Brexit' By Greg Heffer, Political Correspondent For Mailonline Yorkshire Bylines Home News Brexit The road to contrition: how Brexit is paving our way back into the EU Brexit hasn't failed, it’s convincing voters we do need to be a member of the EU in the only way that was ever going to succeed The F-word is becoming increasingly associated with Brexit. No less an authority than Nigel Farage himself has declared Brexit to have failed. Recently Professor Chris Grey, perhaps Britain’s leading academic authority on the topic, described Brexit’s “total failure”. Former Attorney General Dominic Grieve was just the latest in the pages of The Independent: Rishi Sunak is in denial – proof that Brexit has failed mounts by the day. End-of-year polls by Opinium and Focaldata to mark the third anniversary of Britain’s exit from the bloc show an overwhelming majority of voters agree. And in respect of trade, inflation, the NHS, economic growth, immigration, tax, and the many other misleading claims peddled by both the leave campaigns of 2016, it has undoubtedly been a failure. Pro-EU sentiment is now higher both in the UK and continental Europe than it has been for years and crucially much higher than it would have been without Brexit. Having experienced life outside the EU a clear majority in the UK now want a closer relationship and believe, in hindsight, that Brexit was a mistake. Last month a YouGov poll showed 57% of voters would support rejoining the single market even if this meant restoring free movement of people, with just 22% opposed Not very good news for you is it Chumpd Rising political extremism, social conflicts, corruption scandals with MEP's, divisions between member states, failures in foreign policy, economic stagnation = the EU is a basket case. Brexit was a bloody good idea, and still is! Many people have a stake in Brexit failing, not least remainers who couldn't admit they were wrong. |
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