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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 28, 2024 12:27:22 GMT
They can take him for a tattoo if they want, he has no say in what a adult does to him, just like if they put him in a dress because they wanted him to be a girl, then he has to go along with it, a 4 year old can hardly read or write at that age, never mind making decisions on his gender. How do you know the boy didn't want to wear a dress? If a girl wants to wear trousers does that mean she is changing her gender? Not going round in circles, girls wear dresses, if parents want to fuck with their kids heads that's up to them, unless the law steps in.
If you think a boy named Andrew who sits in a class of 4 year olds, turns up the next day in a dress and it doesn't mess with his head and the rest of the kids in the class, then no point us carrying on this conversation, let's just hope common sense prevails in the end.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 28, 2024 12:31:40 GMT
How do you know the boy didn't want to wear a dress? If a girl wants to wear trousers does that mean she is changing her gender? Not going round in circles, girls wear dresses, if parents want to fuck with their kids heads that's up to them, unless the law steps in.
If you think a boy named Andrew who sits in a class of 4 year olds, turns up the next day in a dress and it doesn't mess with his head and the rest of the kids in the class, then no point us carrying on this conversation, let's just hope common sense prevails in the end.
So a girl who doesn't wear a dress is a boy? I'm just trying to pin down what you think constitutes changing gender since you accused the boy's parents of changing his gender. If I start wearing a dress will you address me as she/her? |
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Post by Tinculin on Jan 28, 2024 12:32:07 GMT
I've seen little boys put on their mother's high-heeled shoes, and walk around in them like oversized buckets, I've seen little boys put on nail varnish, but that does not mean they want to change gender. They're doing something all kids do at that age.
It's called playing and learning.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 28, 2024 12:32:38 GMT
You still haven't answered my question put to show how much you know about the development of a four year old though. Why is that ?
I'm no more an expert than you are. That's why. Well allow me to educate you As explained to me by Robert Winston
As an infant grows in its early years it begins to determine a sense of space and even the passage of time. Various child develoment experts assembled a developmental shart that suggests ages by which a child can achieve a certain task, standing, walking, placing blocks in top of others, working out shapes, and all that stuff.
Those who have brought up children know there comes a day when they (the parent i mean, not the child) wake in the morning, stagger into the bathroom and are greeted by the sight of a towel on the floor or maybe over the side of the bath, and the toilet paper pulled a good two feet lower than the holder. This signifies the monent when their newest addition to the family has woken in the godforsaken hours of the night with the urge to take a dump, walked to the bathroom by themselves, got on the bog unaided, done what has to be done, used the bog roll to wipe their arse, washed and dried their hands and gone back to bed
Of course prior to this happy circumstance which is the point at which I finally acknowledge my child to be homo sapiens and not some throwback ape, there are any number of less pleasant sights awaiting, all of which require the sense of humour that only a parent is endowed with.
But to come to my question, and its actual answer.
The developing child then passes through a number of mental and physical advancements. However, prior to about the age of eleven, a number of brain pathways that rvide negative feedback and the understanding of the negative inpact of their actions, but more often their words, are not properly in place. Tony Buzan the man probably known more than many for his courses on aiding memory and mental development and mind maps explains this lack of negative reinforcement is the reason children below a certain age unthinkingly blurt out all manner of social gaffes..........
Somewhere between the age of three and four, although to be fair in extreme cases it can be later or earlier, a child will gain a sense of spatial awareness and the passage of time, but will crucially realise their own limitations in ths regard apply to others. Prior to this they presume their parents to he omniscient, omnipresent and so on. There will come a point where they realise their parent, away in the kitchen or other room, cannot possibly SEE what they are doing and will therefore reason that said parent cannot possibly know they pulled whatever item of crockery onto the floor, or spilled some container, and therefore, when questioned, will deny their involvement
This is critical on three fronts, first it speaks to the reasoning that they have done something they should not, and may not enjoy what's coming. Second and much more important, they have started to realise their accuser does not have the god powers to know they did it, and third and most important of all, they reason from these two that it is possible a denial may be believed.
Winston explains how this shows an interaction of several areas of the brain and that the child has taken a crucial step in seeing te spatial relationships of themselves and others to real world objects and this is an absolutely critical thinking process. Of course, he goes on to say, at this point the child has not yet advanced to the point of reasoning that their parent will calculate that they must have done it, being the only way the issue could have arisen, and this will remain the case until they make the next logical step in the process, where they blame their younger sibling, or the family cat or dog.................
There you are then, an object lesson on the development of cerebral reasoning in the immature homo sapiens. Open University Foundation Course stuff although as i say I heard Winston deliver this personally, a good few years ago..........
STILL want to say I know nothing about the develoment of the child ? Even though I've brought up two ??
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Post by jonksy on Jan 28, 2024 12:32:47 GMT
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 28, 2024 12:35:35 GMT
I'm no more an expert than you are. That's why. Well allow me to educate you As explained to me by Robert Winston
As an infant grows in its early years it begins to determine a sense of space and even the passage of time. Various child develoment experts assembled a developmental shart that suggests ages by which a child can achieve a certain task, standing, walking, placing blocks in top of others, working out shapes, and all that stuff.
Those who have brought up children know there comes a day when they (the parent i mean, not the child) wake in the morning, stagger into the bathroom and are greeted by the sight of a towel on the floor or maybe over the side of the bath, and the toilet paper pulled a good two feet lower than the holder. This signifies the monent when their newest addition to the family has woken in the godforsaken hours of the night with the urge to take a dump, walked to the bathroom by themselves, got on the bog unaided, done what has to be done, used the bog roll to wipe their arse, washed and dried their hands and gone back to bed
Of course prior to this happy circumstance which is the point at which I finally acknowledge my child to be homo sapiens and not some throwback ape, there are any number of less pleasant sights awaiting, all of which require the sense of humour that only a parent is endowed with.
But to come to my question, and its actual answer.
The developing child then passes through a number of mental and physical advancements. However, prior to about the age of eleven, a number of brain pathways that rvide negative feedback and the understanding of the negative inpact of their actions, but more often their words, are not properly in place. Tony Buzan the man probably known more than many for his courses on aiding memory and mental development and mind maps explains this lack of negative reinforcement is the reason children below a certain age unthinkingly blurt out all manner of social gaffes..........
Somewhere between the age of three and four, although to be fair in extreme cases it can be later or earlier, a child will gain a sense of spatial awareness and the passage of time, but will crucially realise their own limitations in ths regard apply to others. Prior to this they presume their parents to he omniscient, omnipresent and so on. There will come a point where they realise their parent, away in the kitchen or other room, cannot possibly SEE what they are doing and will therefore reason that said parent cannot possibly know they pulled whatever item of crockery onto the floor, or spilled some container, and therefore, when questioned, will deny their involvement
This is critical on three fronts, first it speaks to the reasoning that they have done something they should not, and may not enjoy what's coming. Second and much more important, they have started to realise their accuser does not have the god powers to know they did it, and third and most important of all, they reason from these two that it is possible a denial may be believed.
Winston explains how this shows an interaction of several areas of the brain and that the child has taken a crucial step in seeing te spatial relationships of themselves and others to real world objects and this is an absolutely critical thinking process. Of course, he goes on to say, at this point the child has not yet advanced to the point of reasoning that their parent will calculate that they must have done it, being the only way the issue could have arisen, and this will remain the case until they make the next logical step in the process, where they blame their younger sibling, or the family cat or dog.................
There you are then, an object lesson on the development of cerebral reasoning in the immature homo sapiens. Open University Foundation Course stuff although as i say I heard Winston deliver this personally, a good few years ago..........
STILL want to say I know nothing about the develoment of the child ? Even though I've brought up two ??
Okay, I concede the point. You've brought up two children, so you are clearly a very well qualified child psychologist. Glad we got that cleared up. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 28, 2024 12:36:55 GMT
When you reach the age of consent for sex, tattoos and voting, then the law says you are legally old enough to make your own decisions, if you want to wear a dress, change your gender that's called freedom of choice, but until you reach the age of consent you have to rely on the 'sound judgment' of your parents/guardians and if they fuck up you're left to pick up the pieces of their bad decisions. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 28, 2024 12:41:12 GMT
When you reach the age of consent for sex, tattoos and voting, then the law says you are legally old enough to make your own decisions, if you want to wear a dress, change your gender that's called freedom of choice, but until you reach the age of consent you have to rely on the 'sound judgment' of your parents/guardians and if they fuck up you're left to pick up the pieces of their bad decisions. Exactly mate we hear time and time again that those who have had gender changing treatment now regret their choice? Let kids be kids FFS they are not even allowed to play any longer becouse some woke mother fucker will complain or come to an irrational idea. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 28, 2024 12:45:08 GMT
When you reach the age of consent for sex, tattoos and voting, then the law says you are legally old enough to make your own decisions, if you want to wear a dress, change your gender that's called freedom of choice, but until you reach the age of consent you have to rely on the 'sound judgment' of your parents/guardians and if they fuck up you're left to pick up the pieces of their bad decisions. Exactly mate we hear time and time again that those who have had gender changing treatment now regret their choice? Let kids be kids FFS they are not even allowed to play any longer becouse some woke mother fucker will complain or come to an irrational idea. So you are saying 'let this boy play at being a girl if he wants to'? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 12:46:48 GMT
So, the COE is now run by Marxist degenerates.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 28, 2024 12:47:05 GMT
When you reach the age of consent for sex, tattoos and voting, then the law says you are legally old enough to make your own decisions, if you want to wear a dress, change your gender that's called freedom of choice, but until you reach the age of consent you have to rely on the 'sound judgment' of your parents/guardians and if they fuck up you're left to pick up the pieces of their bad decisions. Exactly mate we hear time and time again that those who have had gender changing treatment now regret their choice? Let kids be kids FFS they are not even allowed to play any longer becouse some woke mother fucker will complain or come to an irrational idea. It's going to backfire in years to come, these kids will be suing their parents the establishment for all sorts of emotional physical trauma, and I hope they are successful, it's a accident waiting to happen. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 28, 2024 12:50:21 GMT
Exactly mate we hear time and time again that those who have had gender changing treatment now regret their choice? Let kids be kids FFS they are not even allowed to play any longer becouse some woke mother fucker will complain or come to an irrational idea. So you are saying 'let this boy play at being a girl if he wants to'? It was called dressing up when I was a child monte. No connotations by the woke left in those days. If A a child dresses up as a cowboy, soldier or a policeman do they automatically become what they are dressed as? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 28, 2024 12:51:43 GMT
The image that briefly fills the screen before i get blanked by a popup demanding i register to continue reading shows two people who even to my ageing vision seem rather older than 16, which means the person who had gender reassignment surgery was a bloody sight older than four. The article does not give their current age (at least the bits of it i am allowed to read while the popup blocks the rest) fails to put it, but given I can still read the article's claim they ha this surgery twelve years ago, it seemed to me both of the individuals depicted were well above the age of majority when they had this medical mutilation of the genitals they were born with carried out
And I am content with that. I might even be open to persuasion that the person in question was under some sort of mental stress and distress that meant such mutilation was the only solution medical science could offer and on that basis i am even content that such persons should be offered such using my taxes to fund it, as I have no desire to leave a medically judged person of otherwise sound mind to be in that state of distress
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As I pointed out to an individual with whom i worked for over a year on the non geographic telephone number routing system that ensures your distress call made in your hour of need on your mobile to summon an AA Man to aid you at the location your vehicle has broken down is routed to the least busy AA Call Centre UK Wide and their onward call for a mechanic or patrol operative to assist you is similarly rerouted to the nearest availabe person able to get to you inside their SLA, I didnlt give a flying one what they looked like or how they dressed, I cared only about how well they were able to configure and build an oracle database, but at the same time they were without doubt the ugliest "woman" i had encountered in what was then over thirty years of having an interest in those of the opposite sex.....
And I also think that the bloke who was at one time dating my elder daughter in her late teens who later chose to have his nuts cut off showed he still had more balls than i would have considered possoble when he emailed her for fashion advice ..............................
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 28, 2024 12:53:04 GMT
So you are saying 'let this boy play at being a girl if he wants to'? It was called dressing up when I was a child monte. No connotations by the woke left in those days. If A a child dresses up as a cowboy, soldier or a policeman do they automatically become what they are dressed as? So the parents haven't changed his gender as FS states? It's just a bit of dressing up that has been exaggerated to push an anti-trans agenda? Glad we sorted that out. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 28, 2024 12:55:40 GMT
I remember being obsessed with Action man when I was a kid, it didn't mean my parents were going to send me to school dressed in Combat uniform with a M16 FFS.
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