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Post by Handyman on Jan 22, 2024 21:20:45 GMT
First blood has been drawn by peers over Rishi Sunak’s controversial Rwanda deportation plan.
Inflicting a defeat against the Government, the House of Lords backed by 214 votes to 171, majority 43, an unprecedented move seeking to delay a treaty with the east African nation that paves the way for the divisive asylum scheme.
The unelected chamber supported a call by the Lords International Agreements Committee (IAC) that Parliament should not ratify the pact until ministers can show Rwanda is safe.
The Government agreed the legally-binding treaty with Kigali in December, saying it addressed concerns raised by the Supreme Court about the possibility of asylum seekers deported to Rwanda then being transferred to a country where they could be at risk.
But the cross-party committee said promised safeguards in the agreement are “incomplete” and must be implemented before it can be endorsed.
Unlike the Commons which has the power to delay ratification of a treaty, the Lords can only advise.
However, ignoring the demand by peers could later be used in a legal challenge against the Government.
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Post by vlk on Jan 22, 2024 21:42:22 GMT
If the House of Lords didn't exist would anybody today propose that it should be created?
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 22, 2024 22:47:34 GMT
First blood has been drawn by peers over Rishi Sunak’s controversial Rwanda deportation plan. Inflicting a defeat against the Government, the House of Lords backed by 214 votes to 171, majority 43, an unprecedented move seeking to delay a treaty with the east African nation that paves the way for the divisive asylum scheme. The unelected chamber supported a call by the Lords International Agreements Committee (IAC) that Parliament should not ratify the pact until ministers can show Rwanda is safe. The Government agreed the legally-binding treaty with Kigali in December, saying it addressed concerns raised by the Supreme Court about the possibility of asylum seekers deported to Rwanda then being transferred to a country where they could be at risk. But the cross-party committee said promised safeguards in the agreement are “incomplete” and must be implemented before it can be endorsed. Unlike the Commons which has the power to delay ratification of a treaty, the Lords can only advise. However, ignoring the demand by peers could later be used in a legal challenge against the Government. Just listening to something about this, I notice Lord... cant remember his name, said the Lords are not attempting to overturn this (Because they cant) they just want it debated. In Lords speak that means they intend to slow the bills progress as much as they possibly can.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 22, 2024 22:50:22 GMT
If the House of Lords didn't exist would anybody today propose that it should be created? LOL, excellent point. But fortunately tradition dies hard, and this country has a long history of tradition.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Jan 23, 2024 0:41:00 GMT
If they delay it long enough maybe Rwanda and The Congo will go to war with each other? (As the President of the Congo has been threatening to do).
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 23, 2024 0:55:43 GMT
If they delay it long enough maybe Rwanda and The Congo will go to war with each other? (As the President of the Congo has been threatening to do). Indeed Senior, and the UN continue to send refugees to Rwanda while condemning the UK for 'attempting' to do the same.
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