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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 14, 2024 22:39:55 GMT
From ex Conservative MP and minister, Michael Portillo. Quote: For months, Houthi rebels have defied the West, using missiles, drones and boarding parties to terrorise freighters entering the Red Sea sailing towards the Suez Canal. This week the anticipated response arrived as a coalition of ten countries, led by the United States and Britain, mounted retaliatory air strikes. Meanwhile, I am sure that in my memory, Britain has never functioned worse. The NHS is in collapse and even to get a doctor’s appointment online is unachievable for many. The railways function only periodically. The rottenness of the British state has been laid bare by the Post Office scandal. Although ministers and MPs have known of the scandal for years it has taken a television drama for the government to admit that it can do something to bring about restitution. How can we have faith in British justice that convicted so many innocent people? Beyond that, our police forces have lost public confidence. Immigration is not under control, the government is unable to build new houses, schools or railways. Civil servants don’t go to the office and are unaccountable and MPs are involved in scandals. Meanwhile the only reforms that are undertaken seem to move us closer to the sinister absurdities of wokery. These are conditions that ought perhaps to produce a revolution. Has the public just decided that nothing will ever get better? www.gbnews.com/opinion/michael-portillo-britain-reform-wokery-latestAnd who could disagree?
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Jan 15, 2024 1:39:38 GMT
Portillo's perception of how the country should be run:
"The rich should not have to pay taxes to support the poor. They should be free to contribute to charities that would provide the support."
He said words to this effect when he was a Government Minister in the 90s. The Conservative government in New Zealand actually tried to implement such a system by slashing State Benefits.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 15, 2024 20:05:14 GMT
Portillo's perception of how the country should be run: "The rich should not have to pay taxes to support the poor. They should be free to contribute to charities that would provide the support." He said words to this effect when he was a Government Minister in the 90s. The Conservative government in New Zealand actually tried to implement such a system by slashing State Benefits. Senior, Portillo was certainly a Conservative MP and Minister, but you will have to show me something however tenuous, to show he said: the rich should pay no taxes to support the poor or otherwise.
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Post by piglet on Jan 16, 2024 11:22:20 GMT
I agree completely with Portillo, yet having said such, it will make zero impact on anything, britain is sick.
As far as war is concerned, the leaders of Russia, China, North Korea Iran etc, have had lives of serious violence, despotism, greed, murder, theft, lies, assasination, there own escaped, and planned for others, and debauchery of all kinds, and they will think nothing of it.
In the other corner is Rishi Sunak, a boy scout, always wanting to do the right thing, grew up doing sums in a post office, naive, polite, an office boy. Is he street wise,?, youve got to be joking, is he ruthless.....haaaaaa. Does he stab people in the back rather than the front?, yes. As a leader he is totally wrong.
Britain needs a Donald Trump type, a bastard, no conscience, no conscience in doing the right thing, and as Eisenhower did, speak gently but act big. Screw speaking gently, id tell putin to f off . Whoever would know where they stand.
What im saying is that despots have the mind set of war, destruction, invasion, murder. We have spoilt westerners spoilt by easy living.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 16, 2024 11:32:08 GMT
I agree completely with Portillo, yet having said such, it will make zero impact on anything, britain is sick. As far as war is concerned, the leaders of Russia, China, North Korea Iran etc, have had lives of serious violence, despotism, greed, murder, theft, lies, assasination, there own escaped, and planned for others, and debauchery of all kinds, and they will think nothing of it.In the other corner is Rishi Sunak, a boy scout, always wanting to do the right thing, grew up doing sums in a post office, naive, polite, an office boy. Is he street wise,?, youve got to be joking, is he ruthless.....haaaaaa. Does he stab people in the back rather than the front?, yes. As a leader he is totally wrong. Britain needs a Donald Trump type, a bastard, no conscience, no conscience in doing the right thing, and as Eisenhower did, speak gently but act big. Screw speaking gently, id tell putin to f off . Whoever would know where they stand. What im saying is that despots have the mind set of war, destruction, invasion, murder. We have spoilt westerners spoilt by easy living. Biden says US does not support Taiwan’s independence following election
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Post by sheepy on Jan 16, 2024 11:47:15 GMT
Speak gently but a carry a big stick, sounds like something a slave master would use.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Jan 16, 2024 18:49:04 GMT
Portillo's perception of how the country should be run: "The rich should not have to pay taxes to support the poor. They should be free to contribute to charities that would provide the support." He said words to this effect when he was a Government Minister in the 90s. The Conservative government in New Zealand actually tried to implement such a system by slashing State Benefits. Senior, Portillo was certainly a Conservative MP and Minister, but you will have to show me something however tenuous, to show he said: the rich should pay no taxes to support the poor or otherwise. He also said that after people have signed on at a Jobcentre, as they leave some of them should be approached in the street by an "inspector" and taken for an interview. If they cannot prove they have been actively seeking work their benefit would be stopped.
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 16, 2024 19:17:17 GMT
Senior, Portillo was certainly a Conservative MP and Minister, but you will have to show me something however tenuous, to show he said: the rich should pay no taxes to support the poor or otherwise. He also said that after people have signed on at a Jobcentre, as they leave some of them should be approached in the street by an "inspector" and taken for an interview. If they cannot prove they have been actively seeking work their benefit would be stopped. Good idea , inspectors should also be knocking on their doors during working hours and asking questions if they fail to answer
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 16, 2024 22:26:21 GMT
Senior, Portillo was certainly a Conservative MP and Minister, but you will have to show me something however tenuous, to show he said: the rich should pay no taxes to support the poor or otherwise. He also said that after people have signed on at a Jobcentre, as they leave some of them should be approached in the street by an "inspector" and taken for an interview. If they cannot prove they have been actively seeking work their benefit would be stopped. what problem with that do you have? - should people not be required to find work?
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Post by jonksy on Jan 16, 2024 22:56:08 GMT
He also said that after people have signed on at a Jobcentre, as they leave some of them should be approached in the street by an "inspector" and taken for an interview. If they cannot prove they have been actively seeking work their benefit would be stopped. what problem with that do you have? - should people not be required to find work? We have far to many able bodied people in the UK swinging the lead.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 19, 2024 19:49:53 GMT
Portillo's perception of how the country should be run: "The rich should not have to pay taxes to support the poor. They should be free to contribute to charities that would provide the support." He said words to this effect when he was a Government Minister in the 90s. The Conservative government in New Zealand actually tried to implement such a system by slashing State Benefits. Senior, Portillo was certainly a Conservative MP and Minister, but you will have to show me something however tenuous, to show he said: the rich should pay no taxes to support the poor or otherwise. I think his words once out of office were nothing of the sort www.michaelportillo.co.uk/speeches/speeches_pub/speech13p.htm
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 19, 2024 19:54:09 GMT
Senior, Portillo was certainly a Conservative MP and Minister, but you will have to show me something however tenuous, to show he said: the rich should pay no taxes to support the poor or otherwise. He also said that after people have signed on at a Jobcentre, as they leave some of them should be approached in the street by an "inspector" and taken for an interview. If they cannot prove they have been actively seeking work their benefit would be stopped. As a student, it was a requirement of signing on, even though in my case one did it purely to maintain one’s NI record, to provide a means by which i could be contacted should work THEY deemed suitable be available, and it was a condition you had to agree to when signing, that you would accept such work, or not get whatever unemployment benefit was available to those in your circumstance and actively seeking work
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Jan 19, 2024 23:26:46 GMT
I was a carer from 1984 to 1994. In July 1994, after my wife died, I signed on. I was told that the only jobs available locally (Cardigan, Wales) were in the slaughterhouse ... but they wouldn't insist I work there. Two weeks later when I came to sign on for the first time I was confronted by a young girl who officiously pointed at the notice boards and declared in a loud voice: "You've got to look at the boards before I can sign you on!" I replied: "No I don't. The new laws haven't been presented to Parliament yet". A supervisor came over and also said I had to look at the boards before I could be signed on. I repeated what I'd said to the girl and demanded to be signed on. The manager appeared and took me into a room ... where he agreed I was right. He told me that "Westminster" had told him to apply the rules detailed in the proposed new law. He said he would tell the staff not to pressure me again ... as I "was looking for work".
A short time later I moved to London ... where the same thing happened when I tried to sign on: "You've got to look at the boards!"
When I again informed them about the proposed new law having not yet become law a manager appeared and, smiling broadly, said: "He's right. It hasn't become law yet".
Prior to the Jobseekers' 1995 Law the Job Centers had no power to stop people's benefit if they were not seeking work, no power to insist they accept jobs offered to them by the Job Center.
After the law was passed, as I was signing on one day, the man interviewing me was handed a note by a smiling senior staff member. When he read it he looked "crestfallen". He had just been informed that he was still on a monthly contract (he had hoped to be put on a six monthly contract). Apparently he wasn't applying enough pressure and threats pf sanctioning on people he interviewed.
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