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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 10, 2022 11:06:35 GMT
It's known as being on remand in the UK on the strength of a member of the public's say so. No trial, just state thugs turn up at his door and take him away.
This is modern day Manchester. He married the woman, had two young children only about 2 years old or so who are not allowed to meet their father because the mother has said so.
No I did not read this in a paper - it is a person my brother knows from Manchester because he has a few friends up there. Is Manchester now being run by Idi Amin's henchmen? Talk about human rights on the News but the Brits are fucking hypocrites.
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Post by Tinculin on Oct 10, 2022 11:31:43 GMT
What crime has he been charged with and awaiting trial for?
Regardless of innocence or not, he will have been charged by the police for a crime he may or have not committed and will be awaiting trial.
To be on "remand" means that the police have charged you with a crime and you need to be detained until your trial. Usually, this is because the crime you've been charged with is a dangerous one and are deemed unsafe to remain in public.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 10, 2022 13:31:35 GMT
What crime has he been charged with and awaiting trial for? Regardless of innocence or not, he will have been charged by the police for a crime he may or have not committed and will be awaiting trial. To be on "remand" means that the police have charged you with a crime and you need to be detained until your trial. Usually, this is because the crime you've been charged with is a dangerous one and are deemed unsafe to remain in public. Indeed, what crime has he been charged with and suspected of committing? the Court obviously have a good and valid reason to remand him in custody to await his trial I would also add he can apply to the Crown Court for Bail whilst awaiting trial, but he may not get it if not suitable, |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 11, 2022 1:41:11 GMT
What crime has he been charged with and awaiting trial for? Regardless of innocence or not, he will have been charged by the police for a crime he may or have not committed and will be awaiting trial. To be on "remand" means that the police have charged you with a crime and you need to be detained until your trial. Usually, this is because the crime you've been charged with is a dangerous one and are deemed unsafe to remain in public. He simply contacted his wife. It was not a crime in the past, but I guess the woman has reported him for something or other like harassment. I had it happen to me just by ringing a doorbell the woman went mental and phoned the police. In my case I explained she was mental and the police accepted it, but this is Manchester. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 11, 2022 1:43:03 GMT
What crime has he been charged with and awaiting trial for? Regardless of innocence or not, he will have been charged by the police for a crime he may or have not committed and will be awaiting trial. To be on "remand" means that the police have charged you with a crime and you need to be detained until your trial. Usually, this is because the crime you've been charged with is a dangerous one and are deemed unsafe to remain in public. Indeed, what crime has he been charged with and suspected of committing? the Court obviously have a good and valid reason to remand him in custody to await his trial I would also add he can apply to the Crown Court for Bail whilst awaiting trial, but he may not get it if not suitable, I do not know. All I know is what he did, as I explained above. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 11, 2022 6:05:34 GMT
What crime has he been charged with and awaiting trial for? Regardless of innocence or not, he will have been charged by the police for a crime he may or have not committed and will be awaiting trial. To be on "remand" means that the police have charged you with a crime and you need to be detained until your trial. Usually, this is because the crime you've been charged with is a dangerous one and are deemed unsafe to remain in public. He simply contacted his wife. It was not a crime in the past, but I guess the woman has reported him for something or other like harassment. I had it happen to me just by ringing a doorbell the woman went mental and phoned the police. In my case I explained she was mental and the police accepted it, but this is Manchester. But back in the real world he probably contacted his (doubtless estranged) wife contrary to either bail conditions or a court order. And got himself nicked.
And of course, he probably wouldn't be in that position without a long history of domestic abuse behind him.
Of course, I could be wrong - but that seldom happens.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 11, 2022 7:09:44 GMT
I agree it does seem that way on the limited information Baron has stated or knows, in domestic arguments a Court will issue a Court Order usually to protect the mother and children but only if the Court thinks it warrants it, IMO they don't issue such orders lightly.
Yes, it appears he has been charged with a Criminal Offence and possibly broken his bail conditions or committed another offence whilst on bail if that is the case the Court will deny him bail, he will stay in prison until his case comes to trial in order to protect the mother and children
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 11, 2022 9:53:17 GMT
He simply contacted his wife. It was not a crime in the past, but I guess the woman has reported him for something or other like harassment. I had it happen to me just by ringing a doorbell the woman went mental and phoned the police. In my case I explained she was mental and the police accepted it, but this is Manchester. But back in the real world he probably contacted his (doubtless estranged) wife contrary to either bail conditions or a court order. And got himself nicked.
And of course, he probably wouldn't be in that position without a long history of domestic abuse behind him.
Of course, I could be wrong - but that seldom happens.
Most likely is is to do with some court order or other. They give them out to the bitches so easily. Never-the-less he is in prison for wanting to see his kids, and if the bitch married and had children then it was partly her choice. The chances are she's a slag and met some other bloke. We do not ever see a woman in prison for wanting to see her kids, just men. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 11, 2022 10:00:05 GMT
I agree it does seem that way on the limited information Baron has stated or knows, in domestic arguments a Court will issue a Court Order usually to protect the mother and children but only if the Court thinks it warrants it, IMO they don't issue such orders lightly. Yes, it appears he has been charged with a Criminal Offence and possibly broken his bail conditions or committed another offence whilst on bail if that is the case the Court will deny him bail, he will stay in prison until his case comes to trial in order to protect the mother and children He will have likely broken a condition or two before, but the likelihood is the litigating bitch is the reason. She probably has a habit of phoning the cops about him and the cops believing every word of it. Family(sic) courts are against men. I do not know anything else except my brother is a friend of his and he was looking to set up a business with him, so he can't be that dodgy as my brother is no fool when it comes to people. He's an electrician by trade and wants to move out of Manchester. We're not talking about some crazy nutter here. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 11, 2022 14:10:54 GMT
I agree it does seem that way on the limited information Baron has stated or knows, in domestic arguments a Court will issue a Court Order usually to protect the mother and children but only if the Court thinks it warrants it, IMO they don't issue such orders lightly. Yes, it appears he has been charged with a Criminal Offence and possibly broken his bail conditions or committed another offence whilst on bail if that is the case the Court will deny him bail, he will stay in prison until his case comes to trial in order to protect the mother and children He will have likely broken a condition or two before, but the likelihood is the litigating bitch is the reason. She probably has a habit of phoning the cops about him and the cops believing every word of it. Family(sic) courts are against men. I do not know anything else except my brother is a friend of his and he was looking to set up a business with him, so he can't be that dodgy as my brother is no fool when it comes to people. He's an electrician by trade and wants to move out of Manchester. We're not talking about some crazy nutter here. Family Courts do not deal with allegations of Domestic Violence their remit as such it is an independent and confidential and is open to any respondent or applicant who identifies as a victim of domestic abuse. Priority is given to people representing themselves and private family law cases involving child disputes and protective orders, they try and mediate between the two parties be it the mother or husband who seeks their guidance. You are guessing what may or may not have happened, so how can you come to any logical conclusion, when it comes to Domestic Violence a Criminal Court deals with such allegations for the simple fact far too many women are seriously injured or even murdered every week, it is also a fact that many men are injured or even killed by their other half, that is why there are Battered Womens Refuges and the same for men |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 11, 2022 16:20:40 GMT
I agree it does seem that way on the limited information Baron has stated or knows, in domestic arguments a Court will issue a Court Order usually to protect the mother and children but only if the Court thinks it warrants it, IMO they don't issue such orders lightly. Yes, it appears he has been charged with a Criminal Offence and possibly broken his bail conditions or committed another offence whilst on bail if that is the case the Court will deny him bail, he will stay in prison until his case comes to trial in order to protect the mother and children He will have likely broken a condition or two before, but the likelihood is the litigating bitch is the reason. She probably has a habit of phoning the cops about him and the cops believing every word of it. Family(sic) courts are against men. I do not know anything else except my brother is a friend of his and he was looking to set up a business with him, so he can't be that dodgy as my brother is no fool when it comes to people. He's an electrician by trade and wants to move out of Manchester. We're not talking about some crazy nutter here. Baron, if your friend has the same piss-poor attitude to women that you clearly do then it's no wonder he ended up in prison over it.
Mind how you go, yeah?
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Post by Handyman on Oct 11, 2022 17:33:53 GMT
He will have likely broken a condition or two before, but the likelihood is the litigating bitch is the reason. She probably has a habit of phoning the cops about him and the cops believing every word of it. Family(sic) courts are against men. I do not know anything else except my brother is a friend of his and he was looking to set up a business with him, so he can't be that dodgy as my brother is no fool when it comes to people. He's an electrician by trade and wants to move out of Manchester. We're not talking about some crazy nutter here. Baron, if your friend has the same piss-poor attitude to women that you clearly do then it's no wonder he ended up in prison over it.
Mind how you go, yeah?
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Post by Toreador on Oct 14, 2022 3:58:47 GMT
I agree it does seem that way on the limited information Baron has stated or knows, in domestic arguments a Court will issue a Court Order usually to protect the mother and children but only if the Court thinks it warrants it, IMO they don't issue such orders lightly. Yes, it appears he has been charged with a Criminal Offence and possibly broken his bail conditions or committed another offence whilst on bail if that is the case the Court will deny him bail, he will stay in prison until his case comes to trial in order to protect the mother and children He will have likely broken a condition or two before, but the likelihood is the litigating bitch is the reason. She probably has a habit of phoning the cops about him and the cops believing every word of it. Family(sic) courts are against men. I do not know anything else except my brother is a friend of his and he was looking to set up a business with him, so he can't be that dodgy as my brother is no fool when it comes to people. He's an electrician by trade and wants to move out of Manchester. We're not talking about some crazy nutter here. Any chance you can drop the constant "Bitch" when referring to women, you are sounding like someone mentioned in your final words. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 14, 2022 15:27:30 GMT
He does not regard women very highly
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 14, 2022 16:59:43 GMT
To be fair, I expect that the feeling's mutual.
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