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Post by Bentley on Jan 7, 2024 22:35:28 GMT
And rightly so . Whatever anyone thinks of the slave trade and I guess most of us agree with its abolition the fact remains the slaves were purchased under contract . Many slaves remained with their former owners as paid labourers ,without the compo there would have been no money to pay them , chaos and starvation would have been the order of the day . You mean they were property properly paid for, so the people who bought them as property in 'good faith' were entitled to be compensated? Are you capable of being property? Or is that a distinction that can only be enjoyed by others? Yes, in areas that slavery still exist and you might well have been capable of being enslaved had you lived in the past too. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 7, 2024 23:00:32 GMT
If abolitionists should be celebrated, a fortiori slave traders shouldn't be celebrated. Well done Bristol! Except Edward Colston was not being celebrated for being a slave trader. You would have to be an imbecile to believe that. But he was a slave trader, right? If anyone tries to erect a statue to Savile for his services to charity, his statue will end up at the bottom of a river too. Nobody will will care that he was not being celebrated for being a paedophile. You'd have to be an imbecile to expect otherwise, Doc. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 7, 2024 23:09:28 GMT
Except Edward Colston was not being celebrated for being a slave trader. You would have to be an imbecile to believe that. But he was a slave trader, right? If anyone tries to erect a statue to Savile for his services to charity, his statue will end up at the bottom of a river too. Nobody will will care that he was not being celebrated for being a paedophile. You'd have to be an imbecile to expect otherwise, Doc. Was the George Floyd statue in New York erected to celebrate him being a vicious violent felon? |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 7, 2024 23:17:11 GMT
But he was a slave trader, right? If anyone tries to erect a statue to Savile for his services to charity, his statue will end up at the bottom of a river too. Nobody will will care that he was not being celebrated for being a paedophile. You'd have to be an imbecile to expect otherwise, Doc. Was the George Floyd statue in New York erected to celebrate him being a vicious violent felon? I've no idea. All I can tell you is that Colston ruined a lot of lives and now his statue is gone. Good riddance. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 7, 2024 23:19:31 GMT
Was the George Floyd statue in New York erected to celebrate him being a vicious violent felon? I've no idea. well that is pretty obvious.. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 7, 2024 23:23:13 GMT
well that is pretty obvious.. I do know that Colston's statue is gone and it's not coming back. Hope that helps.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2024 1:34:41 GMT
Of course, most of that money was used to compensate the slaveholders, not the slaves. And? - are you suggesting stopping slavery was not a good use of funds? Not at all. I am merely saying that morally speaking the oppressed were far more deserving of compensation than the oppressors. But I suppose at the time as is usually the case the oppressors had all the power so had to be bought off. It is nevertheless legitimate to express moral repugnance at oppressors being compensated for the loss of their ability to oppress whilst their victims receive no compensation at all. The undercurrent here of course evidenced by who is saying what and who is liking what is that these victims were only black people so who cares. Its their white masters whom we should be sorry for for having to give up their right of ownership over black people so of course they should have been confiscated. Anything else would just be so irredeemably woke |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 8, 2024 1:36:03 GMT
well that is pretty obvious.. It's been recovered from the drink Darling. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2024 1:44:52 GMT
I do know that Colston's statue is gone and it's not coming back. Hope that helps. It's been recovered from the drink Darling. But it aint going to be put on no plinth in celebration of his life again, me luvver. If it appears in public anywhere it will be accompanied by a description of his role in slavery. Seems like when the authorities fail to do the right thing, it takes people power to force them to. Had I been there I would have helped pull the damn thing down too. When voting changes nothing, change it for yourselves and make them sit up and lister. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 8, 2024 1:48:53 GMT
It's been recovered from the drink Darling. But it aint going to be put on no plinth in celebration of his life again, me luvver. If it appears in public anywhere it will be accompanied by a description of his role in slavery.Seems like when the authorities fail to do the right thing, it takes people power to force them to. Had I been there I would have helped pull the damn thing down too. When voting changes nothing, change it for yourselves and make them sit up and lister. Well some of us are made of sterner stuff than a bunch of lefty arseholes celebrating the death of a coloured criminal in New York. Funny how the coloured girl who was the main instigator of shoving his statue into the sea ended up with a bullet in her thick bonce wasn't it? |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 8, 2024 8:17:58 GMT
And? - are you suggesting stopping slavery was not a good use of funds? Not at all. I am merely saying that morally speaking the oppressed were far more deserving of compensation than the oppressors. But I suppose at the time as is usually the case the oppressors had all the power so had to be bought off. It is nevertheless legitimate to express moral repugnance at oppressors being compensated for the loss of their ability to oppress whilst their victims receive no compensation at all. The undercurrent here of course evidenced by who is saying what and who is liking what is that these victims were only black people so who cares. Its their white masters whom we should be sorry for for having to give up their right of ownership over black people so of course they should have been confiscated. Anything else would just be so irredeemably woke Giving money to the slaves would not have stopped slavery. The UK decided to stop slavery by buying the freedom of the slaves - compared with the US who had a war to free their slaves. In neither case were any slaves paid anything. The slaves who were freed by Britain showed immense gratitude, they didnt expect money from those who had freed them - freedom itself was the reward. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 8, 2024 9:21:19 GMT
But he was a slave trader, right? If anyone tries to erect a statue to Savile for his services to charity, his statue will end up at the bottom of a river too. Nobody will will care that he was not being celebrated for being a paedophile. You'd have to be an imbecile to expect otherwise, Doc. Was the George Floyd statue in New York erected to celebrate him being a vicious violent felon? Floyd was a felon but his activity has been exaggerated by some and then copied by others such as yourself. www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/28/facebook-posts/post-exaggerates-george-floyds-criminal-history/ |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 8, 2024 9:38:05 GMT
He was a total arsehole c2. And starmer and his brainless bint took to their knee's. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 8, 2024 9:52:02 GMT
Take down any tribute the Nelson Mandela because he was a terrorist .
Take down any tribute to Karl Marx because of the millions who died as a result of his political theory .
Why should lefties have all the fun?
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Post by see2 on Jan 11, 2024 9:42:18 GMT
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