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Post by Vinny on Jan 13, 2024 0:25:33 GMT
Australia has a more efficient agricultural sector than the EU. That is why the EU Australia FTA talks failed. Big EU farming lobby sank the proposal.
It isn't a question of need, it's a matter of greed.
Subsidised farmers in the EU make a fortune from the taxpayer. They don't want to face more efficient competition from the biggest agricultural supplier in the Cairns group.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 13, 2024 0:33:52 GMT
1.The dictatorship you support.
2.No but you don't mind preaching how your electric lemons are going to save the world.
3.How many migrants did Dyson employ in the UK? And most of the workers in Malaysia were/are migrant workers.
1.Nope. 2. Yes electric cars will help reduce global warming 3. What are you on about. No one said Dyson employed migrants in any country. 1) At present policies of the EU come from an unelected Commission. So, whilst they talk about democratic reforms, at present it is a dictatorship although members can leave. Their rulers do not offer votes on membership 2) Electric cars have a higher carbon footprint than you realise. There's the fossil fuels used in mining and steel working, transport of components, and also often a carbon footprint in charging. Especially if biomass or gas is used to generate the electricity. 3) Dyson quit manufacturing in the UK when we were in the EU with an overvalued currency and an uncompetitive environment for manufacturing. As did many other firms sadly. I wish we had left sooner. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2024 1:27:02 GMT
Ever thought that the reason why Dyson took production to Malaysia is the same reason that BASF left Germany - high regulation and costs imposed by the EU. Along with BMW and much of VW.. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 13, 2024 1:29:52 GMT
1.Nope. 2. Yes electric cars will help reduce global warming 3. What are you on about. No one said Dyson employed migrants in any country. 1) At present policies of the EU come from an unelected Commission. So, whilst they talk about democratic reforms, at present it is a dictatorship although members can leave. Their rulers do not offer votes on membership Remind us who was chosen to negotiate the withdrawal agreement with the EU, Vinny. The absolute irony of Johnson's promoting Lord Frost, an unelected member of the House of Lords, to the cabinet so that he could negotiate the withdrawal agreement with the EU appears to have been lost on you. It's also odd that so many EU member states rank higher than the UK in the World Democracy Rankings given that they are actually under a dictatorship. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2024 1:32:02 GMT
1.The dictatorship you support.
2.No but you don't mind preaching how your electric lemons are going to save the world.
3.How many migrants did Dyson employ in the UK? And most of the workers in Malaysia were/are migrant workers.
1.Nope. 2. Yes electric cars will help reduce global warming 3. What are you on about. No one said Dyson employed migrants in any country. I maybe you should ask why the people in Poland are up in arms. You have had the links but you chose to ignore the truth. 2 There is no global warming FFS 3 You stated that BRITISH jobs were lost when he pulled out of the UK. Hardly so if they were migrants.
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 13, 2024 1:33:47 GMT
1.Nope. 2. Yes electric cars will help reduce global warming 3. What are you on about. No one said Dyson employed migrants in any country. I maybe you should ask why the people in Poland are up in arms. You have had the links but you chose to ignore the truth. 2 There is no global warming FFS 3 You stated that BRITISH jobs were lost when he pulled out of the UK. Hardly so if they were migrants.
The people of Poland aren't up in arms. They voted in pro-EU parties at the last election. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2024 1:54:48 GMT
Poland is EU Nazi.
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 13, 2024 6:05:26 GMT
You say that the EU has "better" free trade deals than we do. But the disparate nature of the EU means clashing interests and one size fits none trade talks which are more fragile and prone to failure. EU trade talks with Australia recently collapsed did they not? So, your claim is false. Oh and Sir James Dyson is not a member of the board of directors of the company he founded, he left a long time ago. See the Companies House records. Because Australia wants to sell to the EU, but the Eu doesn't need to sell to Aus. That's what it means to be a superpower, you make the rules. Are you saying James Dyson did not move the manufacturing to Malaysia? Superpower - the EU. Haha, I've read it all now. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2024 7:40:29 GMT
I maybe you should ask why the people in Poland are up in arms. You have had the links but you chose to ignore the truth. 2 There is no global warming FFS 3 You stated that BRITISH jobs were lost when he pulled out of the UK. Hardly so if they were migrants.
The people of Poland aren't up in arms. They voted in pro-EU parties at the last election. Yes they are, over the stifling of information and state controlled media. What comes next burning of books maybe or chrystal nights? Didn't some arsehole try that in 1938 and we all know what that led too. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2024 7:45:30 GMT
Australia has a more efficient agricultural sector than the EU. That is why the EU Australia FTA talks failed. Big EU farming lobby sank the proposal. It isn't a question of need, it's a matter of greed. Subsidised farmers in the EU make a fortune from the taxpayer. They don't want to face more efficient competition from the biggest agricultural supplier in the Cairns group. Australia has a vast country with a very small population, farming is cheap. But yes the EU does protect the living standards of its citizens. So does America, Trump was a particular supporter of the idea. Have you considered what you are proposing Vinny or is this just a jab at the EU? Stop the EU from using Tariffs to keep imports more expensive than locally produced goods? How long before everything in the EU came rom outside? Goods from China and India, food from Africa. All economies with far lower standards of living. So no jobs in the EU unless you work for Indian wages with Indian levels of regulation and safety. Now say that's what you would want for now free the UK? |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 13, 2024 7:54:01 GMT
1.Nope. 2. Yes electric cars will help reduce global warming 3. What are you on about. No one said Dyson employed migrants in any country. 1) At present policies of the EU come from an unelected Commission. So, whilst they talk about democratic reforms, at present it is a dictatorship although members can leave. Their rulers do not offer votes on membership 2) Electric cars have a higher carbon footprint than you realise. There's the fossil fuels used in mining and steel working, transport of components, and also often a carbon footprint in charging. Especially if biomass or gas is used to generate the electricity. 3) Dyson quit manufacturing in the UK when we were in the EU with an overvalued currency and an uncompetitive environment for manufacturing. As did many other firms sadly. I wish we had left sooner. The commission cannot vote. Legislation is rejected, amended or passed via three elected bodies...the council, the parliament and each national government. Dyson left to take advantage of cheap labour and tax advantages. But their products are still vastly overpriced. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2024 7:58:31 GMT
1.Nope. 2. Yes electric cars will help reduce global warming 3. What are you on about. No one said Dyson employed migrants in any country. 1) At present policies of the EU come from an unelected Commission. So, whilst they talk about democratic reforms, at present it is a dictatorship although members can leave. Their rulers do not offer votes on membership 2) Electric cars have a higher carbon footprint than you realise. There's the fossil fuels used in mining and steel working, transport of components, and also often a carbon footprint in charging. Especially if biomass or gas is used to generate the electricity. 3) Dyson quit manufacturing in the UK when we were in the EU with an overvalued currency and an uncompetitive environment for manufacturing. As did many other firms sadly. I wish we had left sooner. 1, Surely you must know that's not how it works, I mean it was a good sales pitch for Brexit, but it wasn't true. 2, There are numerous studies showing lifetime carbon footprints of electric cars are many times less than ICE ones. The cheating scumbag studies tried to include all manufacturing energy of new EV's and comparing it to 5 years of mostly existing ICE ones. Biomass is carbon neutral. Gas generation is reducing year on year, that's the idea. 3, Think about what you've just said. You want a manufacturing environment equal to Malaysia? You'll notice he didn't move it to America or any other Western country with standards taken for granted in the Western world. Dyson is the worst sort of hypocrite, he lives in the safe wonderful UK but doesn't want to pay the cost. If you are genuinely saying you want to the UK to be like Malaysia, then I apologise for misunderstanding you, but I think you want your cake and your happeny. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2024 8:01:15 GMT
1) At present policies of the EU come from an unelected Commission. So, whilst they talk about democratic reforms, at present it is a dictatorship although members can leave. Their rulers do not offer votes on membership 2) Electric cars have a higher carbon footprint than you realise. There's the fossil fuels used in mining and steel working, transport of components, and also often a carbon footprint in charging. Especially if biomass or gas is used to generate the electricity. 3) Dyson quit manufacturing in the UK when we were in the EU with an overvalued currency and an uncompetitive environment for manufacturing. As did many other firms sadly. I wish we had left sooner. 1, Surely you must know that's not how it works, I mean it was a good sales pitch for Brexit, but it wasn't true. 2, There are numerous studies showing lifetime carbon footprints of electric cars are many times less than ICE ones. The cheating scumbag studies tried to include all manufacturing energy of new EV's and comparing it to 5 years of mostly existing ICE ones. Biomass is carbon neutral. Gas generation is reducing year on year, that's the idea. 3, Think about what you've just said. You want a manufacturing environment equal to Malaysia? You'll notice he didn't move it to America or any other Western country with standards taken for granted in the Western world. Dyson is the worst sort of hypocrite, he lives in the safe wonderful UK but doesn't want to pay the cost. If you are genuinely saying you want to the UK to be like Malaysia, then I apologise for misunderstanding you, but I think you want your cake and your happeny. Why Europe's farmers have had enough of their politicians as EUSSR is crippled by protests.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2024 8:03:33 GMT
1.Nope. 2. Yes electric cars will help reduce global warming 3. What are you on about. No one said Dyson employed migrants in any country. I maybe you should ask why the people in Poland are up in arms. You have had the links but you chose to ignore the truth. 2 There is no global warming FFS 3 You stated that BRITISH jobs were lost when he pulled out of the UK. Hardly so if they were migrants.
1,Maybe you should ask why no one wants to leave. 2, Absolutely, its the lizard people and their death ray 3, Who said they were migrants? And what about the tax going into running this country? Are you another of those who wants all the goodies of England but none of the costs? |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2024 8:05:36 GMT
Because Australia wants to sell to the EU, but the Eu doesn't need to sell to Aus. That's what it means to be a superpower, you make the rules. Are you saying James Dyson did not move the manufacturing to Malaysia? Superpower - the EU. Haha, I've read it all now. The EU not a superpower. I've read it all now. Is America a super power? |
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