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Post by sheepy on Nov 13, 2022 12:43:55 GMT
I somehow doubt that was a realistic view of the population as a whole. Good for a little propaganda perhaps. And I doubt your view of 'woke' is a realistic view of the younger generation. But then I am listening and can hear what they say. Which bit isn't based on psychology and fear? |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 13, 2022 12:48:19 GMT
And I doubt your view of 'woke' is a realistic view of the younger generation. But then I am listening and can hear what they say. Which bit isn't based on psychology and fear? Who is 'they'? If all of the younger generation of your era weren't punk rockers and football hooligans, why do you suppose all the current younger generation are committed to woke? And I've no idea what point you're trying to make with your 'which bit isn't based on psychology and fear?' remark. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 13, 2022 12:50:16 GMT
But then I am listening and can hear what they say. Which bit isn't based on psychology and fear? Who is 'they'? If all of the younger generation of your era weren't punk rockers and football hooligans, why do you suppose all the current younger generation are committed to woke? Well according to the ones who write here of the woke they speak for them all. So, if they don't where are the opposition? |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 13, 2022 12:51:48 GMT
Who is 'they'? If all of the younger generation of your era weren't punk rockers and football hooligans, why do you suppose all the current younger generation are committed to woke? Well according to the ones who write here of the woke they speak for them all. So, if they don't where are the opposition? Given that 99% of us haven't a clue what woke actually means, I doubt anyone here is claiming to 'speak for them all'. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 13, 2022 12:54:35 GMT
Well according to the ones who write here of the woke they speak for them all. So, if they don't where are the opposition? Given that 99% of us haven't a clue what woke actually means, I doubt anyone here is claiming to 'speak for them all'. All this caring about each other and the environment is a symptom of a society in terminal decline. Make up your mind. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 13, 2022 12:58:06 GMT
Given that 99% of us haven't a clue what woke actually means, I doubt anyone here is claiming to 'speak for them all'. All this caring about each other and the environment is a symptom of a society in terminal decline. Make up your mind. Right, so woke is a commitment to equal opportunities and the environment? It sounds like a renaissance of Enlightenment ideals. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 13, 2022 13:03:23 GMT
All this caring about each other and the environment is a symptom of a society in terminal decline. Make up your mind. Right, so woke is a commitment to equal opportunities and the environment? Based on what? because according to you it is better than what went previously. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 13, 2022 13:05:48 GMT
Right, so woke is a commitment to equal opportunities and the environment? Based on what? because according to you it is better than what went previously. As far as cultural trends go, aggressively caring about the environment is an improvement on wide-scale football hooliganism. Drop the implied bullshit claim that there was a utopian pre-woke era. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 13, 2022 13:17:06 GMT
Based on what? because according to you it is better than what went previously. As far as cultural trends go, aggressively caring about the environment is an improvement on wide-scale football hooliganism. Drop the implied bullshit claim that there was a utopian pre-woke era. Ah so it is using fear and psychology as a means of creating yet another utopian dream. Well, we can see what it has done to the mental health for ourselves as I said earlier. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 13, 2022 13:19:52 GMT
As far as cultural trends go, aggressively caring about the environment is an improvement on wide-scale football hooliganism. Drop the implied bullshit claim that there was a utopian pre-woke era. Ah so it is using fear and psychology as a means of creating yet another utopian dream. Well, we can see what it has done to the mental health for ourselves as I said earlier. Woke is hardly a 'utopian dream', but, considering what went before, we can at least describe it as progress. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 13, 2022 13:31:15 GMT
Ah so it is using fear and psychology as a means of creating yet another utopian dream. Well, we can see what it has done to the mental health for ourselves as I said earlier. Woke is hardly a 'utopian dream', but, considering what went before, we can at least describe it as progress. Sounds like something from one flew over the cuckoo's nest without the Electric Shock treatment. In the name of progress nothing is sacred. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 13, 2022 13:36:20 GMT
Woke is hardly a 'utopian dream', but, considering what went before, we can at least describe it as progress. Sounds like something from one flew over the cuckoo's nest without the Electric Shock treatment. In the name of progress nothing is sacred. The worst excesses of your generation saw Britain exporting football hooliganism and racism to the world. The worst excesses of the current generation see people gluing themselves to roads from (misguided?) concern for the future of the world. Their methods aren't exactly praiseworthy, but it's an improvement on what your generation had to offer. Maybe the next evolution will deliver paradise. |
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Post by colbops on Nov 13, 2022 13:41:57 GMT
Well a couple of posters on here have described me as woke. I'm not really sure what it is, and having read this thread I'm none the wiser. Don't recognise myself in any of the descriptions. That's the sick tactic of the far right swivel eyed. They'll call you 'Woke' for caring about others and then demonise you by pretending that 'Woke' means jihadist law breakers on the M25. And they'll be offensive when their shit behaviour is pointed out And yet it is ok for you to be offensive and employ 'shit behaviour' like labelling people 'far right', and 'swivel eyed' when they disagree with you? |
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Post by see2 on Nov 13, 2022 14:11:27 GMT
That's the sick tactic of the far right swivel eyed. They'll call you 'Woke' for caring about others and then demonise you by pretending that 'Woke' means jihadist law breakers on the M25. And they'll be offensive when their shit behaviour is pointed out And yet it is ok for you to be offensive and employ 'shit behaviour' like labelling people 'far right', and 'swivel eyed' when they disagree with you? It does look as if it is the Right and the Far-Right who are the ones too ready to overuse the accusation of being woke. |
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Post by colbops on Nov 13, 2022 14:26:58 GMT
And yet it is ok for you to be offensive and employ 'shit behaviour' like labelling people 'far right', and 'swivel eyed' when they disagree with you? It does look as if it is the Right and the Far-Right who are the ones too ready to overuse the accusation of being woke. That's just a self fulfilling prophesy though isn't it. Someone trots out the woke label, and someone else trots out the right/far right label and applies it to the person who trotted out the woke label. Label wars are one of the most bizzare things that has come out of the march towards individualism. The more societal norms break down and people are challenged to deal with others as individuals, the more people try to apply labels to people in order to generalise about swathes of people. It all seems a bit futile and silly to me. |
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