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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 31, 2023 15:53:16 GMT
Ok so this isn't a trick question, because that's what you'll say.
This requires a straight answer, not your riddles.
What is Starmer doing about the illegal migrants crossing from France, what is his policy, we know he doesn't agree with Rwanda, so what's his alternative?
Because I don't know, and most people don't know.
Wait for the Manifesto, that's what Manifestos are for. Apart from anything else, a change in circumstances could wipe out some plans, that is why it is not advisable to post a manifesto too soon. Who knows, there may be thousands of migrants being shipped off to Rwanda before the next election. LOL....... How did I know we wouldn't get a straight answer from you.
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Post by thomas on Dec 31, 2023 16:19:38 GMT
Wait for the Manifesto, that's what Manifestos are for. Apart from anything else, a change in circumstances could wipe out some plans, that is why it is not advisable to post a manifesto too soon. Who knows, there may be thousands of migrants being shipped off to Rwanda before the next election. LOL....... How did I know we wouldn't get a straight answer from you. defending the Iraq war. Defending PFI debacles.Trying to punt labour as the champion of migration control. By christ , see 2 really does pick his hills to dies on doesn't he? Anyone with any sense would be steering well clear of the topics when trying to punt the lamentable starmer as some sort of credible politician.
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 31, 2023 16:37:46 GMT
LOL....... How did I know we wouldn't get a straight answer from you. defending the Iraq war. Defending PFI debacles.Trying to punt labour as the champion of migration control. By christ , see 2 really does pick his hills to dies on doesn't he? Anyone with any sense would be steering well clear of the topics when trying to punt the lamentable starmer as some sort of credible politician. To be honest any one who looks up to Blair is instantly on my 'insane' list, you couldn't possibly take any one serious who makes excuses for that war monger war criminal.
see2 is a prime example of the lefty woke snowflake loons, they are a very dangerous bunch, we only read his posts and it's quite frightening, imagine tens of thousands of see2s, be afraid be very afraid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2023 16:40:12 GMT
The Iraq war was instigated by a Scotsman. See2 is supportive of this Scotsman, but maybe not for the same reasons. The only reason the Scotnats are anti-Labour is because Labour has a chance in Scotland to tackle the ScotNats. Don't be under any illusion that the ScotNats give a damn about anything other than themselves.
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Post by thomas on Dec 31, 2023 16:42:24 GMT
if you are born in a stable chookie , it doest make you a horse. He represented an English constituency. I can't help it if the good people of north east England thought Blair worthy of election.
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Post by ratcliff on Dec 31, 2023 17:19:41 GMT
LOL....... How did I know we wouldn't get a straight answer from you. defending the Iraq war. Defending PFI debacles.Trying to punt labour as the champion of migration control. By christ , see 2 really does pick his hills to dies on doesn't he? Anyone with any sense would be steering well clear of the topics when trying to punt the lamentable starmer as some sort of credible politician. I'm wondering if it's a Russian bot trolling this forum rather than a flesh and blood pixel poster? Surely no real person could be as stupid as to post their opinions as fact on their so called ''specialist subjects'' unless they'd been programmed with the bot mantras 1) Blair is a deity 2) Brown is god 3) Labour saved the world 4) Anyone who disagrees needs reprograming etc
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Post by ratcliff on Dec 31, 2023 17:23:09 GMT
if you are born in a stable chookie , it doest make you a horse. He represented an English constituency. I can't help it if the good people of north east England thought Blair worthy of election. Amazes me that lefties love to highlight any politician who was schooled at Eton , yet they ignore that Blair was educated at the seriously posh Fettes - the Scottish version of Eton
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 31, 2023 17:24:24 GMT
defending the Iraq war. Defending PFI debacles.Trying to punt labour as the champion of migration control. By christ , see 2 really does pick his hills to dies on doesn't he? Anyone with any sense would be steering well clear of the topics when trying to punt the lamentable starmer as some sort of credible politician. I'm wondering if it's a Russian bot trolling this forum rather than a flesh and blood pixel poster? Surely no real person could be as stupid as to post their opinions as fact on their so called ''specialist subjects'' unless they'd been programmed with the bot mantras 1) Blair is a deity 2) Brown is god 3) Labour saved the world 4) Anyone who disagrees needs reprograming etc Fair point. What we have is a "Person" who appears to support the party despite having no idea what the party actually stands for. "Support the party, no matter what" is not a rational position.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 1, 2024 7:44:47 GMT
Starmer feels the heat as one his own MPs brands him an ‘elusive leader'
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Post by see2 on Jan 1, 2024 11:05:53 GMT
Wait for the Manifesto, that's what Manifestos are for. Apart from anything else, a change in circumstances could wipe out some plans, that is why it is not advisable to post a manifesto too soon. Who knows, there may be thousands of migrants being shipped off to Rwanda before the next election. LOL....... How did I know we wouldn't get a straight answer from you. You did get a straight, honest and commonsense answer, but you needed commonsense to understand it.
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Post by see2 on Jan 1, 2024 11:11:21 GMT
Starmer feels the heat as one his own MPs brands him an ‘elusive leader'
Too elusive for the slippery misleading insinuating Tory propaganda machine to pin down. Well done Starmer, full marks IMO. Just as long as he reveals his manifesto before the next election.
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Post by see2 on Jan 1, 2024 11:24:40 GMT
LOL....... How did I know we wouldn't get a straight answer from you. defending the Iraq war. Defending PFI debacles.Trying to punt labour as the champion of migration control. By christ , see 2 really does pick his hills to dies on doesn't he? Anyone with any sense would be steering well clear of the topics when trying to punt the lamentable starmer as some sort of credible politician. Defending the truth about the invasion of Iraq. Explaining the reality of PFIs, as opposed to posting undefined cherry picked comments by yourself. I never ever tried to make out that Labour were the "champion of migration control", that is just a lie. Not to worry, your garbage will go down well amongst your mates in the ale house after half a dozen pints, or whatever it is they drink--or take. If Starmer is elected, his actions thereafter will determine whether or not he is a "credible politician", not your mindless pre-election ramblings.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 1, 2024 11:32:16 GMT
Starmer feels the heat as one his own MPs brands him an ‘elusive leader'
Too elusive for the slippery misleading insinuating Tory propaganda machine to pin down. Well done Starmer, full marks IMO. Just as long as he reveals his manifesto before the next election. What manifesto? All we have starmer are topical soundbites which expire when the mood of the country changes.
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Post by see2 on Jan 1, 2024 11:34:14 GMT
The Iraq war was instigated by a Scotsman. See2 is supportive of this Scotsman, but maybe not for the same reasons. The only reason the Scotnats are anti-Labour is because Labour has a chance in Scotland to tackle the ScotNats. Don't be under any illusion that the ScotNats give a damn about anything other than themselves. Saddam Hussein was definitely not a "Scotsman". All Saddam had to do was to comply with the Ceasefire agreement he signed up to in 1991 and there would not have been an invasion. That is as obvious as the nose on your face.
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Post by see2 on Jan 1, 2024 11:37:49 GMT
Too elusive for the slippery misleading insinuating Tory propaganda machine to pin down. Well done Starmer, full marks IMO. Just as long as he reveals his manifesto before the next election. What manifesto? All we have starmer are topical soundbites which expire when the mood of the country changes. So you are not aware of the fact that Manifestos are revealed before elections. Boris Johnson revealed his 2019 manifesto just 18 days before the 2019 election.
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