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Post by thomas on Dec 31, 2023 10:48:39 GMT
I wonder where they will hide abacus? You have to laugh really, Labour will run its election campaign, but try to keep Starmer/Rayner/Abbott from doing interviews because every time they open their mouths they put their foot in it. Imagine a political party with a leader and deputy leader that are so unelectable.
John Curtice , the polling guru has pointed out starmer is as unpopular as previous labour leaders who went on to lose general elections. I think his one redeeming factor is that Sunak is more disliked than what he is , especially among the tory grass roots and voting base. There is something clearly wrong with western democracy when the UK and USA are offering up the cream of the political elite as Biden , Trump , Sunak ,and this clown starmer. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 31, 2023 11:36:16 GMT
I wonder where they will hide abacus? You have to laugh really, Labour will run its election campaign, but try to keep Starmer/Rayner/Abbott from doing interviews because every time they open their mouths they put their foot in it. Imagine a political party with a leader and deputy leader that are so unelectable.
Well the US are just the same - Biden won last time by hiding in his basement, this time his team are trying to find any way possible for him not to have to mix it in a one-2-one with Trump. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 31, 2023 14:45:53 GMT
You have to laugh really, Labour will run its election campaign, but try to keep Starmer/Rayner/Abbott from doing interviews because every time they open their mouths they put their foot in it. Imagine a political party with a leader and deputy leader that are so unelectable.
John Curtice , the polling guru has pointed out starmer is as unpopular as previous labour leaders who went on to lose general elections. I think his one redeeming factor is that Sunak is more disliked than what he is , especially among the tory grass roots and voting base. There is something clearly wrong with western democracy when the UK and USA are offering up the cream of the political elite as Biden , Trump , Sunak ,and this clown starmer. The 'clowns' are or were the people who elected the likes of Boris, Trump and the Conservatives who promoted Sunak. We will know about Biden when he has completed his term in office, ditto Starmer if he gets the opportunity. |
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Post by thomas on Dec 31, 2023 14:53:19 GMT
John Curtice , the polling guru has pointed out starmer is as unpopular as previous labour leaders who went on to lose general elections. I think his one redeeming factor is that Sunak is more disliked than what he is , especially among the tory grass roots and voting base. There is something clearly wrong with western democracy when the UK and USA are offering up the cream of the political elite as Biden , Trump , Sunak ,and this clown starmer. The 'clowns' are or were the people who elected the likes of Boris, Trump and the Conservatives who promoted Sunak. We will know about Biden when he has completed his term in office, ditto Starmer if he gets the opportunity. I won't be voting for starmer and his party. How can anyone give starmer a chance when none of us know what he stands for? Im looking forward to him getting a grilling and being forced to put ideas into a manifesto. He can't keep hiding all the way to voting time. |
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Post by ratcliff on Dec 31, 2023 14:54:45 GMT
The election hasn't even begun and already he is running away from scrutiny..  Apparently it is his team that is trying to avoid it. Why take any chances? A lesson learnt maybe from the fact that the very talented Gordon Brown showed that open debate on TV was not his forte? But I don't blame Righties for putting any amount of denigrating comments on it, after all denigration IS one of their forte's.
Joke telling isn't your forte C2 - try a different hobby The one eyed history teacher doesn't have a single talented bone in his incompetent body (unless you count insulting and throwing office equipment at staff , insulting his own voters, being a miserable bars**rd or pushing people down stairs ) |
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Post by see2 on Dec 31, 2023 14:56:33 GMT
You have to laugh really, Labour will run its election campaign, but try to keep Starmer/Rayner/Abbott from doing interviews because every time they open their mouths they put their foot in it. Imagine a political party with a leader and deputy leader that are so unelectable.
Well the US are just the same - Biden won last time by hiding in his basement, this time his team are trying to find any way possible for him not to have to mix it in a one-2-one with Trump. I guess that you like myself have seen Trump in his 'one to one' debates. He behaves like an aggressive moron, just as he is doing with his behaviour against those who give evidence against him and his arrogance in his attacks on Legal people. This would be dictator is the most complete moron in politics. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 31, 2023 14:56:39 GMT
Apparently it is his team that is trying to avoid it. Why take any chances? A lesson learnt maybe from the fact that the very talented Gordon Brown showed that open debate on TV was not his forte? But I don't blame Righties for putting any amount of denigrating comments on it, after all denigration IS one of their forte's.
Joke telling isn't your forte C2 - try a different hobby The one eyed history teacher doesn't have a single talented bone in his incompetent body (unless you count insulting and throwing office equipment at staff , insulting his own voters, being a miserable bars**rd or pushing people down stairs ) Everyone is allowed talents. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 31, 2023 15:14:23 GMT
The 'clowns' are or were the people who elected the likes of Boris, Trump and the Conservatives who promoted Sunak. We will know about Biden when he has completed his term in office, ditto Starmer if he gets the opportunity. I won't be voting for starmer and his party. How can anyone give starmer a chance when none of us know what he stands for? Im looking forward to him getting a grilling and being forced to put ideas into a manifesto. He can't keep hiding all the way to voting time. Boris Johnson revealed his 2019 manifesto on the 24 of November 2019. Boris Johnson elected on the 12 December 2019. A gap of 18 Days. so why all the whinging about Starmer's manifesto? He will quite naturally reveal his manifesto when he decides its the right time. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 31, 2023 15:18:04 GMT
I won't be voting for starmer and his party. How can anyone give starmer a chance when none of us know what he stands for? Im looking forward to him getting a grilling and being forced to put ideas into a manifesto. He can't keep hiding all the way to voting time. Boris Johnson revealed his 2019 manifesto on the 24 of November 2019. Boris Johnson elected on the 12 December 2019. A gap of 18 Days. so why all the whinging about Starmer's manifesto? He will quite naturally reveal his manifesto when he decides its the right time. Flip flop will do a lot more flip flopping before the next GE, he can't set anything in stone because he changes his mind more often than the staff change your undies, Boris Johnson made it clear well before November he was going to 'deliver Brexit', and the only reason there was a snap GE because Corbyn and all the lefty remoaners tried to sabotage it. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 31, 2023 15:19:36 GMT
Apparently it is his team that is trying to avoid it. Why take any chances? A lesson learnt maybe from the fact that the very talented Gordon Brown showed that open debate on TV was not his forte? But I don't blame Righties for putting any amount of denigrating comments on it, after all denigration IS one of their forte's.
Joke telling isn't your forte C2 - try a different hobby The one eyed history teacher doesn't have a single talented bone in his incompetent body (unless you count insulting and throwing office equipment at staff , insulting his own voters, being a miserable bars**rd or pushing people down stairs ) Well I certainly will not be taking any notice of the opinion of a political ignoramus like yourself. Post what in your opinion is the main thing Brown got wrong, and watch me educate you LOL |
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Post by thomas on Dec 31, 2023 15:20:34 GMT
I won't be voting for starmer and his party. How can anyone give starmer a chance when none of us know what he stands for? Im looking forward to him getting a grilling and being forced to put ideas into a manifesto. He can't keep hiding all the way to voting time. Boris Johnson revealed his 2019 manifesto on the 24 of November 2019. Boris Johnson elected on the 12 December 2019. A gap of 18 Days. so why all the whinging about Starmer's manifesto? He will quite naturally reveal his manifesto when he decides its the right time. we knew what Johnsons main platform for election was that he stood on....getting Brexit done. The small print of the manifesto was largely in the shadow of that. With starmer we know nothing except during that 2019 election his poor advice to corbyn was one of the main reasons Labour were smashed , with 60 % of their constituencies in England voting and supporting Brexit. so we have a serial loser in starmer , with poor tactics , who is too cowardly to tell the public what he stands for . The SNP have recently said starmers policy and new year resolution should be no more u turns . If your party can't have the courage of its convictions to stand under it beliefs and tell us what we are voting for , why should anyone vote them in ? |
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Post by see2 on Dec 31, 2023 15:29:56 GMT
Boris Johnson revealed his 2019 manifesto on the 24 of November 2019. Boris Johnson elected on the 12 December 2019. A gap of 18 Days. so why all the whinging about Starmer's manifesto? He will quite naturally reveal his manifesto when he decides its the right time. Flip flop will do a lot more flip flopping before the next GE, he can't set anything in stone because he changes his mind more often than the staff change your undies, Boris Johnson made it clear well before November he was going to 'deliver Brexit', and the only reason there was a snap GE because Corbyn and all the lefty remoaners tried to sabotage it. So you choose to ignore the truth of my post, just shows how much your brains has been damaged by taking too much notice of stupidly formed opinions. Many of Starmer's Intention of political movement were laid down in 2019 before Covid, Covid forced a rethink in many ways. Righties and Outliers dishonestly refer to the changes as flip flopping, but that's just how dishonest Righties tend to be. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 31, 2023 15:34:11 GMT
Flip flop will do a lot more flip flopping before the next GE, he can't set anything in stone because he changes his mind more often than the staff change your undies, Boris Johnson made it clear well before November he was going to 'deliver Brexit', and the only reason there was a snap GE because Corbyn and all the lefty remoaners tried to sabotage it. So you choose to ignore the truth of my post, just shows how much your brains has been damaged by taking too much notice of stupidly formed opinions. Many of Starmer's Intention of political movement were laid down in 2019 before Covid, Covid forced a rethink in many ways. Righties and Outliers dishonestly refer to the changes as flip flopping, but that's just how dishonest Righties tend to be. Ok so this isn't a trick question, because that's what you'll say.
This requires a straight answer, not your riddles.
What is Starmer doing about the illegal migrants crossing from France, what is his policy, we know he doesn't agree with Rwanda, so what's his alternative?
Because I don't know, and most people don't know.
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Post by see2 on Dec 31, 2023 15:40:26 GMT
Boris Johnson revealed his 2019 manifesto on the 24 of November 2019. Boris Johnson elected on the 12 December 2019. A gap of 18 Days. so why all the whinging about Starmer's manifesto? He will quite naturally reveal his manifesto when he decides its the right time. we knew what Johnsons main platform for election was that he stood on....getting Brexit done. The small print of the manifesto was largely in the shadow of that. With starmer we know nothing except during that 2019 election his poor advice to corbyn was one of the main reasons Labour were smashed , with 60 % of their constituencies in England voting and supporting Brexit. so we have a serial loser in starmer , with poor tactics , who is too cowardly to tell the public what he stands for . The SNP have recently said starmers policy and new year resolution should be no more u turns . If your party can't have the courage of its convictions to stand under it beliefs and tell us what we are voting for , why should anyone vote them in ? Neat effort at hiding the reality, its as if you don't know what a manifesto is, but of course you do, so why try to hide it? You political bias destroys any logic, or ability you might have to be objective, which makes your post positively ignorable. So 18 days notice is in your opinion courageous LOL, you bias is tying you up in knots. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 31, 2023 15:48:03 GMT
So you choose to ignore the truth of my post, just shows how much your brains has been damaged by taking too much notice of stupidly formed opinions. Many of Starmer's Intention of political movement were laid down in 2019 before Covid, Covid forced a rethink in many ways. Righties and Outliers dishonestly refer to the changes as flip flopping, but that's just how dishonest Righties tend to be. Ok so this isn't a trick question, because that's what you'll say.
This requires a straight answer, not your riddles.
What is Starmer doing about the illegal migrants crossing from France, what is his policy, we know he doesn't agree with Rwanda, so what's his alternative?
Because I don't know, and most people don't know.
Wait for the Manifesto, that's what Manifestos are for. Apart from anything else, a change in circumstances could wipe out some plans, that is why it is not advisable to post a manifesto too soon. Who knows, there may be thousands of migrants being shipped off to Rwanda before the next election. |
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