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Post by sandypine on Dec 29, 2023 14:49:45 GMT
Judging by comments on various forums over the years, the BBC must surely have enough Jewish employees to ensure the corporation doesn't display anti-Semitic bias — or are they all now renegades...? I thought the position on the centre and the left was that being anti Israel was not the same as anti Jewish. Jewish employees may be anti Israel. What confuses the issue is that anti Semites will certainly be anti Israel just as the left were telling us that not all Leavers were racist but all racists were Leavers |
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Post by thomas on Dec 29, 2023 14:58:16 GMT
EDIT: bless, he posted an animated gif to prove his political prowess.
pleading with mods to defend you , or talking to yourself while ignoring the topic of the thread seems to be your forte chookie. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 15:01:48 GMT
Why would I plead with a troll? I'm very aware of what is going on.
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Post by patman post on Dec 29, 2023 15:20:33 GMT
Judging by comments on various forums over the years, the BBC must surely have enough Jewish employees to ensure the corporation doesn't display anti-Semitic bias — or are they all now renegades...? I thought the position on the centre and the left was that being anti Israel was not the same as anti Jewish. Jewish employees may be anti Israel. What confuses the issue is that anti Semites will certainly be anti Israel just as the left were telling us that not all Leavers were racist but all racists were Leavers You're obviously correct, but as the second post in this thread introduced anti-Semitism into the discussion, I thought that aspect could be queried... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 15:26:08 GMT
I thought the position on the centre and the left was that being anti Israel was not the same as anti Jewish. Jewish employees may be anti Israel. What confuses the issue is that anti Semites will certainly be anti Israel just as the left were telling us that not all Leavers were racist but all racists were Leavers You're obviously correct, but as the second post in this thread introduced anti-Semitism into the discussion, I thought that aspect could be queried... There's a lot of it about. Have you seen the news? Jews are being attacked in the cities. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 29, 2023 15:28:38 GMT
I thought the position on the centre and the left was that being anti Israel was not the same as anti Jewish. Jewish employees may be anti Israel. What confuses the issue is that anti Semites will certainly be anti Israel just as the left were telling us that not all Leavers were racist but all racists were Leavers You're obviously correct, but as the second post in this thread introduced anti-Semitism into the discussion, I thought that aspect could be queried... I suppose the obvious query is is criticism of Israel fair fact based criticism or is it wrapped up and expanded by anti semitism. One suspects that anti semitism lends a strong bias to news in that respect despite the existence of Jews in the BBC. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 29, 2023 15:39:52 GMT
Judging by comments on various forums over the years, the BBC must surely have enough Jewish employees to ensure the corporation doesn't display anti-Semitic bias — or are they all now renegades...? How many Jewish employees does the BBC have? I do note that the BBC are still keeping secret the results of the Balen report 20 years later - must have been pretty damaging. |
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Post by patman post on Dec 29, 2023 15:55:30 GMT
You're obviously correct, but as the second post in this thread introduced anti-Semitism into the discussion, I thought that aspect could be queried... I suppose the obvious query is is criticism of Israel fair fact based criticism or is it wrapped up and expanded by anti semitism. One suspects that anti semitism lends a strong bias to news in that respect despite the existence of Jews in the BBC. There, you and I differ. While the BBC gives airtime to vastly differing views, my perception is that it presents as many sides as possible in order for its audience to have access to all views. This obviously upsets those who believe only their side should have their views broadcast.
Didn't the British government interfere with this stance when it tried to impose censorship on British** broadcast media by banning the voices of certain groups in the late '80s to mid '90s...?
** Admittedly, the ROI did similar
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Post by sheepy on Dec 29, 2023 16:08:50 GMT
Why would I plead with a troll? I'm very aware of what is going on. Oh, like there are plenty of real victims and it ain't you, there are over a thousand Israelis and tens of thousands of Palestinians. Who have had their land stolen and murdered for it. So, give it a fecking rest. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 21:27:47 GMT
Judging by comments on various forums over the years, the BBC must surely have enough Jewish employees to ensure the corporation doesn't display anti-Semitic bias — or are they all now renegades...? How many Jewish employees does the BBC have? I do note that the BBC are still keeping secret the results of the Balen report 20 years later - must have been pretty damaging. And have spent £333,000 in legal fees to keep it under wraps, hush hush. It speaks volumes. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 29, 2023 21:51:46 GMT
I suppose the obvious query is is criticism of Israel fair fact based criticism or is it wrapped up and expanded by anti semitism. One suspects that anti semitism lends a strong bias to news in that respect despite the existence of Jews in the BBC. There, you and I differ. While the BBC gives airtime to vastly differing views, my perception is that it presents as many sides as possible in order for its audience to have access to all views. This obviously upsets those who believe only their side should have their views broadcast.
Didn't the British government interfere with this stance when it tried to impose censorship on British** broadcast media by banning the voices of certain groups in the late '80s to mid '90s...?
** Admittedly, the ROI did similar
No it presents as many sides as possible within a given framework which is not the same thing. If there is a discussion on AGW it may contain viewpoints from a wide range of people who disagree on what should be done and how far we should go but rarely from anyone now who says it is all bunkum. As regards asylum it will look at problems of dealing with it within the confines of keeping on supplying asylum it never looks at the solutions that many of the British people wish to be taken. There is editorial policy on how wide to cast the net of comment on many subjects, the days of having true radicals on has passed unless they reside to the left. |
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Post by patman post on Dec 30, 2023 13:35:05 GMT
There, you and I differ. While the BBC gives airtime to vastly differing views, my perception is that it presents as many sides as possible in order for its audience to have access to all views. This obviously upsets those who believe only their side should have their views broadcast.
Didn't the British government interfere with this stance when it tried to impose censorship on British** broadcast media by banning the voices of certain groups in the late '80s to mid '90s...?
** Admittedly, the ROI did similar
No it presents as many sides as possible within a given framework which is not the same thing. If there is a discussion on AGW it may contain viewpoints from a wide range of people who disagree on what should be done and how far we should go but rarely from anyone now who says it is all bunkum. As regards asylum it will look at problems of dealing with it within the confines of keeping on supplying asylum it never looks at the solutions that many of the British people wish to be taken. There is editorial policy on how wide to cast the net of comment on many subjects, the days of having true radicals on has passed unless they reside to the left. They're your views, and I've no reason to believe they're not sincerely held, but they don't coincide with my own observations and experience.
However, that doesn't mean the BBC doesn't broadcast views and opinions I profoundly disagree with, or make mistakes, but reports of events and topics evolve over time. Info may change, and I cannot recall the BBC leaving wrong information without correction once it's been shown to have been incorrect...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2023 16:07:43 GMT
Why would I plead with a troll? I'm very aware of what is going on. Oh, like there are plenty of real victims and it ain't you, there are over a thousand Israelis and tens of thousands of Palestinians. Who have had their land stolen and murdered for it. So, give it a fecking rest. Jew haters unite, huh? |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 30, 2023 16:08:47 GMT
Oh, like there are plenty of real victims and it ain't you, there are over a thousand Israelis and tens of thousands of Palestinians. Who have had their land stolen and murdered for it. So, give it a fecking rest. Jew haters unite, huh? You still ain't a victim. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2023 16:11:07 GMT
You still ain't a victim. Thanks for the confirmation, and in less than a minute. |
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