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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 21, 2023 16:57:25 GMT
The French government has revamped its rebate and tax incentives for purchasers of BEV and hybrid electric vehicles to favour vehicles made in France and Europe.
For the first time the incentives exclude vehicles from manufacturers whose products involve excessive certain levels of CO2 to manufacture, as a consequence of China's continuing reliance of energy produced from coal.
In addition to Chinese manufacturers, western companies whose own badged EV products are produced in China will be penalised. This includes Renault's Dacia subsidiary and Tesla, whose Model 3 which is produced in Shanghai will be excluded while its Berlin-produced Model Y will qualify.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 21, 2023 17:02:53 GMT
Seems like a good move by the French - about time that anti-dumping measures were taken to prevent the Chinese destroying European jobs.
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 21, 2023 21:11:54 GMT
Yes perhaps other European countries could follow France's lead in this. They are assigning EV's an 'eco-score' based not just on their own characteristics but also on how carbon-intensive the production process is as well as the supply chain from factory to consumer.
The same process could be employed for many if not most manufactured goods, especially those which China is suspected as dumping on the west. Electric vehicles are only the most prominent and obvious example.
There might be a challenge ahead though in weaning consumers off what is often considered as their God-given right to get the best possible deal, no matter what the external consequences.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 21, 2023 21:47:19 GMT
Yes perhaps other European countries could follow France's lead in this. They are assigning EV's an 'eco-score' based not just on their own characteristics but also on how carbon-intensive the production process is as well as the supply chain from factory to consumer. The same process could be employed for many if not most manufactured goods, especially those which China is suspected as dumping on the west. Electric vehicles are only the most prominent and obvious example. There might be a challenge ahead though in weaning consumers off what is often considered as their God-given right to get the best possible deal, no matter what the external consequences. What other economy is even within 75% geared up for it like the Chinese? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 21, 2023 22:15:30 GMT
Yes perhaps other European countries could follow France's lead in this. They are assigning EV's an 'eco-score' based not just on their own characteristics but also on how carbon-intensive the production process is as well as the supply chain from factory to consumer. The same process could be employed for many if not most manufactured goods, especially those which China is suspected as dumping on the west. Electric vehicles are only the most prominent and obvious example. There might be a challenge ahead though in weaning consumers off what is often considered as their God-given right to get the best possible deal, no matter what the external consequences. What other economy is even within 75% geared up for it like the Chinese? Are we talking coal based economies... |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 21, 2023 22:24:09 GMT
What other economy is even within 75% geared up for it like the Chinese? Are we talking coal based economies... I get the irony Red, the fact is though, nobody is geared up as consumer supplier like the Chinese, while we have shot ourselves constantly in the foot. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 21, 2023 22:24:27 GMT
Yes perhaps other European countries could follow France's lead in this. They are assigning EV's an 'eco-score' based not just on their own characteristics but also on how carbon-intensive the production process is as well as the supply chain from factory to consumer. The same process could be employed for many if not most manufactured goods, especially those which China is suspected as dumping on the west. Electric vehicles are only the most prominent and obvious example.
There might be a challenge ahead though in weaning consumers off what is often considered as their God-given right to get the best possible deal, no matter what the external consequences. Yes - a carbon frontier should be erected against the Chinese. Hopefully the damage that China does to the European economy is now clear and politicians are encouraged to respond. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 21, 2023 23:13:23 GMT
Are we talking coal based economies... I get the irony Red, the fact is though, nobody is geared up as consumer supplier like the Chinese, while we have shot ourselves constantly in the foot. I agree, I absolutely agree. The west embracing net zero has been a massive boost for the Chinese coal based economy. It's incredible how naive some people in the west are. Enjoy link there's loads more. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 22, 2023 1:43:46 GMT
Yes perhaps other European countries could follow France's lead in this. They are assigning EV's an 'eco-score' based not just on their own characteristics but also on how carbon-intensive the production process is as well as the supply chain from factory to consumer. The same process could be employed for many if not most manufactured goods, especially those which China is suspected as dumping on the west. Electric vehicles are only the most prominent and obvious example.
There might be a challenge ahead though in weaning consumers off what is often considered as their God-given right to get the best possible deal, no matter what the external consequences. Yes - a carbon frontier should be erected against the Chinese. Hopefully the damage that China does to the European economy is now clear and politicians are encouraged to respond. You call competition, damage? How Marxist of you. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 22, 2023 7:32:05 GMT
Yes - a carbon frontier should be erected against the Chinese. Hopefully the damage that China does to the European economy is now clear and politicians are encouraged to respond. You call competition, damage? How Marxist of you. save the planet - don't buy Chinese goods |
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Post by steppenwolf on Dec 22, 2023 7:53:39 GMT
It's lucky for Germany that the USA don't impose dumping taxes on VW cars - for trading with an undervalued currency.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 22, 2023 8:25:49 GMT
It's lucky for Germany that the USA don't impose dumping taxes on VW cars - for trading with an undervalued currency. Not a lot of point as VW only have a minute part of the market and their sales numbers have been falling for the past couple of decades.. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 22, 2023 8:43:31 GMT
It's lucky for Germany that the USA don't impose dumping taxes on VW cars - for trading with an undervalued currency. Most VWs sold in the US are assembled in Mexico or the US itself and traded in $US. |
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